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 Asura.Kingnobody
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2013-08-23 11:26:35
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Fenrir.Boomslang said: »
We understand you're upset, but no justification of what you had for breakfast is going to change the fact that you're banned. You could already be level 10 about now if you weren't trolling the forum.
level 20.

Getting to level 10 on this game now takes as long as taking a crap.
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By Fenrir.Boomslang 2013-08-23 11:33:42
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I was factoring in the initial unskippable cutscene, deciding if you're gonna change your race/face/hair, and the fact that you have to get level 3 so you'll have points for an emperor band. If everything was already setup I'd agree 20 but I think 10 is more realistic from initial char creation.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2013-08-23 11:44:25
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Maybe other people in your LS have done something against TOS, and you've been nabbed by association? It wouldn't be the first time.
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By Asura.Draus 2013-08-23 11:48:14
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Maybe they should just stop beating around the bush and tell us what really happened.
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By Lakshmi.Cledant 2013-08-23 11:52:31
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cycojoe79 said: »
15 min ago i was banned from game for no reason. i looked up account status and it's unuseable. So i get the email saying i've been involved in RMT activity and my acount is gone. WTF!

I have been playing for 8 yrs and have never once engaged in RMT activity. now i'm here panicking that all my stuff is poof, gone.

Is there anything i can do to resolve this, or am i just screwed?
If not then goodbye to all those on Bahamut. I had a great time w/ you all.
Everyone knows that you have been selling gil or fishbotting, SE just don't randomly ban someone for RMT activities. GMs gather data/chat logs and other stuff in order to do this.

Now....
You can always come to ff14 and ditch ffxi for good.
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By cycojoe79 2013-08-23 11:59:42
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Guilty till proven innocent it seems to be.

I need gil in order to sell gil. Which i would never do, because i NEED gil.
I hate fishing. It's boring
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2013-08-23 12:24:10
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cycojoe79 said: »
Guilty till proven innocent it seems to be.
Welcome to the internet. Where your rights are nonexistent until YOUR rights are threatened.
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By Squish 2013-08-23 12:40:52
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I think its...

1. You got caught AH Botting and NPCing (or they think you did this)

2. You fishbot(I think probably 50% of the "High End" active players left do this along with flee hacking)

3. You did something and aren't admitting it.

Course of action>>>>call customer service and try to get the account back. IF that fails...quit and never look back.
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By Siren.Knivesz 2013-08-23 12:53:04
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Squish said: »
I think its...

1. You got caught AH Botting and NPCing (or they think you did this)

2. You fishbot(I think probably 50% of the "High End" active players left do this along with flee hacking)

3. You did something and aren't admitting it.

Course of action>>>>call customer service and try to get the account back. IF that fails...quit and never look back.

I'd lean towards number three here. Shouldn't be afraid to admit what it was at this point as an rmt ban is almost guarenteed (if not guarenteed) to be irreversible anyway.
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By Leviathan.Celille 2013-08-23 12:57:15
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »
as far as i know, no RMT ban has ever been reversed, person i mentioned earlier contacted SE every day for a month and got nowhere..

I think I know this guy.
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By Fenrir.Boomslang 2013-08-23 13:01:32
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
cycojoe79 said: »
Guilty till proven innocent it seems to be.
Welcome to the internet. Where your rights are nonexistent until YOUR rights are threatened.

Yeah we're talking about data on a server that you have no legal right to due to your agreement in the ToS. On top of that you're trying to prove some sort of 'innocence' to a group of people who have no authority to resolve your issue. Take your frustration and focus it into doing something productive.

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YOU ACQUIRE NO OWNERSHIP OR PROPERTY RIGHTS IN ANY CHARACTER OR OTHER IN-GAME VIRTUAL GOOD, AND ARE ONLY LICENSED TO USE SUCH CHARACTERS AND ASSETS ASSOCIATED WITH YOUR FINAL FANTASY XI SERVICE ACCOUNT SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS SET FORTH IN THE AGREEMENTS. YOU AGREE THAT YOUR FINAL FANTASY XI SERVICE ACCOUNT AND ANY VIRTUAL GOODS AND CHARACTERS DO NOT HAVE ANY MONETARY VALUE. SQUARE ENIX MAY SUSPEND, TERMINATE, MODIFY, OR DELETE FINAL FANTASY XI SERVICE ACCOUNTS, CHARACTERS, VIRTUAL GOODS, OR THE SERVICE ALTOGETHER, AT ANY TIME FOR ANY REASON OR FOR NO REASON, WITH OR WITHOUT NOTICE OR LIABILITY TO YOU.

1. Call SE.
2. Waste 3 hours on the phone for them to tell them you're SoL
3. Start a new char.

Side note: Could have been 20 and otw to Jeuno by now.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2013-08-23 13:04:00
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Fenrir.Boomslang said: »
stuff....

