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Chick-Fil-A Scandal v2.0 with Firefox CEO
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-04-05 11:17:30
Standards that are laudable when you want to oust Barack Obama but that we should totally ignore when someone else wants to oust Brendan Eich.
Hypocrite. Standards that are laudable when you want to oust Brendan Eich (and anyone else you disagree with) but that we should totally ignore when somebody else wants to oust Barack Obama.
Hypocrite. False. I never wanted to oust Eich. You want to oust somebody else you don't agree with though.
Like the Koch brothers. Or Rush Limbaugh. Or <insert anyone from Fox News>. Or Rupert Murdoch.
That's a bad example, all 3 are not political figures in the capacity of holding office. All except Limbuagh set the corporate culture of their companies. Limbaugh on the other hand can take his show some where else if his stations canned him.
They're not very good examples to the point you're trying to make.
I would suggest you read Ono's main post again.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-04-05 11:19:12
Standards that are laudable when you want to oust Barack Obama but that we should totally ignore when someone else wants to oust Brendan Eich.
Hypocrite. Standards that are laudable when you want to oust Brendan Eich (and anyone else you disagree with) but that we should totally ignore when somebody else wants to oust Barack Obama.
Hypocrite. False. I never wanted to oust Eich. You want to oust somebody else you don't agree with though.
Like the Koch brothers. Or Rush Limbaugh. Or <insert anyone from Fox News>. Or Rupert Murdoch. I do so enjoy when someone else tells me what I think and how I feel. It's just like being Kingnobody or anyone else who lets his chosen political pundits ram their fists up their back. You would rather hold a CEO of a company at a higher standard than you would for the President of the United States.
Or are you going to say that wasn't your point you were making, which then the question is, what is your point?
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-04-05 11:20:22
Aren't we all bigots in heart anyway?
Because anyone who strongly dislikes anyone else can be categorized as a bigot just on the sole fact that they strongly dislike the other person. The "unfairly" part of the definition is open to interpretation and is also by the opposing party's opinion.
So, just for the fact that we all dislike each other makes us all bigots. Well, you could also look at the definition of unfair:
OxfordDictionary said: 1 Not based on or behaving according to the principles of equality and justice:
ex1: at times like these the legal system appears inhuman and unfair
ex2: it would be unfair to blame her for the situation
1.1Not following the rules of a game or sport:
he was sent off for unfair play and then go further down the rabbit hole to equality Quote: The state of being equal, especially in status, rights, or opportunities:
ex1: an organization aiming to promote racial equality and justice
Quote: 1. Just behaviour or treatment:
ex1: a concern for justice, peace, and genuine respect for people
1.1 The quality of being fair and reasonable:
ex1: the justice of his case
1.2The administration of the law or authority in maintaining this: and even futher into the word just:
Quote: 1Based on or behaving according to what is morally right and fair:
ex1: a just and democratic society
ex2: fighting for a just cause
1.1(Of treatment) deserved or appropriate in the circumstances:
ex1: we all get our just deserts
1.2(Of an opinion or appraisal) well founded; justifiable:
ex1: these simplistic approaches have been the subject of just criticism So for an opinion to be just, it should be well founded, or have a basis.
If you don't like someone because they are a Christian, or Muslim, or black, asian; that's not a well founded opinion. Society in the US has generally held that it is not a morally acceptable position to strongly dislike someone simply due to who or what they are; however it is morally acceptable to dislike someone due to actions or activities.
So, just for the fact that we all dislike each other makes us all bigots. The TL;DR version: No, no it doesn't.
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By Hades.Tronitor 2014-04-05 11:20:37
Lol... seriously though, it's A.M. in the states. There's a lot of other things these nerds could be doing instead of poking each-other with non-sharpened sticks over the internet.
By fonewear 2014-04-05 11:20:53
I know how to solve the problems here:
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By fonewear 2014-04-05 11:22:19
Lol... seriously though, it's A.M. in the states. There's a lot of other things these nerds could be doing instead of poking each-other with non-sharpened sticks over the internet.
You must be new here this is how things happen in the P&R thread.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-04-05 11:22:57
Lol... seriously though, it's A.M. in the states. There's a lot of other things these nerds could be doing instead of poking each-other with non-sharpened sticks over the internet.
edit: damn it Fone!
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-04-05 11:24:08
Lol... seriously though, it's A.M. in the states. There's a lot of other things these nerds could be doing instead of poking each-other with non-sharpened sticks over the internet. It's noon, I spent half the morning baking, and I'm waiting for the temperature to rise several more degrees before I go bike 25 miles. I'll try to fit in curing cancer in the meantime, but how about you go away?
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By fonewear 2014-04-05 11:24:24
This discussion is:
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By Hades.Tronitor 2014-04-05 11:24:53
Sometimes watching Ali G makes more sense than being on this forum.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-04-05 11:27:08
Sometimes watching Ali G makes more sense than being on this forum. If you don't like it here, I have a solution for you.
See that "X" on the top right of your screen. I suggest to you to click on it.
By fonewear 2014-04-05 11:27:51
I come here because it is cheaper than taking a political science class. And more entertaining.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-04-05 11:29:22
So for an opinion to be just, it should be well founded, or have a basis. Well, next time you have an opinion, I will just say it isn't justified.
