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Just did an AA run and we had 2 geo's. I found Geo not so useful in there unless dematerialize was up. Any thoughts on this or should I go with a different job to def-down like drg?
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DRG/nin works wonders when I did it on geo the luopan was getting owned I started to think just indi in range on me and cast the luopan out on range dd or casters/healers. Others found it not a issue but I was just burning mp maybe I need a better conserve mp set ...
A GEO can be useful, particularly on BC's where magic damage is needed (ie; Stellar Fulcrum against Kam'lanaut's pets). There are some contributing factors though to a Luopan's survivabilty: Using Geomancer Mitaines for -10% Luopan PDT and having maxed Geomancy/Handbell skills. Of course the difficulty of the BC is also a factor, especially considering Great Wheel does massive damage on normal mode and above, so you'll be resummoning regardless.
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Wouldn't bring geo at all to AA, DD/nin or rngs as the DD & whm + brd. Drg works well with angon but w/o a thf to control hate you are most likely spending your time on the floor unless you hold back dps in which it isn't worth being there in the 1st place.
Doing this on normal is fine since you can duo MR TT HM GK easily. Anything above you should re consider your options itchi508 said: » Wouldn't bring geo at all to AA, DD/nin or rngs as the DD & whm + brd. Drg works well with angon but w/o a thf to control hate you are most likely spending your time on the floor unless you hold back dps in which it isn't worth being there in the 1st place. Doing this on normal is fine since you can duo MR TT HM GK easily. Yeah, I've been experimenting with duo'ing myself. We duo'd Elvaan last night as BST + SMN, and it was fun. I've be giving Hume, Mithra and Galka a go soon as well. Taru is no problem solo, which is very cool too. Cerberus.Avalon said: » itchi508 said: » Wouldn't bring geo at all to AA, DD/nin or rngs as the DD & whm + brd. Drg works well with angon but w/o a thf to control hate you are most likely spending your time on the floor unless you hold back dps in which it isn't worth being there in the 1st place. Doing this on normal is fine since you can duo MR TT HM GK easily. Yeah, I've been experimenting with duo'ing myself. We duo'd Elvaan last night as BST + SMN, and it was fun. I've be giving Hume, Mithra and Galka a go soon as well. Taru is no problem solo, which is very cool too. Offline
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Cerberus.Avalon said: » itchi508 said: » Wouldn't bring geo at all to AA, DD/nin or rngs as the DD & whm + brd. Drg works well with angon but w/o a thf to control hate you are most likely spending your time on the floor unless you hold back dps in which it isn't worth being there in the 1st place. Doing this on normal is fine since you can duo MR TT HM GK easily. Yeah, I've been experimenting with duo'ing myself. We duo'd Elvaan last night as BST + SMN, and it was fun. I've be giving Hume, Mithra and Galka a go soon as well. Taru is no problem solo, which is very cool too. itchi508 said: » Cerberus.Avalon said: » itchi508 said: » Wouldn't bring geo at all to AA, DD/nin or rngs as the DD & whm + brd. Drg works well with angon but w/o a thf to control hate you are most likely spending your time on the floor unless you hold back dps in which it isn't worth being there in the 1st place. Doing this on normal is fine since you can duo MR TT HM GK easily. Yeah, I've been experimenting with duo'ing myself. We duo'd Elvaan last night as BST + SMN, and it was fun. I've be giving Hume, Mithra and Galka a go soon as well. Taru is no problem solo, which is very cool too. And what about a setup of blms for taru? How many would be necessary (if viable option) for normal/dificult? Pantafernando said: » itchi508 said: » Cerberus.Avalon said: » itchi508 said: » Wouldn't bring geo at all to AA, DD/nin or rngs as the DD & whm + brd. Drg works well with angon but w/o a thf to control hate you are most likely spending your time on the floor unless you hold back dps in which it isn't worth being there in the 1st place. Doing this on normal is fine since you can duo MR TT HM GK easily. Yeah, I've been experimenting with duo'ing myself. We duo'd Elvaan last night as BST + SMN, and it was fun. I've be giving Hume, Mithra and Galka a go soon as well. Taru is no problem solo, which is very cool too. And what about a setup of blms for taru? How many would be necessary (if viable option) for normal/dificult? You could probably get it done with 2 BLM's, but you wouldn't have access to potent DOT and Regen as you would with SCH, which is what I solo Taru on. And depending on the circumstances, MP might be an issue as well, even with /RDM. Amon Drive could lead to cure bombs which would drain your pool of MP. Offline