You misunderstood. I'm saying that, on the interwebz, nobody has any rights. It is only when your "rights" are threatened (and you pitch a fit over it) does anyone....pitch a fit.

In reality, since everyone is an a-hole, nobody has any rights at all.

I wasn't talking about the game in general, just the internet in broad.
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By Fenrir.Boomslang 2013-08-23 13:08:05
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until YOUR rights are threatened.

You're right I missed the last part due to laziness on my end. I'm trying to do too many things at once.

I wasn't providing a counter point, I was just adding to the discussion. I guess I'm saying my comment was in addition not in response.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2013-08-23 13:09:56
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If your account is US, it's a very long path to get through SE's ***and get your account back.

If you're EU, you can get it back by Tuesday.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2013-08-23 13:27:41
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I had a friend who had his mule banned for RMT activity and he absolutely did not engage in such things. They just said the same thing every time he called and tried to have it reversed.
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By Quiznor 2013-08-23 13:29:22
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Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
If your account is US, it's a very long path to get through SE's ***and get your account back.

If you're EU, you can get it back by Tuesday.

XIV on tuesday
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By Cerberus.Elflegolas 2013-08-23 13:41:52
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Quiznor said: »
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
If your account is US, it's a very long path to get through SE's ***and get your account back.

If you're EU, you can get it back by Tuesday.

XIV on tuesday
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By applecrunch 2013-08-23 14:23:11
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Quiznor said: »
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
If your account is US, it's a very long path to get through SE's ***and get your account back.

If you're EU, you can get it back by Tuesday.

XIV on tuesday

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By Shiva.Kewitt 2013-08-23 14:35:06
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I've had to explain myself to GMs 3 different times but never got ban stick.

So, Calling SE is all you can do. Find out why.

But sadly they can delete your character at anytime for any reason. So to bad so sad if nothing can be done.
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By MuerteFairyServer 2013-08-23 16:07:21
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Quiznor said: »
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
If your account is US, it's a very long path to get through SE's ***and get your account back.

If you're EU, you can get it back by Tuesday.

XIV on tuesday

Or rather, Saturday (Tomorrow) if you pre-ordered.
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By Quiznor 2013-08-23 16:15:18
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MuerteFairyServer said: »
Quiznor said: »
Cerberus.Senkyuutai said: »
If your account is US, it's a very long path to get through SE's ***and get your account back.

If you're EU, you can get it back by Tuesday.

XIV on tuesday

Or rather, Saturday (Tomorrow) if you pre-ordered.

12 hours!
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By Lakshmi.Mithradee 2013-08-23 16:40:35
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If they ever ban me I will probably walk away and be reintroduced to reality. See that old friend the sun for a little and possibly get a couple of those RL friend things people are always raving about. This game is a pit that sucks you in and being banned could be a blessing in disguise for you. Yea it sucks and at first you will be angry. One day tho you will find something new to keep you busy. As for me, back to my basement room I go.
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By cycojoe79 2013-08-23 18:37:54
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7 1/2 hrs waiting for CS and all i got was being put on cue 3 seperate time only to reach 1, then told "Oh sorry. theres noone to help you"
then i retry and i'm 24th in line
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By Quiznor 2013-08-23 18:39:37
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cycojoe79 said: »
7 1/2 hrs waiting for CS and all i got was being put on cue 3 seperate time only to reach 1, then told "Oh sorry. theres noone to help you"
then i retry and i'm 24th in line

there are 24 people that play FFXI?
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By Bismarck.Rentwokay 2013-08-23 18:42:26
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cycojoe79 said: »
Guilty till proven innocent it seems to be.
Innocent people don't say this.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2013-08-23 18:46:27
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cycojoe79 said: »
So i cant buy items at sellers asking price even if it's below npc price? then why not ban me when i did it w/ mercury
This has been well known insta ban for a long time.
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By cycojoe79 2013-08-23 18:48:15
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about every other post here is
"C'mon we know you did it" "You're guilty!" "Just Take it cause we all belive you're lying".

Yet only 1 person to say "Hey, I know this suxs and i feel for ya"
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2013-08-23 19:37:56
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Cerberus.Eugene said: »
cycojoe79 said: »
So i cant buy items at sellers asking price even if it's below npc price? then why not ban me when i did it w/ mercury
This has been well known insta ban for a long time.
lol no, I do this all the time. My friends mule actually botted this for almost a year straight constantly and never even got a suspension. I don't see any reason why OP would be lying, I have had a friend who got banned for the same reason(nothing at all).
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By Ophannus 2013-08-23 19:46:12
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Was the OP shouting/yellng in PJ for as long *** time trying to sell the pondweed? Sometimes you'll be banned for yelling/shouting for a very very long time. They'll think it's a bot selling RMT stuff.
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By cycojoe79 2013-08-23 19:51:01
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No, I was in port j for 45 min. Only shouting every 5-10 min. I was watching NXT wrestling atm.
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