The Beast Within -- A Guide To Blue Mage

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By Sylph.Gobbo 2015-02-26 17:48:47
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Checked it out, it does. Only difference is, Bolelabunga's bonus is +10% as opposed to +10 HP/tick.
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By Selindrile 2015-02-26 20:35:55
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Sylph.Oraen said: »
Not for CDC, as WSD only applies to the first hit. If you're building sets for THF or DNC, then yes.

Not even completely true for Thf or Dnc, obviously for Rudra's WSD is great, but when using Climactic or SA or TA CritDMG will help your damage equally (if the %s are equal) and will actually help you during the melee rounds as well.

Which would parse better overall if you could only choose one and ws'd at 1200 regardless of whether your force crit was up or not?

That I have no idea.
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By Pantafernando 2015-02-26 20:45:15
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Selindrile said: »
Sylph.Oraen said: »
Not for CDC, as WSD only applies to the first hit. If you're building sets for THF or DNC, then yes.

Not even completely true for Thf or Dnc, obviously for Rudra's WSD is great, but when using Climactic or SA or TA CritDMG will help your damage equally (if the %s are equal) and will actually help you during the melee rounds as well.

Which would parse better overall if you could only choose one and ws'd at 1200 regardless of whether your force crit was up or not?

That I have no idea.

Dex+10.
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By Selindrile 2015-02-26 23:04:36
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Pantafernando said: »
Dex+10.

Yar I said it had to be stats or crit in reference to Blu, wasn't sure which, thanks if you spreadsheeted.

Is that also the case for Thf/Dnc as well? Though I was just saying I wasn't sure between Crit/WSD which won.
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By Sylph.Oraen 2015-02-27 01:14:12
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It appears that our being able to use only 4 set points to get a trait was unintended. They've removed it. Tested with accuracy bonus trait. Setting only Vanity Dive did not give the trait, while setting Vanity Dive and Frenetic Rip gave Accuracy Bonus 2. So, overall, we still can get one higher tier, we just need to actually have the base 8 set points to achieve it.
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By mortontony1 2015-02-27 02:34:01
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Sylph.Oraen said: »
It appears that our being able to use only 4 set points to get a trait was unintended. They've removed it. Tested with accuracy bonus trait. Setting only Vanity Dive did not give the trait, while setting Vanity Dive and Frenetic Rip gave Accuracy Bonus 2. So, overall, we still can get one higher tier, we just need to actually have the base 8 set points to achieve it.

Well there goes easy counter/stp traits.
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By Pantafernando 2015-02-27 02:53:19
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Selindrile said: »
Pantafernando said: »
Dex+10.

Yar I said it had to be stats or crit in reference to Blu, wasn't sure which, thanks if you spreadsheeted.

Is that also the case for Thf/Dnc as well? Though I was just saying I wasn't sure between Crit/WSD which won.

Dex for thf, i dont have a clue whats best for blu.
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By Asura.Highwynn 2015-02-28 15:39:36
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Fun while it lasted. :/
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By Leoheart 2015-02-28 16:47:27
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How does Save TP Claid stack up against Damage+ Claid, either main, off, or both? I assume it can get it if Ipetam can, and the Save TP supposedly goes up to 300.

If you haven't seen anything yet, I've just seen a Claid with Save TP +90 on it.
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By Selindrile 2015-03-01 00:36:17
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If you haven't seen anything yet, I've just seen a Claid with Save TP +90 on it.

Yeah got Save TP 90 with a +2 stone earlier, that doesn't bode well, and JP spreadsheet only has double attack +4 as max aug.

In that case would storeTP +6 be better?
 
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By Ragnarok.Luloo 2015-03-01 04:41:02
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So well if the set you posted is a "solo" set assuming /dnc you need 50 dw to from traits/equip to cap delay (assuming u keep erratic and samba). The set you posted is @15dw so assuming dw4 from traits u'll need 5 more and u'r now at 78% delay. i personally like to have all my taeon to ta+2 and use dw7 earring in to be at 47 dw out of the 50 needed. In party scenario withe magical haste capped and dw4 u need 6 dw from equip to cap delay. as u i switch to windbuffet+1 and trux so that with taeon native dw4 i'm close to cap.
 
