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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2013-01-04 02:53:26
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http://ktla.com/2013/01/03/sperm-donor-sued-for-child-support/
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TOPEKA, Kan. — A sperm donor is being ordered to pay child support to a couple he helped have a child.

William Marotta says he gave up all legal rights to the little girl.

But under Kansas law, because the couple didn’t use a doctor to get pregnant with Marotta’s sperm, the state says he’s responsible for the monthly child support payments, according to FOX 4.

Marotta met the lesbian couple through a Craigslist ad seeking a sperm donor.

The post made by couple Angela Bauer and Jennifer Schreiner — William Marotta and his wife responded.

“They were a couple. They couldn’t have children by themselves. Its something I could help with,” Marotta told FOX 4.

Marotta says he didn’t receive any payment and signed away any parental rights long before the little girl was born.

But in October 2012, Marotta says the Kansas Department for Children and Family Services informed him he was being ordered to pay $200 a month in support.

According to court documents, the state argues that because the insemination was not performed by a licensed doctor, the sperm donor contract was null and void.

Marotta believes the state’s argument is at least partially politically motivated.

“I think if this was a lesbian couple in southern California I don’t think it would even be an issue right now,” he said.

Marotta says the child’s mothers fully support him and have told the state they are the ones who should be held responsible.

Worst of the articles I've read, but the other ones were pretty TL;DR, so I went with this one



Do you guys think this guy should be responsible?
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By Alexander.Sumo 2013-01-04 02:56:13
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Personally, I think that if all parties agreed that Mr. Marlotta would have nothing to do with the child after conception, and it was all written in a detailed contract, that he should not have to pay.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-01-04 03:29:35
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To clarify further, the couple themselves are not suing the donor for support. The state of Kansas is demanding money from him due to the couple's use of public assistance and a state law that requires them to disclose the name of the father, thus leading the state to him.

More detailed article:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/03/kansas-sperm-donor-law_n_2404170.html

Seems like the lawyer they consulted for the contract (if they actually did consult one) should have warned him about the law.

Edit: Ah, I see that was included in that annoying as *** video. Nevermind.

The guy looks like Tim Robbins.
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2013-01-04 03:55:47
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Alexander.Sumo said: »
Personally, I think that if all parties agreed that Mr. Marlotta would have nothing to do with the child after conception, and it was all written in a detailed contract, that he should not have to pay.

That's pretty much what anyone with a functioning brain would come up with, yeah, heh.

I was expecting a ragebait story but it's basically just government being *** again. I'm disappointed, can't you supply me with some rage?
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2013-01-04 04:34:45
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That's messed up, seriously messed up. Dude has to pay child support and he doesn't even get the experience of a crazy one night stand.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-01-04 04:35:44
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Maybe he did, that's why there was no doctor involved...either way it's a really stupid situation if not even the girls sued him.
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2013-01-04 04:41:58
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Maybe he did, that's why there was no doctor involved...either way it's a really stupid situation if not even the girls sued him.

Yeah sounds like one of them may of "looked the other way", just figured two lezzi's wouldn't exactly entertain a man entering into their relationship. Otherwise yeah ... just goes to show how f*cked up the USA can be sometimes.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-01-04 04:45:05
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It's one thing to accidentally have a child, but it seems really irresponsible to go out of your way to have a child if you don't have the means to support it without public assistance.
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By Bahamut.Genevie 2013-01-04 05:02:38
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Fenrir.Sylow said: »
It's one thing to accidentally have a child, but it seems really irresponsible to go out of your way to have a child if you don't have the means to support it without public assistance.

Hence I support the possibility in the UK of families not receiving further benefit/child benefit for more than 2 children.
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2013-01-04 05:13:04
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I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that maybe they're falling on hard times, but it does raise suspicions about why they never went to an actual medical professional to do this procedure in the first place.
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By Bahamut.Genevie 2013-01-04 05:17:56
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Fenrir.Sylow said: »
It's one thing to accidentally have a child, but it seems really irresponsible to go out of your way to have a child if you don't have the means to support it without public assistance.
This
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-01-04 05:25:33
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Leviathan.Kincard said: »
I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that maybe they're falling on hard times, but it does raise suspicions about why they never went to an actual medical professional to do this procedure in the first place.

$6000 in public assistance, Child was concieved in 2009, Kansas pays $186/month for a single child. Sounds like they've probably been getting benefits all along.
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2013-01-04 05:28:06
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Bahamut.Genevie said: »
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
It's one thing to accidentally have a child, but it seems really irresponsible to go out of your way to have a child if you don't have the means to support it without public assistance.
This

I caught it just fine the first time, thanks. If you didn't notice, they had the child about 3 years ago. Plenty can change in that time frame.

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$6000 in public assistance, Child was concieved in 2009, Kansas pays $186/month for a single child. Sounds like they've probably been getting benefits all along.

Oh, okay then. Sure took them a while to go bother the guy about it, though.

