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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-09-02 08:19:01
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
How do you escape debt slavery from a debt based economy?
Don't borrow money and live beyond your means in the first place.

On the topic of slavery:

Here is a good source on other methods of resistance, including escaping. One author estimates that the number of escaped slaves exceeded 100k.

Since there was no actual recordkeeping of the number of escaped slaves, we will never know how many of them actually escaped.

It is very possible that the number of escaped slaves were never recorded to prevent statistics from going between slaves to see that not only is it possible, but highly likely that escape would be successful. The best way to keep people in line is to limit their knowledge of the environment they live in.

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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-09-02 08:24:35
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
How do you escape debt slavery from a debt based economy?
Don't borrow money and live beyond your means in the first place.

On the topic of slavery:

Here is a good source on other methods of resistance, including escaping. One author estimates that the number of escaped slaves exceeded 100k.

Since there was no actual recordkeeping of the number of escaped slaves, we will never know how many of them actually escaped.

It is very possible that the number of escaped slaves were never recorded to prevent statistics from going between slaves to see that not only is it possible, but highly likely that escape would be successful. The best way to keep people in line is to limit their knowledge of the environment they live in.

Even if I don't agree (to an extent that I do and don't agree in part), this is a rather reasonable reply.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-09-02 08:25:14
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Ontario didn't exist until 1867, and prior to that, was part of the Province of Canada from 1791 to 1849.

...

Then again, at the time, (When French settlers in what is now Canada owned 90% of what is currently Ontario, and was originally part of the Province of Quebec) would either return the escaped slaves to their place, beat and maim them, or use them as their own slave labor force.
I guess the freedom center gives out misinformation:

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While some fugitive slaves settled in the cities and towns they reached after entering the North, many enslaved individuals wanted to continue their journey all the way to Canada. Slavery was illegal in Canada and there were no laws in place protecting slave owners or slave catchers. It was by far the safest place a fugitive slave could be. The province of Ontario had the largest population of free slaves, a number estimated at around 17,000. Many of the fugitive slaves entering this area of Canada came through either Ohio or New York.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-09-02 08:33:41
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In other news:

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A middle-aged British mother-of-two and former rock band member has joined jihadists in Syria and wants to behead Christians with a "blunt knife", British media reported.

The reports identified the woman as Sally Jones, 45, from Kent in southeast England, and said she now goes by the name Sakinah Hussain, or Umm Hussain al-Britani.

Security experts estimate that hundreds of Britons have gone to the Middle East to join the Islamic State (IS) militant group, the most brutal to emerge out of Syria's bloody civil war and the most successful.

The well-funded group controls large swathes of Syria and Iraq and has proved adept at using social media to boost its profile, attract recruits and terrify enemies with images of mass executions and battlefield victories.

Last week another female British jihadist reportedly in Syria, known as Khadijah Dare, purportedly tweeted that she wanted to be the first woman to kill a British or US "terrorist".

The Daily Mail and the Sunday Times alleged that Jones, a convert to Islam, travelled to Syria after an online romance with convicted 20-year-old computer hacker Junaid Hussain, and is now based in the IS stronghold of Raqa.

The Sunday Times said she had tweeted last week saying: "You Christians all need beheading with a nice blunt knife and stuck on the railing at raqqa... Come here I'll do it for you!"
British 'jihadist' mum threatens to behead Christians: reports

Can anyone find the name of the band she was in? That's my question.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-09-02 08:37:32
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Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
Ontario didn't exist until 1867....

how many times do we have to go over this?...
Nobody cares about canada!!!

PARKER Edit: translated into canadian

noon cars abooot canda eh
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-09-02 08:40:46
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
In other news:

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A middle-aged British mother-of-two and former rock band member has joined jihadists in Syria and wants to behead Christians with a "blunt knife", British media reported.

The reports identified the woman as Sally Jones, 45, from Kent in southeast England, and said she now goes by the name Sakinah Hussain, or Umm Hussain al-Britani.

