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By Fenrir.Reece 2012-06-25 13:31:11
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Which of these TP sets would provide a better return assuming I'm /SAM and also which one if I'm /WAR



Curious to Sylvan Scarf v Hope Torque.
Bucc v Scout's Belt
Vulcan's /SAM v Aluh /WAR
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-06-25 19:47:27
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Rancor Collar
Scout's
/war
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2012-06-26 00:24:07
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Sylvan's scarf
Buccaneer's
Aluh's /WAR (No more place for /SAM)
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By Cerberus.Maeldiar 2012-06-26 00:37:47
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Only place for rng/sam is with annihilator these days in scenarios where you are spamming coronach while controlling hate. Otherwise your roll is to do damage without holding back and /war is best for it.

And never use a staff /war
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-06-26 08:23:22
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Asura.Vrytreya said: »
Sylvan's scarf
Buccaneer's
Aluh's /WAR (No more place for /SAM)


Why use Scarf over Rancor?

And 4str vs 7ratt 5agi seems to favor Scout's
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2012-06-26 08:37:24
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Cerberus.Maeldiar said: »
Only place for rng/sam is with annihilator these days in scenarios where you are spamming coronach while controlling hate. Otherwise your roll is to do damage without holding back and /war is best for it.

And never use a staff /war
Spamming Coronach...

Now, unless Relic's aftermath works differently from Empy's aftermath, I think there's no purpose of "Spamming" Coronach. You shoot your Coronach with highest TP available to you, then use Last Stand to maximize the damage output until the AM effect goes off. Rinse and repeat.

Cerberus.Taint said: »
Asura.Vrytreya said: »
Sylvan's scarf
Buccaneer's
Aluh's /WAR (No more place for /SAM)


Why use Scarf over Rancor?
Because Rancor was not in the options. Probably it's the best option in paper. But depends on what you fight, if enmity is never an issue and the fight is rather long (so you have more chance to shoot), then Rancor's pulls further. But if it's like Qilin where you only average 9-11 shots per fight (sometimes you can WS more than you do normal shot), then it's just a dice roll.

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And 4str vs 7ratt 5agi seems to favor Scout's
It's about equal, but I'm siding with Buccaneer's because of -enmity.
I personally use Crudelis, however. Buccaneer's has been stored long in my Porter Moogle. Racc was almost never be an issue on the stuff I brought my RNG.
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-06-26 09:07:51
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Asura.Vrytreya said: »
Cerberus.Maeldiar said: »
Only place for rng/sam is with annihilator these days in scenarios where you are spamming coronach while controlling hate. Otherwise your roll is to do damage without holding back and /war is best for it.

And never use a staff /war
Spamming Coronach...

Now, unless Relic's aftermath works differently from Empy's aftermath, I think there's no purpose of "Spamming" Coronach. You shoot your Coronach with highest TP available to you, then use Last Stand to maximize the damage output until the AM effect goes off. Rinse and repeat.

Cerberus.Taint said: »
Asura.Vrytreya said: »
Sylvan's scarf
Buccaneer's
Aluh's /WAR (No more place for /SAM)


Why use Scarf over Rancor?
Because Rancor was not in the options. Probably it's the best option in paper. But depends on what you fight, if enmity is never an issue and the fight is rather long (so you have more chance to shoot), then Rancor's pulls further. But if it's like Qilin where you only average 9-11 shots per fight (sometimes you can WS more than you do normal shot), then it's just a dice roll.

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And 4str vs 7ratt 5agi seems to favor Scout's
It's about equal, but I'm siding with Buccaneer's because of -enmity.
I personally use Crudelis, however. Buccaneer's has been stored long in my Porter Moogle. Racc was almost never be an issue on the stuff I brought my RNG.



Based on the information you provided:

Rancor Collar
Scout's
/war
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2012-06-26 09:37:41
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If that helps you sleep better, sure.
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By Odin.Liela 2012-07-03 16:42:21
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Shameless bump!




Can I get some more opinions on this stuff? Right now I'm at:

Head: Sylvan Gapette +2
Body: Sylvan Caban +2
Hands: Sylvan Glovelettes +1 (obvious and easy fix to get them to +2)
Legs: Sylvan Bragues +2
Feet: Sylvan Bottillons +2
Waist: Buccaneer's Belt
Back: Libeccio Mantle
Neck: Peacock Charm (easy fix to get that to Sylvan Scarf)
Rings: Rajas Ring and Dragon Ring
Ears: Fox Earring and Volley Earring

And feeling gimpy. Honestly, I'm the only person I've ever seen run around in a gimpy old dragon ring and fox earring. Oops. Replacing fox with clearview shouldn't be a problem, but what about volley?

Right now I'm also using a staff and gatta strap, I will be upgrading that to a knife and shield with /war. I'm debating between Oneiros knife and Aluh jambyia. I will use Aluh regardless until I get my grubby paws on Oneiros just because I currently have Aluh and not Oneiros. But I just haven't heard any good arguments for why one is better than the other yet. Some people say the str, att, and crit + are boss on Aluh, some say Oneiros has better crit damage going on. Clue me in? :-(

Now obviously this is just a tp set. WS sets are a whole other issue for other threads.
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By Sylph.Decimus 2012-07-03 16:49:45
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Which ranged weapon are you using? That'd be a good start.
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By Odin.Liela 2012-07-03 16:51:07
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Oh sorry. I'm building both emp gun and bow. I have nothing better to do in-game. xD I'm on Tammuz for the gun, and on Lamprey Lord for Gandiva, but I already have all the fistule discharges and a few bukhis wings, so I'll probably finish the bow first.

Edit: I also feel silly for using Sylvan feet +2 for bow, since it has marksmanship on it but not archery. /blush. Any suggestions would rock my socks!
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By Sylph.Decimus 2012-07-03 16:54:15
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For Gandiva this will work, it's a 5 hit /war w/o food: Swap in a Bellona's ring for Jalzahn's



Edit: I know how stp and everything works, but I don't have a gun so someone else will need to help you with that.

And the reason for Aluh over Oneiros would be Aluh still gives you the 10 str when you don't crit.
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By Odin.Liela 2012-07-03 16:57:03
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Thanks <3 I may have to re-do a fight or something in ToAH to get a Jalzahn's, but that should not be a problem.
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By reaperofsoul 2012-07-03 17:00:19
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afaik they made it like CoP rings where you can change it now... or so i remember
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By Sylph.Decimus 2012-07-03 17:01:13
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They did. I threw away Ulthalam's to get Jalzahn's about 2 months ago I think.
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By Odin.Liela 2012-07-03 17:02:08
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Oh sweet! :D That makes it even easier. Thanks guys <3 I appreciate the help.
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By Carbuncle.Shokox 2012-07-04 00:52:22
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Nothing to do you say!? Build an Annihilator!
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