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By Shiva.Vosslerr 2013-01-04 05:33:30
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Its not a surprise. Just taking a drive through Kansas showed me that the state needs help. So many run down houses and businesses. :/
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By Bahamut.Genevie 2013-01-04 05:33:49
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3 years of government support, my comment (all be it quoted) still stands.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-01-04 05:36:56
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Although according to the article they didn't seek out assistance until January 2012? I guess there could be some other sort of assistance I'm missing.
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By Bahamut.Genevie 2013-01-04 05:40:17
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It's a tricky one.I worked on maternity for 12 years and saw plenty of families having lots of children when neither parent worked.They knew they were going to be supported by the state before they conceived.If this case sends alarm bells out then it's a good thing.
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By Shiva.Vosslerr 2013-01-04 05:50:16
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First time applications of government help can usually get a very large sum of cash once a year if they have children and their income is low enough, probably where the amount comes from. Usually a minimum of $1000 here in Texas. Straight cash and never has to be paid back.
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By Asura.Hotsoups 2013-01-04 05:54:21
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Moral of the story is, you shouldn't be bustin' nuts in cups and giving it to Lesbian couples.
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By Shiva.Vosslerr 2013-01-04 05:56:19
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+1 for your avatar Soups lol
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By Ramuh.Scizor 2013-01-04 06:17:32
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Disregard this post. Have a cat.
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By Bahamut.Justthetip 2013-01-04 06:28:03
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Ramuh.Scizor said: »
***situation but he should just pay it and get the couple to give it back to him, no one loses out and everyone is happy
Everyone but the couple is happy lol but this is just another case of government cutting people off. I feel bad for the guy all he wanted to do was help and the women wanted to avoid a ***ton of money and papers for "Someone to approve" of them.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2013-01-04 06:39:23
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Ramuh.Scizor said: »
***situation but he should just pay it and get the couple to give it back to him, no one loses out and everyone is happy

and the state has to pay them 200$ less a month due to them having to claim the support.

i really REALLY REALLY want to say they should get *** jobs and stop leeching off the government. I realise that there are people who need support but nowhere near the quantity that get it. On top of that..... Sylow's post about not having kids you can't afford.

There are thousands of kids put up for adoption who get left to the system every year. If they COULD afford it just *** adopt a kid. Then you're getting a kid AND alleviating another ward of the state. Do it for the economy.
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By Ramuh.Scizor 2013-01-04 06:46:07
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To be honest I skimmed, didn't realise they would have to take a cut. disregard my post.
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By Bahamut.Justthetip 2013-01-04 07:11:27
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Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Ramuh.Scizor said: »
***situation but he should just pay it and get the couple to give it back to him, no one loses out and everyone is happy

and the state has to pay them 200$ less a month due to them having to claim the support.

i really REALLY REALLY want to say they should get *** jobs and stop leeching off the government. I realise that there are people who need support but nowhere near the quantity that get it. On top of that..... Sylow's post about not having kids you can't afford.

There are thousands of kids put up for adoption who get left to the system every year. If they COULD afford it just *** adopt a kid. Then you're getting a kid AND alleviating another ward of the state. Do it for the economy.
The only bad thing about adoption is people feel the kids wont like them. Most of these kids go in and out of homes or are in system for so long they dont think people love them. Not to say all of them but people are scare of that also the fact child services will be in your home almost every month. Adoption im all for but with the way the system is I just wouldn't really trust it.
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Nvm D;
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2013-01-04 07:25:00
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I am STRONGLY against people having children they cannot afford. Therefore, in this case, I agree if they needed public assistance, they shouldn't have had the child.

But based on the concepts that "everyone" (Christian majority sitting on their *** watching American Idol, etc.) feels that every American has a God-given right to children, and furthering this concept by saying that every American has at least a potential legitimate claim to public assistance as needed, I think we can all agree that the terms of the contract to which they agreed is legitimate.

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but it does raise suspicions about why they never went to an actual medical professional to do this procedure in the first place.

Because medical professionals are expensive. If I were in the position of looking to assist a woman in conceiving, even I, with a decent job and health care benefits, would be loathe to approach a fertilization specialist if actual insemination was as easy as coming up with, "Hey, let's go have intercourse."

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Marotta believes the state’s argument is at least partially politically motivated.

“I think if this was a lesbian couple in southern California I don’t think it would even be an issue right now,” he said.

Marotta says the child’s mothers fully support him and have told the state they are the ones who should be held responsible.

QED.
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By Asura.Arkanethered 2013-01-04 07:38:04
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Lets not forget that the cost of adopting an American child is as much of a deterrent as assisted conception would have been if not more.

I agree fully with the statement that people should adopt a child before they spend insane amounts of cash for assisted conception and I think we all can agree that the thousands of dollars it costs to adopt locally is stupidly high. (It's why many couples look outside the US, it's cheaper.)
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By Bismarck.Leneth 2013-01-04 07:43:41
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From what I read and understood I am on the state's side.
People are way too naive when it comes to contracts and if you do not get professional help there it is the same as any rubbish teen myth about how to have sex but not getting pregnant.
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By Asura.Auredant 2013-01-04 07:58:15
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Just deny the couple public assistance. Win win.
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