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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-09-01 19:27:19
Like most people, Altimaomega is only concerned with what benefits him personally the most. Someone is gonna get dicked over in the system eventually, because power and resources are never distributed evenly or fairly.
Conservatives like to *** about the big bad Gubbmint rigging the deck in favor of thier donors. Ftfy
Fair enough.
Though I find it strange you sing the praises of Russia when in twenty years they've reached a point of Capitalist corruption that took the United States 200 years to reach. It's because they did it better, and faster.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-09-01 19:31:44
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »Like most people, Altimaomega is only concerned with what benefits him personally the most. Someone is gonna get dicked over in the system eventually, because power and resources are never distributed evenly or fairly.
Conservatives like to *** about the big bad Gubbmint rigging the deck in favor of thier donors. Ftfy
Fair enough.
Though I find it strange you sing the praises of Russia when in twenty years they've reached a point of Capitalist corruption that took the United States 200 years to reach. It's because they did it better, faster, stronger. 
It all makes sense now.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-09-01 19:32:01
Gonna have a hard time producing all that food when the Ogallala Aquifer dries up in the 2020's.
Obama - You didn't raise, feed, and milk those cows.
He didn't personally take them away either. Be less stupid. Reading comprehension, do you need it?
Thanks for putting words in my mouth to vindicate a personal attack though. It just demostrates the personal bias everyone has on this current topic. Only the people actually working care about the system. Everyone else just likes to attack those they disagree with by disguising it with faulty implied logic.
Stay classy FFXIAH.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-09-01 19:32:36
For two people who like to regularly criticize the reading comprehension of others, you both really have a knack for missing the point in such a fantastic manner. So now you're changing your tune when faced with the obvious fascism it represents. Bravo, backpedaling like a boss. I'm sorry that sarcasm is lost to the both of you. I figured that it was so blatantly obvious that even you two wouldn't need sarcasm tags to see that.
I figured that the "weed" portion of it would have shown you the sarcasm, but you two have your heads so firmly planted in each other's *** that neither could see what is obviously is in front of you.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-09-01 19:33:52
Gonna have a hard time producing all that food when the Ogallala Aquifer dries up in the 2020's.
Obama - You didn't raise, feed, and milk those cows.
He didn't personally take them away either. Be less stupid. Reading comprehension, do you need it?
Thanks for putting words in my mouth to vindicate a personal attack though. It just demostrates the personal bias everyone has on this current topic. Only the people actually working care about the system. Everyone else just likes to attack those they disagree with by disguising it with faulty implied logic.
Stay classy FFXIAH.
What a coward, you don't even have the strength of a conviction. No wonder why you're a turncoat.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-09-01 19:38:12
Gonna have a hard time producing all that food when the Ogallala Aquifer dries up in the 2020's.
Obama - You didn't raise, feed, and milk those cows.
He didn't personally take them away either. Be less stupid. Reading comprehension, do you need it?
Thanks for putting words in my mouth to vindicate a personal attack though. It just demostrates the personal bias everyone has on this current topic. Only the people actually working care about the system. Everyone else just likes to attack those they disagree with by disguising it with faulty implied logic.
Stay classy FFXIAH. That's what it has basically come down to, people here putting words in your mouth and try to create an argument you never said.
It's generally the liberals of this website that does it the most too, and then they think they are smart for doing that.....
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-09-01 19:42:46
Gonna have a hard time producing all that food when the Ogallala Aquifer dries up in the 2020's.
Obama - You didn't raise, feed, and milk those cows.
He didn't personally take them away either. Be less stupid. Reading comprehension, do you need it?
Thanks for putting words in my mouth to vindicate a personal attack though. It just demostrates the personal bias everyone has on this current topic. Only the people actually working care about the system. Everyone else just likes to attack those they disagree with by disguising it with faulty implied logic.
Stay classy FFXIAH. That's what it has basically come down to, people here putting words in your mouth and try to create an argument you never said.
It's generally the liberals of this website that does it the most too, and then they think they are smart for doing that.....