Because guess what? To determine what is justified or not is (gasp!) an opinion!
So, point still stands. Everyone can be considered a bigot just on opinion of hatred.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-04-05 11:31:31
You would rather hold a CEO of a company at a higher standard than you would for the President of the United States.
Or are you going to say that wasn't your point you were making, which then the question is, what is your point? When did anything I have written here imply that I was holding Brendan Eich up to any standard? You need to review what I've said because my opinion has consistently been that he should be given some leniency and his politics, however much they irk me, are not a fixed position. I never called for him to lose his job; quite the opposite.
You may be confused, though, because I have repeatedly stated that Mozilla both should have vetted him better (for the sake of their own company image) and has the right to fire him -- or "request his resignation" -- if they feel he hurts the company.
And I've been critical of Barack Obama without calling for his beheading since before he was elected. I don't know how many times I can repeat that before it penetrates your skull.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-04-05 11:32:38
Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »Although, I am glad you're doing so because hopefully a few people will see this and maybe come to realize they've been doing the same very consistently. 30 seconds of logic and contemplation instead of parroting what someone with a vested interest in using and abusing you would turn the partisanship in this country on its ear as the masses rise up to crucify the puppetmasters.
My point still stands about respecting other people's opinions. Not respecting others'; opinions and discounting them as garbage is plain disrespectful and tactless. And I have no problem calling you or anyone else a bigoted *** for doing such.
So you are disrespecting and discounting as garbage the opinion that people's opinions can be not respected and discounted as garbage, and then raising the ante by calling someone that does it a bigoted ***?
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-04-05 11:34:32
So for an opinion to be just, it should be well founded, or have a basis. Well, next time you have an opinion, I will just say it isn't justified.
Because guess what? To determine what is justified or not is (gasp!) an opinion!
So, point still stands. Everyone can be considered a bigot just on opinion of hatred.
Or you could actually read the rest of the post.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2014-04-05 11:51:42
Standards that are laudable when you want to oust Barack Obama but that we should totally ignore when someone else wants to oust Brendan Eich.
Hypocrite.
Woosh!
I was pointing out the hypocrisy and double standard with a bit of sarcasm. It went zinging right past you apparently. So no interest in canning the Chief Executive of the United States over running an Antigay Campaign but you want to oust The Chief Executive of a corporation that made a donation to an Antigay Campaign?
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-04-05 11:59:12
a.) I was responding to Kingnobody's comment, not yours.
b.) I just answered the question you posed. It's on this very page.
Are you illiterate or are you really this interested in proving that you never read any response made to your questions?
By Darkalenia 2014-04-05 12:03:14
I just had 2 of these:
Yum!
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2014-04-05 12:11:04
Yeah, this thread has run it's course.
/ma "Doom" <thread>
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OkCupid protests Firefox over CEO's anti-same-sex marriage donation
Quote: CNN) -- Dating site OkCupid is calling for its members to ditch Firefox and use another browser to search for love. The company is protesting Mozilla's new CEO, Brendan Eich, who supported an anti-same-sex marriage campaign. Firefox is owned by Mozilla.
When OkCupid members navigate to the site on a Firefox browser, they are met with a message encouraging them to use an alternative browser to access the site, including Google Chrome, Opera, Safari and the amusingly misspelled Internet Exploder.
"Those who seek to deny love and instead enforce misery, shame and frustration are our enemies, and we wish them nothing but failure," reads the message.
The page points out that 8% of the matches made on OkCupid are between same-sex couples.
Last week, Mozilla promoted Eich, a longtime employee who was previously the company's chief technology officer, to the position of CEO. The move prompted renewed outrage by third-party developers and employees. Eich donated $1,000 to support Propostion 8 in 2008. The California ballot initiative sought to ban same-sex marriage in the state. The donation was made public in 2012 but Eich held onto his job.
After the announcement of Eich's promotion, app development company Rarebit announced it had pulled its apps from Firefox. "As a married gay couple who are co-founders of this venture, we have chosen to boycott all Mozilla projects," said founder Hampton Catlin in an open letter to the company.
Various Mozilla employees have also spoken up about the promotion, taking to Twitter to openly share their disappointment with Eich's politics. Some have come together and publicly called for Eich to step down.
Eich posted a blog on his personal site last week addressing the backlash. He outlined his plan to support LGBT-friendly policies at Mozilla and expressed "sorrow at having caused pain."
"I am committed to ensuring that Mozilla is, and will remain, a place that includes and supports everyone," he said.
The apology hasn't satisfied everyone, and the backlash continues to grow one week later. OkCupid is one of the most high-profile companies to take a stand against Eich's appointment.
The letter on the OkCupid home page is a bold move. However, it is not actually blocking Firefox users from using OkCupid. At the bottom of the page is a link to continue on to the site.
"Mozilla supports equality for all, including marriage equality for LGBT couples. No matter who you are or who you love, everyone deserves the same rights and to be treated equally," said a Mozilla spokesperson in a statement. "OK cupid never reached out to us to let us know of their intentions, nor to confirm facts."
Dan Cathy move over! This is a completely different issue, one that I don't support. The man donated money prior to being CEO for the company and company money wasn't used for the donation.
I never really used Mozilla Firefox anyways. I always found it a memory hog, prefer Google Chrome.
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