Was wondering what kinda alliance setup people are taking into this zone?
I know that most take two parties of three dd, BRD, COR, WHM, but what about the tank party?
Ceizak Delve Fracture Farming Setup. |
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Ceizak Delve fracture farming setup.
Was wondering what kinda alliance setup people are taking into this zone?
I know that most take two parties of three dd, BRD, COR, WHM, but what about the tank party? pld(or twilight sac) x2, thf x2 and whm x2
Most I have been on just have a pld or two and a healer for each pld that just stick with their pld and keep them alive. I have also been to quite a few where the pld grabs everything and runs to the "death corner" near the starting point and throws on twilight and just keeps reraising the whole run to keep the NMs interested. Then the tank party just ends up being another dd party with one poor pld zombie.
If the pld can't grab one of the NMs then someone runs it to the pld death corner and dies. Then once the pld reraises they also reraise and gtfo. Then that NM is just part of the plds death team. My linkshell averages 8-9k per run in Ceizak, 9600 being our best run(no nms) with this setup:
DD DD DD SCH COR BRD DD DD DD SCH COR BRD RDM RDM SACKER PULLERx3(THF,NIN,DNC,BRD) More info please?
We regularly go but only manage an average of 5k in Ceizak. Would like to know what you're doing to get the extra 3-4k. Yes. More info Pls. I am going to start my runs soon and I would like a good setup.
I was in that 9.6k and I still cant explain it. We had 2 D/Cs during the run but our DDs never died.
A pickup isn't gonna get anywhere near 9k. Unless somehow magically the pickup is composed of all uber players. 5-6k for a pickup is what you'll normally get.
A LS filled with all strong players maybe. I usually parse 2-3x the dmg of other pickup DD's, so 6 DD like me and you can get 9k. 1 Dd pt main room, assisted by a rdm and puller. Strongest dd pt north assisted by rdm and 2 pullers. Rdm dia3 and grav2 mob and brd and cors help pull. Our brds have daurd so we have marchx2 and minuet and chaos/fighters from cor. Grab Ionis and pizza/sushi and dds each solo their own mob. (Stack on ladybugs)
Asura.Melbufrauma said: » 1 Dd pt main room, assisted by a rdm and puller. Strongest dd pt north assisted by rdm and 2 pullers. Rdm dia3 and grav2 mob and brd and cors help pull. Our brds have daurd so we have marchx2 and minuet and chaos/fighters from cor. Grab Ionis and pizza/sushi and dds each solo their own mob. (Stack on ladybugs) And you manage to do this in PUG parties? Or is this a full on endgame ls? full on endgame LS. The core of the group is all ls. If we have any pickups, its only a cor or rdm and sacker
Dunno why a full on endgame ls would just farm fodder with the full ls. Should just kill nms and get 10k + and more plasma loot that you can count!
We are currently working on getting ready for nm kills as well as mega boss runs. Have to start small and work up to be fully prepared. Can't just expect to run in guns a blazing. We have a big ls. And have been working on getting everyone geared and ready.
People use more than 1 PLD for ceizak Plasm Farming?.....
Because I knows a PLD who can tank all 5 Morimar NM's with ease and thay gain Massive attack bonuses rather than evasion bonus (note ceizak evasion would do nothing to a PLDs ability to tank it, where as suddenly taking double damage would like in Morimar) I think you need to take a PLD you know well, or tell the ones you find to gear better, no one takes pride in PLD any more and its a shame to find those with Aegis and full af3+1. I do and DO NOT DEVIATE if Ceizak. PLD BRD WHM DD DD BRD/WHM (the brd in this scenario cures the 3 DD) BRD COR SCH DDx3 (both parties) No one dies, and haste is rather easy with a SCH. Morimar, 2 PLD is safer, I also wouldn't try with 1 PLD, unless you know they're amazeballs IE a Galka with Mythic, 99 Aegis and D ring for example ~ Rare to be sure ~ the pld and his Mages really need to be awake, more often than not, a Farm is screwed by the PLD suddenly dieing and not having a twilight set to sack them for rest of fight... Asura.Melbufrauma said: » 1 Dd pt main room, assisted by a rdm and puller. Strongest dd pt north assisted by rdm and 2 pullers. Rdm dia3 and grav2 mob and brd and cors help pull. Our brds have daurd so we have marchx2 and minuet and chaos/fighters from cor. Grab Ionis and pizza/sushi and dds each solo their own mob. (Stack on ladybugs) I like the idea of using RDM, I personally find SCH better than WHM, I'll look into a RDM in future however. In Ceizak 5-6k with a pickup is good..