Security experts estimate that hundreds of Britons have gone to the Middle East to join the Islamic State (IS) militant group, the most brutal to emerge out of Syria's bloody civil war and the most successful.

The well-funded group controls large swathes of Syria and Iraq and has proved adept at using social media to boost its profile, attract recruits and terrify enemies with images of mass executions and battlefield victories.

Last week another female British jihadist reportedly in Syria, known as Khadijah Dare, purportedly tweeted that she wanted to be the first woman to kill a British or US "terrorist".

The Daily Mail and the Sunday Times alleged that Jones, a convert to Islam, travelled to Syria after an online romance with convicted 20-year-old computer hacker Junaid Hussain, and is now based in the IS stronghold of Raqa.

The Sunday Times said she had tweeted last week saying: "You Christians all need beheading with a nice blunt knife and stuck on the railing at raqqa... Come here I'll do it for you!"
British 'jihadist' mum threatens to behead Christians: reports

Can anyone find the name of the band she was in? That's my question.
Found another source for this:

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Sally Jones: British Jihadi Mother Of Two Joins ISIS, Wants To ‘Behead Christians With A Blunt Knife’
ISIS terrorists

A 45-year-old middle-aged woman is the latest face of terror in Britain after reports of her joining militant group ISIS came to light. Sally Jones, who also happened to be the lead guitarist with a rock band, has joined the ISIS in Syria and has reportedly said that she wishes to behead Christians using a blunt knife. According to the Daily Mail, Jones has now changed her name and has accepted the name Sakinah Hussain. On Twitter, she is known as Umm Hussain al-Britani.


Sally Jones originally hailed from Kent in Southeast England. According to the Sunday Times, Jones was indoctrinated and made to convert to Islam after she met Junaid Hussain, a 20-year-old computer hacker who has also joined ISIS and is currently based out of Raqqa – an ISIS stronghold. Jones is also believed to be with him in Syria. Jones and her husband both have active Twitter accounts which have not been taken down yet. Jones’ twitter account goes by the name @UmmHussain101 while her husbands’ is @AbuHussain102 – the latter is a protected account and you cannot see the tweets in public – at the time of publishing this report.

Sally Jones and her husband Junaid
The Twitter profile pictures of Sally Jones and her husband.

Meanwhile, it was a report by the Sunday Times that talked about a tweet sent by Sally in which she claimed,


“You Christians all need beheading with a nice blunt knife and stuck on the railing at Raqqa… Come here I’ll do it for you!”

However, that tweet is missing from her timeline as of now. It is yet to be confirmed if the account is really hers.

Meanwhile, it is likely that British security agencies would be taking this threat very seriously. More so because of the fact that it was a British man that allegedly beheaded US freelance journalist James Foley. The news of Sally Jones’ jihadi intentions comes close on warning by British security experts that a large number of British citizens have left the country for the Middle East to join the Islamic State.

It is clear that a lot of educated, qualified people have been indoctrinated by the ISIS and its ideology and with each passing day, it is gaining strength.

Also to be noted is the fact that Sally Jones, is in fact, not the first female jihadist to come out of Britain. Another woman who goes by the name of Khadijah Dare is also a Briton and is currently in Syria fighting with the ISIS. She had tweeted a few days ago about her dream to become the first woman to kill a British or US “terrorist.”

Sally Jones adds to the list of several people from western countries who have joined the ISIS. The organization has been wreaking havoc in the war infested areas of Syria and Iraq and now control large swathes of land in the Middle East. Their ultimate aim is to establish an Islamic caliphate across the entire region – and eventually, the globe.
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Edit: She was a part of a 1990's girl's rock band, but still haven't found the name.

Edit 2: The band name was Krunch
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-09-02 08:49:23
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Upping tariffs is the only way the USA is gonna get back into the "making things" game.