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Pantafernando said: » itchi508 said: » Cerberus.Avalon said: » itchi508 said: » Wouldn't bring geo at all to AA, DD/nin or rngs as the DD & whm + brd. Drg works well with angon but w/o a thf to control hate you are most likely spending your time on the floor unless you hold back dps in which it isn't worth being there in the 1st place. Doing this on normal is fine since you can duo MR TT HM GK easily. Yeah, I've been experimenting with duo'ing myself. We duo'd Elvaan last night as BST + SMN, and it was fun. I've be giving Hume, Mithra and Galka a go soon as well. Taru is no problem solo, which is very cool too. And what about a setup of blms for taru? How many would be necessary (if viable option) for normal/dificult? I would sch brd blm. March ballad and regen V will make it easy to keep up shadows and if you happen to eat a Amon you wont need cures with a 70tic regen. I didn't realize this post was in the Geomancer forum. Sorry if I was very off-topic! :o
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Pantafernando said: » itchi508 said: » Cerberus.Avalon said: » itchi508 said: » Wouldn't bring geo at all to AA, DD/nin or rngs as the DD & whm + brd. Drg works well with angon but w/o a thf to control hate you are most likely spending your time on the floor unless you hold back dps in which it isn't worth being there in the 1st place. Doing this on normal is fine since you can duo MR TT HM GK easily. Yeah, I've been experimenting with duo'ing myself. We duo'd Elvaan last night as BST + SMN, and it was fun. I've be giving Hume, Mithra and Galka a go soon as well. Taru is no problem solo, which is very cool too. And what about a setup of blms for taru? How many would be necessary (if viable option) for normal/dificult? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8dPftHCBrY ^--- Mischief soloed it on normal with sch. I guess the answer to your question is very much skill/gear based. Spiraboo said: » Pantafernando said: » itchi508 said: » Cerberus.Avalon said: » itchi508 said: » Wouldn't bring geo at all to AA, DD/nin or rngs as the DD & whm + brd. Drg works well with angon but w/o a thf to control hate you are most likely spending your time on the floor unless you hold back dps in which it isn't worth being there in the 1st place. Doing this on normal is fine since you can duo MR TT HM GK easily. Yeah, I've been experimenting with duo'ing myself. We duo'd Elvaan last night as BST + SMN, and it was fun. I've be giving Hume, Mithra and Galka a go soon as well. Taru is no problem solo, which is very cool too. And what about a setup of blms for taru? How many would be necessary (if viable option) for normal/dificult? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8dPftHCBrY ^--- Mischief soloed it on normal with sch. I guess the answer to your question is very much skill/gear based. ^^ He's been a huge source of inspiration. Offline
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itchi508 said: » Wouldn't bring geo at all to AA, DD/nin or rngs as the DD & whm + brd. Drg works well with angon but w/o a thf to control hate you are most likely spending your time on the floor unless you hold back dps in which it isn't worth being there in the 1st place. Doing this on normal is fine since you can duo MR TT HM GK easily. Anything above you should re consider your options Drg/nin can actually go all out when the mob turns you just high jump/soul jump and dump hate or super jump and shed 99% of your hate. Rinse and repeat using the 119 polearm it was easy as pie even keeping the wyvern up wasn't an issue for me... itchi508 said: » Wouldn't bring geo at all to AA, DD/nin or rngs as the DD & whm + brd. Drg works well with angon but w/o a thf to control hate you are most likely spending your time on the floor unless you hold back dps in which it isn't worth being there in the 1st place. Doing this on normal is fine since you can duo MR TT HM GK easily. Anything above you should re consider your options Sylph.Systematicchaos
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Geo/Nin is pretty good at accuracy swings, +40acc and -40eva with indi-torpor and geo-precision to keep your mp cost low. Outside of that you'd be better of getting angon and the extra damage from drg imo. Drg doesn't put out much damage itself (speaking strictly Upukirex, not Ryunohige) because it has to recast shadows often in most fights, but it's decent. It also allows you to shed hate which is the main appeal. Overall though, I think it gets outdamaged by a DDgeared Pld, so just bring another one of those!
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voiceless said: » itchi508 said: » Cerberus.Avalon said: » itchi508 said: » Wouldn't bring geo at all to AA, DD/nin or rngs as the DD & whm + brd. Drg works well with angon but w/o a thf to control hate you are most likely spending your time on the floor unless you hold back dps in which it isn't worth being there in the 1st place. Doing this on normal is fine since you can duo MR TT HM GK easily. Leviathan.Dwb
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Easiest way I have found, and many others is doing the RNG method.
2 RNGs (with relic if possible) 1 WHM 1 BRD 1 PLD 1 Cor (or RNG) If you have 2-3 relic RNGs hate will not be a problem. If you do NOT have relic rangers, make sure they use the piss out of Decoy Shoot, as well as NOT spamming WS's. I found if RNGs hold TP for only like 300ish, should not have a problem with hate. This works on all but EV. EV is a little diffrent, RNGs need to be with in the Conal damage range to make sure PLD dosnt get 1-shotted. But RNG are squishy... But thats just what myself and LS do. And seems to work :) GL! |
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