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By Phoenix.Gameesh 2014-06-21 09:30:02
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I made a rather large list of enemies from which BLU could learn useful spells (not listing spells with Death, Encumberance and/or auras because it would never happen):

Bosses or boss-like:


Where?: Dynamis-Xarcabard
What?:
1) Oblivion Smash (AoE damage) - Unbridled Learning
2) Transfusion (AoE Drain) - Regular spell
3) Mana Storm (AoE Aspir) - Regular spell


Where?: Limbus or Abyssea-Uluguerand
What?:
1) Guided Missile (AoE damage) - Regular spell
2) Discharger (Magic shield effect + Shock spikes) - Regular spell


Where?: Limbus
What?:
1) Chemical Bomb (Conal Elegy and Slow II effects) - Unbridled Learning
2) Nuclear Waste (AoE elemental resistance reduction) - Unbridled Learning


Where?: WKR or Delve.
What?:
1) Static prison (ligntning damage + Paralyze + Shock + Dispel) - Unbridled Learning
2) Reverberating Cry (Lightning damage + Magic Defense down + Magic Evasion Down) - Regular spell


Where?: WKR or Delve.
What?:
1) Firefly Fandango (AoE Paralyze, Flash, Max MP down) - Unbridled Learning
2) Canopierce (AoE damage + Rasp) - Regular spell
3) Potted Plant (AoE damage + Bind and Slow) - Regular spell


Where?: WKR or Delve.
What?:
1) Glassy Nova (AoE ice damage + full dispel + stats down) - Unbridled Learning
2) Polar Roar (AoE ice damage) - Regular spell


Where?: Kamihr Drifts
What?:
1) Calcifying Claw (Single target Petrification + knockback) - Unbridled Learning
2) Divesting Stampede (AoE Magic def down + defense down + knockback) - Regular spell


Where?: Voidwatch (Aydeewa Subterrane)
What?:
1) Atropine Spore (Single target damage + sleep + silence + paralyze) - Unbridled Learning
2) Night Stalker (AoE damage + TP reset) - Regular spell {long recast}


Where?: Voidwatch (Buburimu Peninsula)
What?:
1) Chymous Reek (AoE damage + Stun + Shock) - Unbridled Learning


Where?: Voidwatch (Valkurm Dunes)
What?:
1) Diluvial Wake (Conal water damage + stats down + defense down + magic defense down) - Unbridled Learning
2) Bolt of Perdition (AoE lightning-based damage + knockback + Silence (mute) + Amnesia) - Unbridled Learning


Where?: Voidwatch (Bibiki Bay)
What?:
1) Deep Sea Dirge (Amnesiaga) - Unbridled Learning
2) Blowhole Blast (AoE damage + paralyze) - Regular spell
3) Echolocation (AoE damage + silence) - Regular spell


Where?: Walk of Echoes (#7)
What?:
1) Dark Star (AoE dark damage + Defense down + Magic defense down) - Unbridled Learning


Where?: Walk of Echoes (#13)
What?:
1) Shrieking Gale (AoE damage + full dispel) - Unbridled Learning


Where?: Walk of Echoes (#11)
What?:
1) Yaksha Bliss (Conal damage + attack down + magic attack down) - Regular spell


Where?: Abyssea Tahrongi, Misareaux, Attohwa, Vunkerl, Grauberg, Altepa as well as Walk of Echoes (#15)
What?:
1) Diabolic Claw (Single target 3x physical attack + Magic Defense down) - Regular spell
2) Hellish Crescendo (Paralyzga) - Regular spell
3) Stygian Sphere (Heals HP) - Regular spell


Where?: Al'Taieu
What?:
1) Vitriolic Barrage (AoE damage + poison) - Regular spell
2) Primal Drill (AoE damage + Bind) - Regular spell


Where?: Abyssea Grauberg, Attohwa, Vunkerl, Altepa, Misareaux; as well as Voidwatch and Walk of Echoes (#12)
What?:
1) Scapula Beam (AoE damage) - Regular spell
2) Arm Cannon (AoE fire damage) - Regular spell


Where?: Abyssea Grauberg, Altepa as well as Nyzul Isle.
What?:
1) Homing Missile (Severe damage) - Unbridled Learning
2) Discharge (AoE lightning-based damage + Paralyze) - Regular spell