Cutting the minimum wage in half would work better!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-09-02 09:02:20
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Altimaomega said: »
Upping tariffs is the only way the USA is gonna get back into the "making things" game.

Cutting the minimum wage in half would work better!
I don't think any politician would want to commit political suicide though.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-09-02 09:03:43
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Upping tariffs is the only way the USA is gonna get back into the "making things" game.

Cutting the minimum wage in half would work better!
I don't think any politician would want to commit political suicide though.
A few have tried. and failed. Instead, they became more popular than ever!
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-09-02 09:06:20
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
How do you escape debt slavery from a debt based economy?
Don't borrow money and live beyond your means in the first place.

On the topic of slavery:

Here is a good source on other methods of resistance, including escaping. One author estimates that the number of escaped slaves exceeded 100k.

Since there was no actual recordkeeping of the number of escaped slaves, we will never know how many of them actually escaped.

It is very possible that the number of escaped slaves were never recorded to prevent statistics from going between slaves to see that not only is it possible, but highly likely that escape would be successful. The best way to keep people in line is to limit their knowledge of the environment they live in.

Dude, if you choose to keep digging, people will continue to hound you mercilessly. Stop posting random crap to try and validate your misstep.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-09-02 09:11:03
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Odin.Jassik said: »
Dude, if you choose to keep digging, people will continue to hound you mercilessly. Stop posting random crap to try and validate your misstep.

stop giving him hope! we're going to hound him mercilessly no matter what!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-09-02 09:15:35
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Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Upping tariffs is the only way the USA is gonna get back into the "making things" game.

Cutting the minimum wage in half would work better!
I don't think any politician would want to commit political suicide though.
A few have tried. and failed. Instead, they became more popular than ever!
I know of better way to get America manufacturing back on track while not affecting foreign trade.

Get ready for it:
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-09-02 09:16:42
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Odin.Jassik said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
How do you escape debt slavery from a debt based economy?
Don't borrow money and live beyond your means in the first place.

On the topic of slavery:

Here is a good source on other methods of resistance, including escaping. One author estimates that the number of escaped slaves exceeded 100k.

Since there was no actual recordkeeping of the number of escaped slaves, we will never know how many of them actually escaped.

It is very possible that the number of escaped slaves were never recorded to prevent statistics from going between slaves to see that not only is it possible, but highly likely that escape would be successful. The best way to keep people in line is to limit their knowledge of the environment they live in.

Dude, if you choose to keep digging, people will continue to hound you mercilessly. Stop posting random crap to try and validate your misstep.
Is that a sign that you finally figured out that your argument is invalid?

They say that the first step of correcting a problem is to acknowledge it exists in the first place....
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-09-02 09:17:22
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Dude, if you choose to keep digging, people will continue to hound you mercilessly. Stop posting random crap to try and validate your misstep.

stop giving him hope! we're going to hound him mercilessly no matter what!
At least Nikolce is honest about it.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-09-02 09:19:36
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
How do you escape debt slavery from a debt based economy?
Don't borrow money and live beyond your means in the first place.

On the topic of slavery:

Here is a good source on other methods of resistance, including escaping. One author estimates that the number of escaped slaves exceeded 100k.

Since there was no actual recordkeeping of the number of escaped slaves, we will never know how many of them actually escaped.

It is very possible that the number of escaped slaves were never recorded to prevent statistics from going between slaves to see that not only is it possible, but highly likely that escape would be successful. The best way to keep people in line is to limit their knowledge of the environment they live in.

Dude, if you choose to keep digging, people will continue to hound you mercilessly. Stop posting random crap to try and validate your misstep.
Is that a sign that you finally figured out that your argument is invalid?

They say that the first step of correcting a problem is to acknowledge it exists in the first place....

It's more like, "move on so you can say something else that's moronic and we can all laugh at you for that". Gotta keep things fresh.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-09-02 09:24:22
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Odin.Jassik said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
How do you escape debt slavery from a debt based economy?
Don't borrow money and live beyond your means in the first place.