Meh in the rooms we stand around with our thumbs up our *** half the time it seems... mobs slow to respawn at times. lol
Points will always be better in morimar anyhow. There's no evasion buff and the mobs are closer pulls. 5-6k ciezka pickup could be getting 7-8k in morimar.
Cerberus.Conagh said: » Asura.Melbufrauma said: » 1 Dd pt main room, assisted by a rdm and puller. Strongest dd pt north assisted by rdm and 2 pullers. Rdm dia3 and grav2 mob and brd and cors help pull. Our brds have daurd so we have marchx2 and minuet and chaos/fighters from cor. Grab Ionis and pizza/sushi and dds each solo their own mob. (Stack on ladybugs) This setup uses Sch instead of whm in dd pts, no plds, so tank party is rdm rdm sacker and pullerx3. Rdms split up for faster kills and extra pullers for dd pts so mobs are always flowing. And repops are based on how fast you kill the mobs. The faster you kill. The faster they repop. That is why we use rdms for def-18% and eva-40. Dds in my ls are all capable of soloing their own mobs. With rdm I drop most fracture mobs in 2 Resos Cerberus.Conagh said: » People use more than 1 PLD for ceizak Plasm Farming?..... Because I knows a PLD who can tank all 5 Morimar NM's with ease and thay gain Massive attack bonuses rather than evasion bonus (note ceizak evasion would do nothing to a PLDs ability to tank it, where as suddenly taking double damage would like in Morimar) I think you need to take a PLD you know well, or tell the ones you find to gear better, no one takes pride in PLD any more and its a shame to find those with Aegis and full af3+1. I do and DO NOT DEVIATE if Ceizak. PLD BRD WHM DD DD BRD/WHM (the brd in this scenario cures the 3 DD) BRD COR SCH DDx3 (both parties) No one dies, and haste is rather easy with a SCH. Morimar, 2 PLD is safer, I also wouldn't try with 1 PLD, unless you know they're amazeballs IE a Galka with Mythic, 99 Aegis and D ring for example ~ Rare to be sure ~ the pld and his Mages really need to be awake, more often than not, a Farm is screwed by the PLD suddenly dieing and not having a twilight set to sack them for rest of fight... 1 PLD works in morimar if he can zombie, you get more spot open for pullers with only 1 PLD zombie all 5. Ragnarok.Afania said: » Cerberus.Conagh said: » People use more than 1 PLD for ceizak Plasm Farming?..... Because I knows a PLD who can tank all 5 Morimar NM's with ease and thay gain Massive attack bonuses rather than evasion bonus (note ceizak evasion would do nothing to a PLDs ability to tank it, where as suddenly taking double damage would like in Morimar) I think you need to take a PLD you know well, or tell the ones you find to gear better, no one takes pride in PLD any more and its a shame to find those with Aegis and full af3+1. I do and DO NOT DEVIATE if Ceizak. PLD BRD WHM DD DD BRD/WHM (the brd in this scenario cures the 3 DD) BRD COR SCH DDx3 (both parties) No one dies, and haste is rather easy with a SCH. Morimar, 2 PLD is safer, I also wouldn't try with 1 PLD, unless you know they're amazeballs IE a Galka with Mythic, 99 Aegis and D ring for example ~ Rare to be sure ~ the pld and his Mages really need to be awake, more often than not, a Farm is screwed by the PLD suddenly dieing and not having a twilight set to sack them for rest of fight... 1 PLD works in morimar if he can zombie, you get more spot open for pullers with only 1 PLD zombie all 5. Thats the other option, not a fan of asking a PLD to come sack 5 NM's though. |
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