Where?: Abyssea Uleguerand
What?:
1) Scintillant Lance (Conal light-based magic damage + Amnesia) - Unbridled Learning
2) Rampant Stance (AoE damage + Stun + Bind + Aspir) - Unbridled Learning
3) Damsel Memento (Heals HP + Erase) - Regular Spell


Where?: Several [S] areas (good hunting!)
What?:
1) Wrath of Zeus (AoE lightning-based damage + Silence) - Unbridled Learning
2) Acheron Kick (Conal physical damage) - Unbridled Learning


Where?: Meeble Burrows
What?:
1) Sticky Situation (AoE magical damage + Plague + Slow + Silence) - Unbridled Learning
2) Flesh Syphon (Single target physical damage + absorb attributes) - Regular spell {long recast}


Where?: Several [S] areas as well as Abyssea Tahrongi and Attohwa
What?:
1) Extreme Purgation (AoE status-effect draining move; both negative and positive) - Unbridled Learning
2) Aeolian Void (Conal damage + Silence + Blind) - Regular Spell


Where?: Outer Ra'Kaznar
What?:
No idea which ws's they do. Anyone got a list?

Regular enemies:


Where?: Kamihr Drifts
What?:
1) Zealous Snort (Haste + Magic Defense+ + Counter) - Unbridled Learning
2) Sweeping Gouge (Fan-shaped physical attack + Defense down) - Regular spell


Where?: Outer Ra'Kaznar
What?:
I never fought one; and I can't find weaponskills online. {Please assist}


Where?: Multiple Adoulin areas
What?:
1) Empyreal Glister (AoE light damage + Defense down + Magic defense down + reset TP) - Regular spell


Where?: Multiple Adoulin areas
What?:
1) Phototropic Blessing (Heals HP + Regen + Defense+ + Magic Defense+) - Unbridled Learning
2) Phototropic Wrath (Attack+ + Magic attack+ + Haste + Enlight) - Unbridled Learning
3) Consecration (Single target physical damage + stun) - Regular spell


Where?: Ceizak Battlegrounds (and other areas)
What?:
1) Phlegm Expulsion (AoE Slow + Silence + Amnesia) - Unbridled Learning
2) Slicing Sickle (Single target physical damage + defense down) - Regular spell
3) Raptorial Claw (Single target physical damage + magic defense down) - Regular spell


Where?: Yorcia Weald
What?:
1) Stink Bomb (Magical damage + Blind + Paralyze) - Regular spell
2) Tickling Tendrils (Physical damage + stun) - Regular spell


Where?: Marjami Ravine
What?:
1) Molting Plumage (AoE wind-based damage + Dispel) - Regular spell
2) Pentapeck (Physical damage + Amnesia) - Regular spell {long recast}


Where?: Cirdas Caverns
What?:
1) Enervating Grasp (AoE damage + Paralyze + Bind + Defense down) - Unbridled Learning
2) Orogenic Storm (AoE damage + Silence + Slow + Blind + Evasion down) - Unbridled Learning
3) Metamorphic Blast (Conal attack + sleep) - Regular spell
NOPE! None of those; instead we get this:

4) Subduction (AoE weight) - Regular spell -.-;


Where?: Nyzul Isle and Abyssea-Uluguerand
What?:
1) Artificial Gravity (AoE damage + Gravity) - Regular spell
2) Restoral (heals HP) - Regular spell


Where?: Abyssea-Uluguerand (and several other areas)
What?:
1) Dire Straight (Single target damage) - Regular spell
2) Earthshatter (AoE damage) - Regular spell


Where?: Multiple [S] areas as well as Abyssea and Voidwatch
What?:
1) Summer Breeze (Regain) - Unbridled Learning
2) Autumn Breeze (Heals HP) - Regular spell
3) Cyclonic Turmoil (AoE wind-based damage + knockback + dispel) - Regular spell


Where?: Abyssea-Misareaux or Uluguerand, as well as Sky and other areas
What?:
1) Electrocharge (Single target thunder-based damage) - Regular spell


Where?: Meeble Burrows
What?:

Thrashing Assault (Single target 4x hits damage + Defense down) - Regular spell


Where?: Abyssea-Tahrongi
What?:
1) Corpse Breath (Conal darkness-based damage + Blind) - Regular spell


Where?: Abyssea-Misareaux, Ceizak and other areas
What?:
1) Leeching Current (AoE water-based damage and Drain) - Unbridled Learning
2) Hypnic Lamp (light-based Sleepga) - Regular spell


Where?: Mount Zhayolm and other places
What?:

1) Erratic Flutter (Haste) - Regular spell
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2014-06-21 09:37:38
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There is a camp in Outer Ra'Kaznar that has 6 Iron Giants sleeping in it and they aggro when you walk near. I found that when I got severely lost exploring it a few days ago.