On the topic of slavery:

Here is a good source on other methods of resistance, including escaping. One author estimates that the number of escaped slaves exceeded 100k.

Since there was no actual recordkeeping of the number of escaped slaves, we will never know how many of them actually escaped.

It is very possible that the number of escaped slaves were never recorded to prevent statistics from going between slaves to see that not only is it possible, but highly likely that escape would be successful. The best way to keep people in line is to limit their knowledge of the environment they live in.

Dude, if you choose to keep digging, people will continue to hound you mercilessly. Stop posting random crap to try and validate your misstep.
Is that a sign that you finally figured out that your argument is invalid?

They say that the first step of correcting a problem is to acknowledge it exists in the first place....

It's more like, "move on so you can say something else that's moronic and we can all laugh at you for that". Gotta keep things fresh.
Ok, here's something moronic for you.

I completely believe that you have a business degree. I also believe that you know more about businesses than I do.


I even added sarcasm tags for you to realize the stupidity of both statements.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-09-02 09:33:21
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Upping tariffs is the only way the USA is gonna get back into the "making things" game.

Cutting the minimum wage in half would work better!
I don't think any politician would want to commit political suicide though.
A few have tried. and failed. Instead, they became more popular than ever!
I know of better way to get America manufacturing back on track while not affecting foreign trade.

Get ready for it:
The proposed mind blowing idea is actually somewhat sound. It definitely has potential to be good, though you can rest assured, someone is going to *** it up like they did the original intent of the North American Free Trade Agreement (which is why the proposed idea which was already once in effect, got shattered) and history will repeat itself in this fashion, as needs change or arise.

Truthfully, if implemented properly, I'm actually somewhat for this more than I am against.

One of the problems I can already see that needs to be addressed, is that this idea can put unnecessary strain on already strained foreign relationships (the world is as finicky as high school girls looking to be the most popular). There needs to be some kind of immediate and long term benefits that domestic and foreign consumers of American made goods that can be seen and realized.

Obviously quality and production rates have to be high, education, safety, and regulation suited to this endeavor needs to be implemented with due caution, as well as justified compensation that represents the interests of the business owners, and the employees.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-09-02 09:42:25
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Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Upping tariffs is the only way the USA is gonna get back into the "making things" game.

Cutting the minimum wage in half would work better!
I don't think any politician would want to commit political suicide though.
A few have tried. and failed. Instead, they became more popular than ever!
I know of better way to get America manufacturing back on track while not affecting foreign trade.

Get ready for it:
The proposed mind blowing idea is actually somewhat sound. It definitely has potential to be good, though you can rest assured, someone is going to *** it up like they did the original intent of the North American Free Trade Agreement (which is why the proposed idea which was already once in effect, got shattered) and history will repeat itself in this fashion, as needs change or arise.

Truthfully, if implemented properly, I'm actually somewhat for this more than I am against.

One of the problems I can already see that needs to be addressed, is that this idea can put unnecessary strain on already strained foreign relationships (the world is as finicky as high school girls looking to be the most popular). There needs to be some kind of immediate and long term benefits that domestic and foreign consumers of American made goods that can be seen and realized.

Obviously quality and production rates have to be high, education, safety, and regulation suited to this endeavor needs to be implemented with due caution, as well as justified compensation that represents the interests of the business owners, and the employees.
Thanks.

I have a couple of issues with my own idea, of course. One being that, like you said, it would create strained tensions with some of the nations that would have to pay the premium rates. This could be corrected by making a "preferred company list" instead of a "preferred nation list" but that would lead to my second issue: US federal government oversight over foreign companies.

The US should not police foreign companies in US standards. The foreign nations would be responsible for the standards placed on their "domestic companies" business and production practices.

