[dev1138] Bard Job Adjustments

Oh, that would explain why pianissimo never wears off when I do etude on corsairs! >_>
I'm a hardcore bard, yo!

niiiiiice. when i'm casting joke songs before a real event starts at least I can give the whole party prelude and etude.

LOL didn't most of these songs start off AOE?

They act like for most activities people don't sing before the fight even starts and hold them on an NPC conversation, along with the rest of their buffs.

Yes, they did. Then they made them single target, not too long after, they added Pianissimo. Idiots...

No, preludes and etudes were always single target, long before pianissimo, which was nice since the rangers always stood in range of getting ballads out in the woodlands, so, could give him/her hunter's after ballading mages.

I would much rather have been given a job ability that could CONVERT these songs to AOE, in the event you're in a blm party.

I wouldn't call them all joke songs. I usually give the COR AGI etudes and the WHM MND etudes since mp is never an issue anymore.

Please don't give me ballads... please...

is what I tell my brds...


then they look at me... think I'm crazy... and give me ballad.

I hate SE so much for introducing ballad 3 / refresh 2 :| so much hate... :\

/endmyopinionnoonecaresabout

I care


So now you have to choose between giving the whole party agi, or taking the JA delay to single target an ex-single target song so that it casts in the time you just wasted.

On the bright side: If youre in the zero existing events where you would bring a party full of rangers (let alone the universe where you would give said rangers preludes) you can now... i dont know *** this ***lol.


Follow me on this, I think I have it: You COULD have a tardabula brd mule who merits songs instead of Troub/Night Who gives a yoichi rng party enmity down, minuet, and str etude for odin v2 to push it down?


Guys? .....guys?

Pianissimo only takes about a second to go off and there's no delay in casting songs afterwards. So we're looking at 5 seconds each etude instead of 4.

On another note, most RNGs only ask me for minuets.

Min5 Min4 STR etude x2 for ADL. Neat.

Not sure why people are complaining really, I have a ton of times where I can't make full use of my 4 songs as is and a bit of extra STR is certainly preferable to nothing/scherzo/marchwhenddarehastedandembravaedanyway.

Out of boredom, I did some quick testing in Abyssea for etudes:

But they aren't changing how they deteriorate over time right? Cause they might be more useful if that was the case or if they made the caps higher.

They're just as ***as ever. Limited application in ***-tier content like ADL if you recast them quickly and have a 4-song darudabla + the trimmings. That'd be a DEX bonus of +18/+24 (combined +42) for Etude I+II with a 99Gjallarhorn before the 1pt/10s deterioration, average of +30~35 assuming crack timing on recasts. Would be around an average of +40 if you're factoring in +10 from Marches, however you wouldn't be casting those to begin with in these situations. STR Etudes would rarely be worth using on the kind of content you'd be safe to use Etudes on to begin with.

Outside of those factors... yea.

It's too bad, I'd like to see some more varied situations and strategical song use.

Pretty much a worthless update in the eyes of bards that don't have a Daurdabla that are stuck with just 2 songs max.

Suprised at the hate. Having the option of doing AoE STR/DEX+74 (and degrading) under SV is okay with me. In high buff situations with 2 daurdabla bards we start running out of useful things to cast anyway.

Shame about it degrading though :(

10-16-2012 08:19 PM [source]
Okipuit Community Rep		Valefor.Philemon said: » So that Pianissimo adjustment, will it reduce casting time of all songs or just prelude/etude/sirvente/dirge? Hello, Just to clarify, Pianissimo’s effect itself will change, so when you use it, the casting time for all applicable songs will be reduced. This does not apply to only etudes, preludes, Foe Sirvente, and Adventurer’s Dirge mentioned in our most recent test server update.
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10-18-2012 01:30 PM [source]
Okipuit Community Rep		Sylph.Reain said: » Pianissimo will still make songs single target. The change is that when you use Pianissimo to make the song single target it will now half the casting time of that single target song. E.g. If you do AoE march the base casting time is 8 seconds. If you Pianmissimo March one person the base casting time will be 4 seconds. Correct. This Pianissimo adjustment is going to be implemented in the test server update planned for Oct. 26th. We are also going to lower the level that you obtain Pianissimo from 45 to 20. Lakshmi.Saevel said: » Okipuit, Would it be possible for the devs to look at removing the weakening over time of the etudes from BRD? That is mainly the reason their simply not ever used. Wouldn't be much of a buff if it goes away rather quickly. Noted. We'll see if I can get any insight from the development team regarding this mechanic. If we receive an update, we'll be sure to let you know~
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They must plan on barancing it if they do make it a static number. To a static low number of course!