So removing the WoE areas and looking at mobs within the SoA areas this one could certainly still be possible.

Guess we shall have to wait and see.
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By Phoenix.Gameesh 2014-06-21 09:43:17
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Hmm I forgot to add Monoceros and Pixies; I'll add them later.

-EDIT: added. If I think of more enemies that BLU doesn't learn from that has something worthwhile I'll add it.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-06-21 09:57:50
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If we were getting a naraka spell, I'd like to see raksha stance with it fitting into dual wield or triple attack job traits so we can have a half decent phalanx/defense buff that could replace cocoon and fit into existing job traits. I think even a -DT effect if it didn't break the cap would be awesome at this point in game, as long as it lasted 2-3 mins and didn't cost a mountain of MP.
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By Siren.Kyte 2014-06-21 09:58:46
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If one gives Critical Attack Bonus, I'll be happy. I think there's a pretty good chance that we'll see one worth 8 Double Attack points.

As for the Naakual spells- I would give up on them letting us have something from them that isn't linked to Unbridled. We will, without a doubt, see spells from Waktza, Cehuetzi, and Yggdreant for Unbridled and normal spells from Tulfaire, Raaz, and Snapweeds. That leaves room for maybe 5 more.
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2014-06-21 10:03:51
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You forgot the Giga-Gnat from Meeble Burrows.
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Melisseus
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2014-06-21 10:18:08
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There are fairies in Outer Ra'Kaznar as well.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2014-06-21 10:21:38
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Dullahan anf fluterini.
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2014-06-21 10:25:21
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Corpselights, Meebles, think the UFOs we don't have something from.
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By Ragnarok.Presidentobama 2014-06-21 10:44:01
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UFO have a nice one:

But adding mobs you didn't add would be those gold dolls in besieged and abby.

The crab in SoA and abby that hides in shell most of the time.

The big crab that's a NM sometime. Not the delve one

ADL

I would also like to see them add spells from the new Orc, yag, quadav. The one yag sam in past with gear remove, or the quadav with that move to prevent back attacks.

The could also give us a second move from an old mob. like void or abyessa breath. Darkness based.

Or the five former kings with white and blue weapons. they all have unique moves.

LOL, or the balls in Promy, their knock back move, yes please.

And you forgot SANDWORMS!!!! Lol, that be so fun to learn from.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2014-06-21 11:16:48
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As far as mob families go that HAVE TP attacks and that we don't have spells from, I think this is most of them. This obviously doesn't include same-family mob differences.

Cehuetzi (Kumhau)
Yggdreant (Yumcax)
Waktza (Hurkan)

Snapweed
Leafkin
Mantid
Raaz
Yztarg
Botulus
Sandworm
Harpeia
Tulfaires
Orobon
Pteraketos
Corpselight
Naraka
Pet Wyvern
Acrolith
Caturae
Detector
Iron Giant
Marolith
Mimic
Monoceros
Pixie
Gallu
Zilant
Yovra
Receptacle
Meeble
Chariot
Gear
Rampart
Automaton
Biotechnological Weapon
Replica

It is also probably worth noting that just because a mob family is already accounted for doesn't mean it's out of the running.
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By Ragnarok.Presidentobama 2014-06-21 11:18:39
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Chariot HOMING MISSLE!!!!! YES PLEASE!!!!!
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2014-06-21 11:22:42
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Ragnarok.Presidentobama said: »
UFO have a nice one:

But adding mobs you didn't add would be those gold dolls in besieged and abby.

The crab in SoA and abby that hides in shell most of the time.

The big crab that's a NM sometime. Not the delve one

ADL

I would also like to see them add spells from the new Orc, yag, quadav. The one yag sam in past with gear remove, or the quadav with that move to prevent back attacks.

The could also give us a second move from an old mob. like void or abyessa breath. Darkness based.

Or the five former kings with white and blue weapons. they all have unique moves.

LOL, or the balls in Promy, their knock back move, yes please.

And you forgot SANDWORMS!!!! Lol, that be so fun to learn from.

- You talking about an Acrolith? Pretty easy to get those moves actually there's like 5/6 in Salvage you also can learn moves in besieged and since so few people come to it that shouldn't be a problem either.