It's not the reader's responsibility to decipher the writer's delusion. People can only respond to what you wrote. Don't write stupid ***if you don't want people to call it out.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-09-01 19:45:20
The argument made was that the US needs a system that's a blend of capitalism and socialism yet when Russia and China have already been running such a system, china still going a little slower, all you can do is criticize them and complain about thier success.
Russia was capitalistic a long time ago before economic conditions scared thier people into socialism. They've learned from thier history unlike the U.S.
I don't expect many people here to know the history of the Far East though except omg communism and Stalin.
Stalin wasn't even communist or Russian. Even wiki will tell you that.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-09-01 19:48:02
The argument made was that the US needs a system that's a blend of capitalism and socialism yet when Russia and China have already been running such a system, china still going a little slower, all you can do is criticize them and complain about thier success.
Russia was capitalistic a long time ago before economic conditions scared thier people into socialism. They've learned from thier history unlike the U.S.
I don't expect many people here to know the history of the Far East though except omg communism and Stalin.
Stalin wasn't even communist or Russian. Even wiki will tell you that.
Better dead than red. *** Communist scum.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2014-09-01 19:48:31
Gonna have a hard time producing all that food when the Ogallala Aquifer dries up in the 2020's.
Obama - You didn't raise, feed, and milk those cows.
He didn't personally take them away either. Be less stupid. Reading comprehension, do you need it?
Thanks for putting words in my mouth to vindicate a personal attack though. It just demostrates the personal bias everyone has on this current topic. Only the people actually working care about the system. Everyone else just likes to attack those they disagree with by disguising it with faulty implied logic.
Stay classy FFXIAH. That's what it has basically come down to, people here putting words in your mouth and try to create an argument you never said.
It's generally the liberals of this website that does it the most too, and then they think they are smart for doing that..... What's funny is they continue to demonstrate this with more name calling and insinuations.
It's a mob mentality really.
Contradicts thier claim to empathy.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-09-01 19:53:31
All I'm saying is McCarthyism was a good idea. 3 John Wayne Movies a year and no rights for Blacks. And all the world asked was to be balanced on the razor's edge of nuclear Armageddon.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-09-01 19:54:43
And I said stop importing food from overseas and this problem would solve itself. Then you said "but I don't like corn". need I repeat myself over and over. or can you learn to read.
Who do you think is importing food? Do you think the government is doing it? News flash, companies do it because it's PROFITABLE. So you're advocating stripping choice for producers and consumers in order to create a larger domestic demand for foodstuffs. Though, there's plenty of markets where the US cannot produce them at a competitive price, so you'd be using protectionist tariffs in order to offset the price difference, effectively imposing unfair restrictions on companies that depend on importing foodstuffs.
I'm in favor of protectionist policies, but it sure isn't a very business friendly way to address the issue. Wouldn't the "conservative" line be to cut the farmers off the *** and let them figure out a way to make a profit, since that's the only way to get welfare people off their ***, right?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-09-01 19:54:45
Gonna have a hard time producing all that food when the Ogallala Aquifer dries up in the 2020's.
Obama - You didn't raise, feed, and milk those cows.
He didn't personally take them away either. Be less stupid. Reading comprehension, do you need it?
Thanks for putting words in my mouth to vindicate a personal attack though. It just demostrates the personal bias everyone has on this current topic. Only the people actually working care about the system. Everyone else just likes to attack those they disagree with by disguising it with faulty implied logic.
Stay classy FFXIAH. That's what it has basically come down to, people here putting words in your mouth and try to create an argument you never said.
It's generally the liberals of this website that does it the most too, and then they think they are smart for doing that.....
It's not the reader's responsibility to decipher the writer's delusion. People can only respond to what you wrote. Don't write stupid ***if you don't want people to call it out. It's not the writer's fault for the reader's own assumptions.
I could say the earth is round like a cookie and you would yell at me for making the argument that the earth is flat and call names for saying that, which I obviously said the earth is round.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-09-01 19:58:49
I'm sorry that sarcasm is lost to the both of you. I figured that it was so blatantly obvious that even you two wouldn't need sarcasm tags to see that.
