Merit Weaponskill 2014

Finishing up my recapping my merits and currently re evaluating my merit-able weapons based on practicality. would appreciate your opinions and hopefully bring attention to situations/logic i have missed.

Shijin 0/5 - Not necessary with release of Victory Smite and various adjustments from other option via ws update.

Exenterator - Most have for non REM and Dancer.

Requiescat - Utility for Cor, Sam, Run in Delve. Must have options for BLU/PLD mains.

Resolution - Must have for DRK/WAR/RUN.

Ruinator - Must have for Serious BST, Rampage is meh vs it. option for war.

Upheavel - Nice GA ws but not necessary with Res and Ukko's

Entropy - none necessary, with Res/cata

Stardiver - Top Polearm ws for none Mythics, must have if main, Drakesbane is an accept alt ws, Camlaan torment option too?

Blade: Shun - not needed with Hi and jin.

Shoha - Fudo is king. unlock if main.

realm - unecessary

Shatter - nice for blm brd soloing, but not worth points if short on options

apex arrow - must have for bow non relic sam, otherwise dont bother.

Last Stand - Must have if you pay cor or rng.


so that leaves me at

3/5 Last stand
3/5 Res
3/5 Exen
3/5 ruin
3/5 Requiescat

i dont play bst must but the ws seems necessary so depending on feedback and suggestions for which i must 5/5 (if serous about job). i probably will put 1/5 ruin toss those into last stand or exen or res.

Don't need Exen, use Evis. Shark Bite at high TP.

Didnt really mention this but i have mandau and yochi (also horn/shield)

i assumed Mercy (Rudra if no relic) with SA or TA for aftermath and Exen or Evis when Crit ws is better when the SA/TA are down.

either way interesting, havent seen any Sharkbite sets lately.

so dancer when no exen use sharkbite, if mob is like Tojil or High use Crit evis to take advantage.

my arse

Both Shark Bite and Mandalic Stab do better than Mercy at high TP. I forgot what the cut off is tp-wise, but it was pretty depressing to see.

Mercy is strictly for 100% use if you don't have a moonshade earring with tp bonus on it.

Just wanted to point out that Entropy is still a solid WS for Liberator DRK. Also, I wouldn't bother with Apex unless you're farming Bee for some reason. It's too weak to compete on anything that isn't weak to piercing and too inaccurate to be worthwhile on anything higher than Bee.

At least 1/5 Shoha to 4 step light is pretty great.

With Dimidiation, Resolution isn't even close to necessary for RUN, and with Torcleaver beating the hell out of Resolution for any aptly geared drk, it's even less necessary.

wut ? Unless you're using sc or have poor attack, you should be using resolution.

get out of here ccl!!! :p

resolution comes with an attack penalty already, and suffers from weapon skill accuracy with each additional hit. And constantly gets destroyed by Torcleaver.

Torcleaver shouldn't be beating Reso unless you're underbuffed.

If you are properly buffed, resolution shits all over torcleaver. And Entropy is good to have to get mp back fast for drk. Insurgency is still untouchable with mythic. Stardiver is currently better than drakes even with mythic unfortunately.

Upheaval is best WS for GA main Wars
Conq - Upheaval > King's Justice (post WS update) > Ukkos
At 1000-3000 TP

Mighty Strike situations Reso is still king!

Entropy is great for Liberator Drks or Drks who use scythe and self Skillchain Quietus > Entropy darkness.

Entropy is good just toss 1 merit in it. being able to WS and get mp back from the WS in nice when you need it

Jin is much worse than Shun. Hi > Shun >= Ku > Kamu >= Jin is the order now. Shun is also the only Fusion-based WS for Katana. A Shun into Light will destroy even Hi.

That said, if you're not on it much, you obviously still can get by without it. As Ku will be slightly better unless 5/5 I believe, and Hi is better than both.

Requiescat doesn't beat CDC on anything better than EM with self buffs, even with the metric ***-ton of MND gear RDM gets. CDC got a serious buff for RDM in the way of a lot of DEX gear they never had before. RDM just doesn't have the attack to support requiescat on anything worthwhile. But, I guess you wouldn't be meleeing on RDM on anything very high end, so there's that.

Honestly, for anything you're meleeing on RDM, you're either ripping up fodder (requiescat will probably win) or soloing something tough. Inventory space used to make Req more appealing because it overlapped well with gear you'd be carrying anyway, now CDC is worth gearing if you plan on swish swish.


I haven't messed with them much, Sanguine being the one I could see a real use for, but that limits subjob. Req does great on physically resistant mobs, anyway.

Don't you need Shoha for a step 3 solo SC on SAM?

Agreed, Ukko's does not beat Upheaval outside of some very rare scenarios.

I would like to see where you are getting better numbers on TC than Reso, I have both and at best I see TC only winning at 300% tp (forgive me but I can't bring myself to say 3000 after so long on this game with 300% instead)

I will say at 300% tp I was getting consistant 10k plus where reso stood in the high 9k range, but why waste 3 reso's over 1 TC?

I do see now you were talking about RUN, but does the same go for drk is my question.

RUN can't Torcleaver.... Sooooooo...
He had to have either been talking about PLD or DRK.

He is trolling you guys, awhile back I posted how Reso crushed Torc on DRK. Apparently he once was using old pre-update Reso numbers vs post-update Torc numbers.

@1000 TP Spam (1250 with earring)

Reso - 85% STR WSC 5.5703 fTP (0.85 attack multiplier)
Torc - 80% VIT WSC 5.4375 fTP (other options become better then gorget/belt).

The only time Torc comes close is when your really low on attack which is actually a problem for a job like RUN. DRK has access to more attack buffs then any other job in the game, the corsair attack roll gets even better with a DRK around. DRK's have access to the heaviest attack gear with tons of STR, attack, MA and acc on everything. If a DRK is having attack issues, then so is everyone else and the group should seriously reconsider it's strategy. Also STR is a better mod then VIT due to it giving fSTR and an attack increase. VIT is better then something like MND or CHR, but it's not as good as STR. Finally the above comparisons don't take multi attacks into account, which favor Reso more due to it's fTP copy.

As for RUN, Dimi is too weak to compete with Reso.

1250 fTP Dim, 80% DEX WSC 3.8125 fTP, 4.0125 with belt/gorget (jury is out on optimal gear).

That doesn't come close to post-update Reso even with it's -15% attack penalty. One theory to explain it's weakness is that the Ergon weapon might give a 35% 30% WS bonus similiar to what the other mythic weapons do, which would bring it more in line with post-update Reso.

Yeah I think in RDM's case Reso Req would probably be best due to the fact that your not meleeing on anything remotely dangerous. If your fighting anything where CDC would be superior enough to warrant bringing the gear for it, then nuking would probably be your best option anyway. For BLU on the other hand CDC is amazing, Req has been relegated to CASC use and for special situations.

Entropy is a must for main DRKS; a weapon skill that does decent dmg and caps your mp back up, paired with Catastrophe = infinite MP and HP.

If only.