- If by crab you mean the Uragnite guys we already have moves from that.

- Those crabs with the Barnacles on them aren't just NMs. You can find them in Ralas Waterways.

- An ADL move would be nice and a challenge to get I like that idea. Course it would suck in the end like almost all Unbridled Learning but w/e.

- We already have Fomor moves those NMs aren't their own family.

- The balls in promy wouldn't be hard to get at all but that move would come in handy for needing room to get off a heal.

- There's a ton of NQ sandworms in Abyssia you can learn from.

Skipped over the old beastmen stuff cause I missed the past stuff when it was important and don't know about those.

Thanks Obama!
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-06-21 21:31:33
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waktza attacks

reverberating cry - lightning damage, MDB down, m.eva down
static prison - ligntning damage, para, shock, multi-dispel
brownout - magic damage + blind + slow
spark storm - lightning damage, acc down, m.acc down, TP down
crash thunder - lightning damage + knockback - triggers aura
reverse current - lightning damage + stun








unfortunately the likelihood of seeing any of these besides Crashing Thunder is between -1 and 0%.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2014-06-21 23:47:51
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said: »
Hmmm I'm trying to think of hybrid elementals tp moves

but ugh god adding a great zilant tp move now would be a really bad choice lol
coupled with "you cannot learn it in walk of echoes" and bam, revived the shitty Void walker system lol
I think you have special cases such as the geo af fight where the hybrid elemental "Ancestral Rage" gets entomb and Tenebral Crush. But I'm not really sure if that's standard. I don't recall the normal counterparts getting TP moves.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2014-06-21 23:50:15
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The ones in WoE do, pretty sure ones in Aby do too but it's been so long since I've fought one of those that I don't remember. Spectral Floe etc.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2014-06-21 23:57:40
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I guess it isn't surprising that I haven't seen it, I avoid those things and when I do fight them Req makes it a short fight.

Hmm a library zone... That'd be cool. Do want. Will this guy be there?

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By Leviathan.Draylo 2014-06-22 00:22:31
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Still waiting for Spike Flail
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2014-06-22 00:30:02
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I'm still not sure why SE seems to think that they need to make such crappy UL spells, not only are they limited on how often you can use them but you have to pick from all of them. So even if they made them all amazing, it would have a opportunity cost.

SF would be a great thing to have but I feel that if they did give it to us, they'd gimp it beyond recognition. They'd have to rename it Dull Flail.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-06-22 00:48:08
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Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
I'm still not sure why SE seems to think that they need to make such crappy UL spells, not only are they limited on how often you can use them but you have to pick from all of them. So even if they made them all amazing, it would have a opportunity cost.

SF would be a great thing to have but I feel that if they did give it to us, they'd gimp it beyond recognition. They'd have to rename it Dull Flail.

Spike FAIL
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Just hoping we get something that matches the splendor of Nat. Meditation, Glutinous Dart, and Retinal Glare. Easily the best of the ones we got last time (honorable mentions go to Paralyzing Triad and Embalming Earth, but not quite as good as the other 3).
 
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Would take up too much space to write all of them.


Oh, I want Palling Salvo from Fluturini. We haven't got Bio or Dia yet, may as well start with the less useful one and work our way up. Extra DoT damage wouldn't hurt for some things.
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By Fenrir.Mefuki 2014-06-22 02:51:50
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I'd rather they fix them to serve a purpose than remove them.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mckenzee 2014-06-22 03:28:21
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so much love for the sotn library

but on topic...
the 3 WKR moves will be the moves which trigger aura
waktza = crashing thunder
cehuetzi = glacial tomb (i think?)
yggdreant = uproot

a ton of that stuff falls under unbridled learning, so i'm not sure how realistic it is to expect new stuff from old mobs.

new mobs
snapweed
tulfaire
leafkin
raaz
dullahan

plus, they added yztargs, maroliths and iron giants to new areas.

8 spells + 3 unbridled spells would not suprise me
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By Phoenix.Gameesh 2014-06-22 03:54:40
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Thanks for all the comments, guys! I'll add some more monsters to the list later =)
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I added the following:

- Shadow Lord
- Apian Beast
- Caturae
- Sandworm
- Waktza (added ws's)

Will add more later; but I have to run a few errands now.
More suggestions are always welcome!

Btw, does anyone have a ws list for Flutirini and/or Dullahan?
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