I figured that the "weed" portion of it would have shown you the sarcasm, but you two have your heads so firmly planted in each other's *** that neither could see what is obviously is in front of you. Have you ever entertained the notion that maybe you're just really bad at sarcasm? Not that I believe you that it was since it's clear that the obvious contradiction in Altima's arguments still seem to be quite elusive to a few here.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-09-01 19:59:46
Gonna have a hard time producing all that food when the Ogallala Aquifer dries up in the 2020's.
Obama - You didn't raise, feed, and milk those cows.
He didn't personally take them away either. Be less stupid. Reading comprehension, do you need it?
Thanks for putting words in my mouth to vindicate a personal attack though. It just demostrates the personal bias everyone has on this current topic. Only the people actually working care about the system. Everyone else just likes to attack those they disagree with by disguising it with faulty implied logic.
Stay classy FFXIAH. That's what it has basically come down to, people here putting words in your mouth and try to create an argument you never said.
It's generally the liberals of this website that does it the most too, and then they think they are smart for doing that.....
It's not the reader's responsibility to decipher the writer's delusion. People can only respond to what you wrote. Don't write stupid ***if you don't want people to call it out. It's not the writer's fault for the reader's own assumptions.
I could say the earth is round and you would yell at me for making the argument that the earth is flat and call names for saying that, which I obviously said the earth is round.
Well, I would agrue with you if you failed to present any evidence and reasons. Your typical debate format is:
KN: <Say Something stupid.>
NE1: <Points out that you said something stupid.>
KN: <kwit puttni' werds in mouth pls stupid libtard.>
<END OF LINE>
Start explaining yourself more diligently, if you feel people missed your point, explain your point. Don't just handwave it and expect everyone to just assume you've delivered a sufficient rebuttal.
If you don't feel it's worth the effort, get the *** over yourself then.
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By Altimaomega 2014-09-01 19:59:53
All I'm saying is McCarthyism was a good idea. 3 John Wayne Movies a year and no rights for Blacks. And all the world asked was to be balanced on the razor's edge of nuclear Armageddon.
Its not cool to talk ***about John Wayne. Chuck Norris's only fear.
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By Altimaomega 2014-09-01 20:03:54
And I said stop importing food from overseas and this problem would solve itself. Then you said "but I don't like corn". need I repeat myself over and over. or can you learn to read.
Who do you think is importing food? Do you think the government is doing it? News flash, companies do it because it's PROFITABLE. So you're advocating stripping choice for producers and consumers in order to create a larger domestic demand for foodstuffs. Though, there's plenty of markets where the US cannot produce them at a competitive price, so you'd be using protectionist tariffs in order to offset the price difference, effectively imposing unfair restrictions on companies that depend on importing foodstuffs.
I'm in favor of protectionist policies, but it sure isn't a very business friendly way to address the issue. Wouldn't the "conservative" line be to cut the farmers off the *** and let them figure out a way to make a profit, since that's the only way to get welfare people off their ***, right?
The true Conservative line would be to do both. What you said in your first paragraph is exactly what I have been saying, only we wouldn't be "stripping choice for producers and consumers" we would be making a larger market the USA could fill.
By Altimaomega 2014-09-01 20:05:27
Gonna have a hard time producing all that food when the Ogallala Aquifer dries up in the 2020's.
Obama - You didn't raise, feed, and milk those cows.
He didn't personally take them away either. Be less stupid. Reading comprehension, do you need it?
Thanks for putting words in my mouth to vindicate a personal attack though. It just demostrates the personal bias everyone has on this current topic. Only the people actually working care about the system. Everyone else just likes to attack those they disagree with by disguising it with faulty implied logic.
Stay classy FFXIAH. That's what it has basically come down to, people here putting words in your mouth and try to create an argument you never said.
It's generally the liberals of this website that does it the most too, and then they think they are smart for doing that.....
It's not the reader's responsibility to decipher the writer's delusion. People can only respond to what you wrote. Don't write stupid ***if you don't want people to call it out. It's not the writer's fault for the reader's own assumptions.
I could say the earth is round like a cookie and you would yell at me for making the argument that the earth is flat and call names for saying that, which I obviously said the earth is round.