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By Ragnarok.Luloo 2015-03-01 05:04:02
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Well then without haste samba you will need 55% DW from traits/equip, so 25 from equip so yes dw5 on taeon hands and feet will do the job. I just advice you to avoid the stress of farming 2 more augments and be little undercap while saving some gils. In the end everything soloable is too easy even with sparks equip, so i'd rather just concentrate on pt set scenarios.
 
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By Ragnarok.Luloo 2015-03-01 07:35:42
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Moreover since i never was lucky enought to get DA+2 on iuitl+1 headgear, i was wondering whether a TA+2 taeon chapeau with crit+2 could be equal or better compared to iuitl. Also considering the chance of doing acc+ and att+ and idk maybe dex augment too.

What do you think?
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By Sylph.Oraen 2015-03-01 07:36:55
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In non-accuracy capped situations, yes, Taeon head will pull ahead. Otherwise, Iuitl will. The difference is very small, though.
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By Asura.Leoheika 2015-03-01 10:35:38
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Pretty happy with this so far, just gotta push for the dual attack & accuracy augment now :D

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By mortontony1 2015-03-01 13:52:43
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Nice augments! I got crit rate +4 instead of DA right now, will probably leave it until I have some more money/time to sink into it.
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By Sylph.Oraen 2015-03-01 21:40:28
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What is the highest value people have found for acc/atk on Claids? I've yet to see anything above 10/10. And, after 4 stacks of +2 leafslits, nothing above 4 DA. Are we sure they can go any higher?

Currently have a 15 D, 15 acc, 4 DA Claid, but not sure at what point it will overtake Uson. And I'm seriously starting to think it's not even worth it. About 40m spent on this in total.
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By Odin.Jassik 2015-03-01 22:13:58
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Sylph.Oraen said: »
And I'm seriously starting to think it's not even worth it. About 40m spent on this in total.

Well, at it's best it's not that far ahead of Uson, so I guess it depends mostly on what else you have to spend 40M on.
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By Sylph.Oraen 2015-03-01 22:35:54
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I should have put that money towards banana, but with the increase in native multi-attack we now have access to and the raw strength of Claid these days, I wasn't entirely sure if Tizona is still worth it. So, instead, I was dumb and flushed a ton of money down the drain.

Anybody have some numbers for comparison between banana and Claid? I've just been worried that the influx of multi-attack will be hurting AM3's importance.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2015-03-01 22:38:43
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I can't see tizona losing but I don't have any numbers on it myself so I'd be curious just how much better it is.
 
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By Leviathan.Stamos 2015-03-01 23:17:23
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I have Tizona beating Claid by a bit if you're maintaining AM3. And, Claid with +15 dmg/4 DA/15 acc/attack beating Uson by a bit. If you're using Claid tripudio is better than trux. If you're using Tizona, trux beats it
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By Odin.Llewelyn 2015-03-01 23:25:58
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Odin.Nikia said: »
Just assuming so not 100% but I would assume stack all the extra TA+2 hurts tizona less than stacking DA?
Neither DA nor TA hurts Tizona; it's always a DPS increase, just not as much of one with AM3 active. However, since Tizona's AM3 only affects the main hand, your offhand still gains the full benefit of DA and TA. Remember that 1-handed mythics gets more out of multi-attack then 2-handed mythic weapons.
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By Sylph.Oraen 2015-03-01 23:34:55
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Thank you for the response, Llew. Do you still find Tizona to be the ultimate sword for BLU at the moment?
 
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By Siren.Kyte 2015-03-01 23:47:37
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It is- it's just that it is, as you said, devalued. DA still increases the average number of swings per round, regardless of AM3.
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By Ragnarok.Luloo 2015-03-02 05:41:04
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So speaking of new spells set with 70 bp and 100 jp gift. This is my DD set, with dw3 (dw4 with gift). Any suggestion?
Quad. Continuum
Delta Thrust
Barbed Crescent
Empty Thrash
Heavy Strike
Thrashing Assault
Sudden Lunge
Glutinous Dart
Sinker Drill
Sweeping Gouge
Nat. Meditation
Erratic Flutter
Cocoon
Diffusion Ray
Molting plumage
Blazing Bound
Fantod
Magic fruit.

Also any suggestion of ws sets after new skirmish?
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