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By Asura.Saevel 2017-09-11 16:02:40
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Has anyone tried a Farsha + Blurred Shield cheese build? How does it stack up to greataxe and greatsword spam?

It would be a Reikiko sword instead of Axe as Savage is a bit better then Mistral. The problem is TP gain speed, without Hasso or Dual Wield your stuck at 704/1024 haste value (68.75%). Hasso is a 14.2% increase in speed. Now if there's a DNC main present this kinda changes a bit.
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By Bismarck.Firedemon 2017-09-12 14:29:27
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Path A because STR/DEX/ATT.
 
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-09-12 14:43:34
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What path should I do on Argosy Hauberk and why?


Two paths, first is the usual STR / DEX / Atk and the vast majority of people should start here. Once their sets get really good you can look at switching to the STR / Atk / Store TP side to squeeze out more Multi-Attack but that's heavily reliant on what situations you are in.
 
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-09-12 15:28:46
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Is it even better than Sulevans+2 for anything without the store TP?

The body? Why on earth would they be comparable? Sulev is a -DT body, Argosy is a WS set. Also are we discussing the HQ or NQ Argosy set because it changes the weight. The NQ is ok as a stand in but you can get better from good Valorous augments, HQ on the other hand is BiS unless you get obscenely good Valorous augments.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2017-09-12 16:00:52
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Asura.Saevel said: »
DirectX said: »
Is it even better than Sulevans+2 for anything without the store TP?

The body? Why on earth would they be comparable? Sulev is a -DT body, Argosy is a WS set. Also are we discussing the HQ or NQ Argosy set because it changes the weight. The NQ is ok as a stand in but you can get better from good Valorous augments, HQ on the other hand is BiS unless you get obscenely good Valorous augments.


The only time I use Sulevia+2 for weaponskills is:
The weaponskill has hybrid attributes/is multi hit/doesn't have a STR mod. (Basically when I can't use Argosy or the WSDMG on AF+2/3 Body won't do much)
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Skillchain damage becomes more important than overall weaponskill damage. (Light Skillchains on Apex Bats during solo)

I really need to get another Valorous body.
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-09-12 16:46:55
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SC Bonus is only good in very large quantities because it only applies to the SC and not to the WS. The WS on the other hand generates the damage for the SC, so raising the WS damage also raises the SC damage.

10% WSD (just example)

1000 * 1.10 = 1100 WS + 1100 SC

2200 total damage

10% SC Bonus on the other hand

1000 = 1000 WS + 1100 SC

2100 total damage.
 
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-09-12 17:33:11
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DirectX said: »
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DirectX said: »
Is it even better than Sulevans+2 for anything without the store TP?

The body? Why on earth would they be comparable? Sulev is a -DT body, Argosy is a WS set. Also are we discussing the HQ or NQ Argosy set because it changes the weight. The NQ is ok as a stand in but you can get better from good Valorous augments, HQ on the other hand is BiS unless you get obscenely good Valorous augments.
Sule has more accuracy etc. and 1 less Haste (irrelevant?)

NQ Argosy is just a place holder for Reso / STR based WS's with DA / STR / Acc / Atk, under no circumstance should you be TPing in it.

Sule is for a -DT set, there are much better TP bodies. It's decent for Upheaval if you don't have better.
 
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-09-12 17:56:41
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Hmm Arco body is good then, you can put DA on it. Otherwise I'd say merc Valorous or NQ Emicho Body. Flamma +1 body is decent also.
 
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-09-18 09:20:41
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I put together a thread about "Starting Warriors" awhile back. It focused on gear that was easily obtained for newer players without access to high end resources. You can take some ideas from there.

http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/50329/starting-war-gearsets/
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By Odin.Foxmulder 2017-09-19 06:26:56
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You should be doing Omen card runs via shout groups to get your AF +2. It's a great set.
 
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By Taint 2017-09-19 08:29:47
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Work on legs and feet first. You can +3 them
Easily too. You can leech a Kin clear or buy a Kin seal
From a merc. Set your RoE objective that gives you a free Kin seal for your first clear.

I'll be back Sunday if you want some help with a clear. The current omen campaign is awesome don't miss it.
 
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-09-19 09:17:13
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Get feet, legs and body to +2 first, it's cheap and has a low card count requirement. Then work on getting feet to +3 because they are Jesus powerful, after that it's legs and body to +3 as each fill a different role. Legs +3 is great if you don't need Store TP on your legs via augmented odyssean legs. Body +3 is amazing for Upheaval, King's Justice and other high first hit fTP WS's.

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I didn't augment the Argosy yet - is there any point for me to bother?

If you already got Argosy then augment them, it's cheap and they are a solid initial set for Resolution.
 
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By Bismarck.Gippali 2017-09-19 10:11:12
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You are better off making a Minos (Oboro JSE weapon) or getting a T2 Reisen Gaxe. Both can have fairly high ACC values.
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-09-19 10:35:52
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For a starting WAR the Minos is amazing. The upgrade would be reisen gaxe. The Hepatizon Axe is also great but only if your accuracy is already solid, it's more a weapon for non-WAR's to use.

Great Axe is for making SCs that do ridiculous damage. Great Sword sucks for scing and is only useful for spamming resolution. Upheaval is the strongest great axe WS and closes light off Kings Justice or other fragmentation WS. Ukkos is mediocre but can do double light off the first light.
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By Bismarck.Zubuis 2017-09-19 16:58:22
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How much Store TP do I need as a WAR/SAM to hit ideal X-hit?
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-09-19 17:26:15
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Bismarck.Zubuis said: »
How much Store TP do I need as a WAR/SAM to hit ideal X-hit?

How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

Need a lot more information to provide the answer, or search several pages and find all your answers.
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By Asura.Valguard 2017-09-19 17:47:48
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Lots of wood.

Would a Devivifier stack up to other weapons at all if you have 100% DA?
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By Asura.Valguard 2017-09-19 17:58:49
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Bismarck.Zubuis said: »
How much Store TP do I need as a WAR/SAM to hit ideal X-hit?

Hopefully BG's table is up to date right now.

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Tactical_Points

That link should help on how to figure out what you're getting per swing based on your weapon delay. 5-hits are fairly common on Warrior, so you would need enough store tp to get you to 200+ TP per swing. Ideal X-hit varies weapon to weapon. Hence, the more detail needed for anyone to help you. :)
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By Asura.Saevel 2017-09-19 18:23:04
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Would a Devivifier stack up to other weapons at all if you have 100% DA?

The +DA Damage only procs on regular attacks, so attack rounds and retaliation rounds but not during WS and that's where most of your damage comes from. DMG285 is kinda low when other options are DMG300+ (my Agonoshe is DMG323).
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