I think my suggestion is a valid method of improving US domestic production while at the same time also strongly suggest to foreign countries to modernize their production quality and standards if they want to sell their products in the US. It helps on multiple fronts while addressing the main issues, which is domestic production and quality of foreign products.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-09-02 09:56:30
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Upping tariffs is the only way the USA is gonna get back into the "making things" game.

Cutting the minimum wage in half would work better!
I don't think any politician would want to commit political suicide though.
A few have tried. and failed. Instead, they became more popular than ever!
I know of better way to get America manufacturing back on track while not affecting foreign trade.

Get ready for it:
The proposed mind blowing idea is actually somewhat sound. It definitely has potential to be good, though you can rest assured, someone is going to *** it up like they did the original intent of the North American Free Trade Agreement (which is why the proposed idea which was already once in effect, got shattered) and history will repeat itself in this fashion, as needs change or arise.

Truthfully, if implemented properly, I'm actually somewhat for this more than I am against.

One of the problems I can already see that needs to be addressed, is that this idea can put unnecessary strain on already strained foreign relationships (the world is as finicky as high school girls looking to be the most popular). There needs to be some kind of immediate and long term benefits that domestic and foreign consumers of American made goods that can be seen and realized.

Obviously quality and production rates have to be high, education, safety, and regulation suited to this endeavor needs to be implemented with due caution, as well as justified compensation that represents the interests of the business owners, and the employees.
Thanks.

I have a couple of issues with my own idea, of course. One being that, like you said, it would create strained tensions with some of the nations that would have to pay the premium rates. This could be corrected by making a "preferred company list" instead of a "preferred nation list" but that would lead to my second issue: US federal government oversight over foreign companies.

The US should not police foreign companies in US standards. The foreign nations would be responsible for the standards placed on their "domestic companies" business and production practices.

I think my suggestion is a valid method of improving US domestic production while at the same time also strongly suggest to foreign countries to modernize their production quality and standards if they want to sell their products in the US. It helps on multiple fronts while addressing the main issues, which is domestic production and quality of foreign products.
I agree that it's a valid method. The unfortunate reality is that it's almost non-viable as a short term solution. The other flipside is that the US would then be put in a position to manufacture goods to the stringent standards other countries have for their domestic policies on said goods. Which the US doesn't typically have a good track record of. (Canada's been falling in this regard as well, and on it's own faults)

The long-term benefits of increased quality production and production rates would potentially help lift the US out of it's domestic and international debts. The real problem lies in the politics of the discussion, and the politics of implementing it in a sound manner that both sides of the divide can rally behind.

This means the Democrats and Republicans both have to come to an agreement in this sense, and for at least one topic, cut the "US vs. Them" mentality ***.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-09-02 10:00:23
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Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
I agree that it's a valid method. The unfortunate reality is that it's almost non-viable as a short term solution. The other flipside is that the US would then be put in a position to manufacture goods to the stringent standards other countries have for their domestic policies on said goods. Which the US doesn't typically have a good track record of. (Canada's been falling in this regard as well, and on it's own faults)

The long-term benefits of increased quality production and production rates would potentially help lift the US out of it's domestic and international debts. The real problem lies in the politics of the discussion, and the politics of implementing it in a sound manner that both sides of the divide can rally behind.

This means the Democrats and Republicans both have to come to an agreement in this sense, and for at least one topic, cut the "US vs. Them" mentality ***.

I don't know if the US standards would have to change to others. Now if there was a "domestic import tariff" executed by Canada and other countries, I would agree with you on that.

I agree with you on all other aspects. Especially the political hurtle that will arise.

That's why we need an actual leader, not another empty suit.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-09-02 10:06:27
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tariffs.... pffft....

BORING!!!
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
tariffs.... pffft....

BORING!!!
There's a bag of money in the corner under that large box. Go grab it.