Perfect analogy of every one of these people we are always arguing with.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-09-01 20:06:35
And I said stop importing food from overseas and this problem would solve itself. Then you said "but I don't like corn". need I repeat myself over and over. or can you learn to read.
Who do you think is importing food? Do you think the government is doing it? News flash, companies do it because it's PROFITABLE. So you're advocating stripping choice for producers and consumers in order to create a larger domestic demand for foodstuffs. Though, there's plenty of markets where the US cannot produce them at a competitive price, so you'd be using protectionist tariffs in order to offset the price difference, effectively imposing unfair restrictions on companies that depend on importing foodstuffs.
I'm in favor of protectionist policies, but it sure isn't a very business friendly way to address the issue. Wouldn't the "conservative" line be to cut the farmers off the *** and let them figure out a way to make a profit, since that's the only way to get welfare people off their ***, right?
The true Conservative line would be to do both. What you said in your first paragraph is exactly what I have been saying, only we wouldn't be "stripping choice for producers and consumers" we would be making a larger market the USA could fill.
By imposing restrictions on importing goods...
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2014-09-01 20:07:16
All I'm saying is McCarthyism was a good idea. 3 John Wayne Movies a year and no rights for Blacks. And all the world asked was to be balanced on the razor's edge of nuclear Armageddon.
Its not cool to talk ***about John Wayne. Chuck Norris's only fear.
I wasn't really talking ***. John Wayne > Chuck Norris any day. But it was funny that he seemed to be the only actor working in those years.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-09-01 20:14:09
John Wayne.
Back when real men were comfortable wearing various colors of clothing most men today think is "sissy".
One of his favorites was supposedly a shade of pink.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-09-01 20:17:31
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »John Wayne.
Back when real men were comfortable wearing various colors of clothing most men today think is "sissy".
One of his favorites was supposedly a shade of pink.
I think it's called "salmon". A nice manly name for pink.
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2014-09-01 20:20:13
Might be the reason RUN AF is "salmon" colored to some people.
By Altimaomega 2014-09-01 20:23:35
Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »John Wayne.
Back when real men were comfortable wearing various colors of clothing most men today think is "sissy".
One of his favorites was supposedly a shade of pink.
Actually 100yrs ago about the time he would have been a child, pink was the color for boys and blue was the girls color.
By Altimaomega 2014-09-01 20:25:39
And I said stop importing food from overseas and this problem would solve itself. Then you said "but I don't like corn". need I repeat myself over and over. or can you learn to read.
Who do you think is importing food? Do you think the government is doing it? News flash, companies do it because it's PROFITABLE. So you're advocating stripping choice for producers and consumers in order to create a larger domestic demand for foodstuffs. Though, there's plenty of markets where the US cannot produce them at a competitive price, so you'd be using protectionist tariffs in order to offset the price difference, effectively imposing unfair restrictions on companies that depend on importing foodstuffs.
I'm in favor of protectionist policies, but it sure isn't a very business friendly way to address the issue. Wouldn't the "conservative" line be to cut the farmers off the *** and let them figure out a way to make a profit, since that's the only way to get welfare people off their ***, right?
The true Conservative line would be to do both. What you said in your first paragraph is exactly what I have been saying, only we wouldn't be "stripping choice for producers and consumers" we would be making a larger market the USA could fill.
By imposing restrictions on importing goods...
Not restrictions, tax them and tax them hard. No reason overseas products should be cheaper than American made products.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-09-01 20:42:26
And I said stop importing food from overseas and this problem would solve itself. Then you said "but I don't like corn". need I repeat myself over and over. or can you learn to read.
Who do you think is importing food? Do you think the government is doing it? News flash, companies do it because it's PROFITABLE. So you're advocating stripping choice for producers and consumers in order to create a larger domestic demand for foodstuffs. Though, there's plenty of markets where the US cannot produce them at a competitive price, so you'd be using protectionist tariffs in order to offset the price difference, effectively imposing unfair restrictions on companies that depend on importing foodstuffs.
I'm in favor of protectionist policies, but it sure isn't a very business friendly way to address the issue. Wouldn't the "conservative" line be to cut the farmers off the *** and let them figure out a way to make a profit, since that's the only way to get welfare people off their ***, right?