Don't mind the rope around the bag and tied to that stick proping up the box. That's....um.......to keep the sun out of your eyes.....yeah.....
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The current trend with politics today, particularly in the US, is nothing but empty suits (as a blanket statement, as I do realize some municipal, county, and state politicians actually do their best to represent their constituents) and talking heads to take the heat for lobbyists on both sides.

The only standards that would change to other countries, would be on products being exported, or made exclusively for export. Most of that is already covered by an evolving global economy and economic demand for safer, more benign materials.

An example would be exporting American made food to Canada. Anything that crosses the border would be subject to inspection to make sure it passes Canadian standards of food and health safety.

And vice versa.

The same could be said of international services.

Doctors and other essential servicemen and women from other countries having to take American-based competency and fluency tests to insure the proper people are being hired, and adhering to state and federal minimum standards.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-09-02 10:17:51
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Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
The current trend with politics today, particularly in the US, is nothing but empty suits.

that's exactly what they want you to think...when actually they are all working quite diligently on behalf of their respective contributors...

Tariffs are impossible to get right....
I think the bush era steel tariffs are a good example of this

cram your oranges
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-09-02 10:20:16
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Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
The current trend with politics today, particularly in the US, is nothing but empty suits.

that's exactly what they want you to think...when actually they are all working quite diligently on behalf of their respective contributors...

Tariffs are impossible to get right....
I think the bush era steel tariffs are a good example of this

cram your oranges
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-09-02 10:21:22
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Upping tariffs is the only way the USA is gonna get back into the "making things" game.

Cutting the minimum wage in half would work better!

You're only going half as far as you need. Abolish the minimum wage. Let the free market determine the value of a labor and service force. What's the worst that could happen?
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-09-02 10:23:20
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Odin.Zicdeh said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Upping tariffs is the only way the USA is gonna get back into the "making things" game.

Cutting the minimum wage in half would work better!

You're only going half as far as you need. Abolish the minimum wage. Let the free market determine the value of a labor and service force. What's the worst that could happen?
aside from the obvious shanty towns and sudden up-cropping of plantation like settings, that dabble in slavery?

People having a good time working 'til the day they die on the conveyor belt or face-plant onto a McDonald's clamshell grill.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-09-02 10:26:32
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Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
Odin.Zicdeh said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Upping tariffs is the only way the USA is gonna get back into the "making things" game.

Cutting the minimum wage in half would work better!

You're only going half as far as you need. Abolish the minimum wage. Let the free market determine the value of a labor and service force. What's the worst that could happen?
aside from the obvious shanty towns and sudden up-cropping of plantation like settings, that dabble in slavery?

People having a good time working 'til the day they die on the conveyor belt or face-plant onto a McDonald's clamshell grill.

The market will sort that out though. If people think they're underpaid, they'll just pull themselves up by those bootstraps and find a better opportunity. Quit justifying being lazy.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-09-02 10:28:32
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Odin.Zicdeh said: »
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
Odin.Zicdeh said: »
Shiva.Nikolce said: »
Altimaomega said: »
Upping tariffs is the only way the USA is gonna get back into the "making things" game.

Cutting the minimum wage in half would work better!

You're only going half as far as you need. Abolish the minimum wage. Let the free market determine the value of a labor and service force. What's the worst that could happen?
aside from the obvious shanty towns and sudden up-cropping of plantation like settings, that dabble in slavery?

People having a good time working 'til the day they die on the conveyor belt or face-plant onto a McDonald's clamshell grill.

The market will sort that out though. If people think they're underpaid, they'll just pull themselves up by those bootstraps and find a better opportunity. Quit justifying being lazy.
They would need to find a better opportunity to afford those bootstraps.
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2014-09-02 10:29:01
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Odin.Zicdeh said: »
You're only going half as far as you need. Abolish the minimum wage. Let the free market determine the value of a labor and service force. What's the worst that could happen?

the minimum wage only applies to those that follow the rules in the first place. there are an estimated 3.6 million people already not receiving that wage.

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