The true Conservative line would be to do both. What you said in your first paragraph is exactly what I have been saying, only we wouldn't be "stripping choice for producers and consumers" we would be making a larger market the USA could fill.
By imposing restrictions on importing goods...
Not restrictions, tax them and tax them hard. No reason overseas products should be cheaper than American made products.
Taxation is a restriction, bubba. That's what the 1% have been arguing for decades.
Edit: would that also apply to companies that have moved their operations off-shore to evade income taxes? Because, I would be greatly in favor of that.
By Altimaomega 2014-09-01 20:47:50
And I said stop importing food from overseas and this problem would solve itself. Then you said "but I don't like corn". need I repeat myself over and over. or can you learn to read.
Who do you think is importing food? Do you think the government is doing it? News flash, companies do it because it's PROFITABLE. So you're advocating stripping choice for producers and consumers in order to create a larger domestic demand for foodstuffs. Though, there's plenty of markets where the US cannot produce them at a competitive price, so you'd be using protectionist tariffs in order to offset the price difference, effectively imposing unfair restrictions on companies that depend on importing foodstuffs.
I'm in favor of protectionist policies, but it sure isn't a very business friendly way to address the issue. Wouldn't the "conservative" line be to cut the farmers off the *** and let them figure out a way to make a profit, since that's the only way to get welfare people off their ***, right?
The true Conservative line would be to do both. What you said in your first paragraph is exactly what I have been saying, only we wouldn't be "stripping choice for producers and consumers" we would be making a larger market the USA could fill.
By imposing restrictions on importing goods...
Not restrictions, tax them and tax them hard. No reason overseas products should be cheaper than American made products.
Taxation is a restriction, bubba. That's what the 1% have been arguing for decades.
And I'm such a huge fan of the 1% club. SARCASM
Perhaps if you would stop lumping me into the 1% fan club, I'll stop calling you a dirty liberal.
Edit for your edit: America needs to start looking out for Americans, screw the rest of the world.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-09-01 20:48:58
And I said stop importing food from overseas and this problem would solve itself. Then you said "but I don't like corn". need I repeat myself over and over. or can you learn to read.
Who do you think is importing food? Do you think the government is doing it? News flash, companies do it because it's PROFITABLE. So you're advocating stripping choice for producers and consumers in order to create a larger domestic demand for foodstuffs. Though, there's plenty of markets where the US cannot produce them at a competitive price, so you'd be using protectionist tariffs in order to offset the price difference, effectively imposing unfair restrictions on companies that depend on importing foodstuffs.
I'm in favor of protectionist policies, but it sure isn't a very business friendly way to address the issue. Wouldn't the "conservative" line be to cut the farmers off the *** and let them figure out a way to make a profit, since that's the only way to get welfare people off their ***, right?
The true Conservative line would be to do both. What you said in your first paragraph is exactly what I have been saying, only we wouldn't be "stripping choice for producers and consumers" we would be making a larger market the USA could fill.
By imposing restrictions on importing goods...
Not restrictions, tax them and tax them hard. No reason overseas products should be cheaper than American made products.
Taxation is a restriction, bubba. That's what the 1% have been arguing for decades.
And I'm such a huge fan of the 1% club. SARCASM
Perhaps if you would stop lumping me into the 1% fan club, I'll stop calling you a dirty liberal.
No dice, as long as you fanboy the teaparty, you're a 1% fanclub subscriber.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2014-09-01 20:55:39
Not restrictions, tax them and tax them hard. No reason overseas products should be cheaper than American made products.
Mmmm...You've never had to import anything from overseas, have you? So, because you have no connection to anything outside of the US, everyone else should suffer? Because it's not like there are any first or second generation Americans, right? What are those mythical unicorns?
I have two large pieces of furniture in my house that are older than the United States (fun little tid-bit), and at the time, I had to have my parents help pay for freight and tariff fees for both sides of the pond, which came out to be $3,600. Not going to touch on estate tax for cross-borders inheritances, or as it was before 2009.
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By Jetackuu 2014-09-01 21:08:52
What is a neocon by your definition?
I try not to make a habbit of repeating myself time and time again over the course of months, go backread.
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