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By Eluveitie 2012-03-25 05:46:51
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Question is in the topic. Is there a good alternative to these bazubands since I really don't have time to camp this 28-72hr pop.
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2012-03-25 06:12:40
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as for alternatives: I dont know any, but then I didn't even know about these.

Do people actually camp the NM? I would think that it might be best to just run out there every 12 hours or so. I have a hard time thinking many people hardcore camp it, so its pretty likely it sits up a decent amount of the time.
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By Fenrir.Gundulagause 2012-03-25 06:38:58
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There is no alternative if you want a hand piece that enhances pet defense.
Also, there is nothing to "camp" or time to waste. Just run out into Mamook a bit, use widescreen to see if the NM is up, if it is = win, if not check again later.
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By Ragnarok.Eriina 2012-03-25 06:52:21
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There's no alternative as of now but I'm willing to bet the boost to def is so marginal you might as well not even wear hand equip. I'm saying, if you lose a fight it's not gonna be because you didn't have these hands.

That being said when I went to get mine he was just sitting up. Went 1/1.
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By Eluveitie 2012-03-25 07:04:49
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It's 5%. Why I was asking is the 5% really THAT worth it (been running out daily for 3mo semi afk in zone never seen the NM up ever). On my other options keep brego gloves in the slot or if pet is doing all the work hell even toss ferine hands +2 in the slot for the enhances ready?
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By Bismarck.Svtracing 2012-03-25 07:25:43
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There's no other option for Beast Bazubands. Like Sawtelle said, keep checking every couple hours. It's really worth the 5% defense bonus. Good Luck!
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By Xilk 2012-03-25 19:58:25
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Wiki ftl again...

"Pet: Defense Bonus

Appears to yield a 5% Defense Bonus after some preliminary testing."

There has been no serious testing of this piece. That comment was guessed when level cap was 75... and it was probably using carrie...

Its someone looking at the log and saying "my pet got hit for 95 damage instead of 100 damage after I put them on..."

Please link to any testing of the def bonus. I don't believe its a 5% def bonus at all. I would guess 10 def or something as miniscule as the 10 def from other pieces at the same time.

5% would be a HUGE difference from level 75 until now. The difference in performance would become more and more pronounced.
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By Leviathan.Alas 2012-03-25 20:05:47
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Yea, continuous camping is not really feasible. I went 1/5 on mine basically checking it when I would log in and checking again before logging out there.

You'll get them eventually, just takes some time if you aren't lucky enough to walk in and find the mob then go 1/1.
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By Leviathan.Tealsic 2012-03-25 20:54:03
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there is an alternative but it takes WAY too much time to get and nnoone has it therefore it hasn't been tested and it is a set (head+hands)
Idk how to insert the actual photos

Breeders Mask
http://www.ffxiah.com/item/16125/breeder-mask

Breeder Mufflers
http://www.ffxiah.com/item/15001/breeder-mufflers
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By lilcratis 2012-03-25 20:55:20
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i dont know of any other bst gloves with pet def. every time i go out to that area the nm is up...most dynamis beastmasters dont even know these gloves exist...i know 1 of the staging points is close to the nm...so just pop out there once in a while to do a WS for him and eventually you'll get him
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By Eluveitie 2012-03-25 21:51:38
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That breeders set just reading stats dosent seem like it would match up to even a AMK helm alone. Maint tmr just gonna pray I can get in fast enough to claim or at the very least capture a TOD.
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2012-03-25 22:33:46
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Eluveitie said: »
That breeders set just reading stats dosent seem like it would match up to even a AMK helm alone. Maint tmr just gonna pray I can get in fast enough to claim or at the very least capture a TOD.
Make sure to park yourself at the NM! :)
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By Ragnarok.Eriina 2012-03-26 15:23:50
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Well I doubt it'd be the difference of 100>95 dmg taken as its a boots to def, not -pdt%. Could be wrong. Def matters so little on players I just can't get excited about it.
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By Eluveitie 2012-03-27 01:25:26
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I found out the hard way apparently hes not reset by patches. Guess i'll just run there at close every day and log there. One day get lucky and run in to him when i log in.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Khrnos 2012-03-27 02:08:19
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Take it from me, I've forgotten I even have them. Only viable situation where you would use them is an pet only fight and even then you won't notice any difference.
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By Eluveitie 2012-03-27 04:19:56
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As it stands I'm at (correct me if i'm wrong on this but my understanding is AF3 +2 legs are -9%pdt from wiki stout servant) -46% PDT from gear (-37% if im wrong on stout servant). That being said like i asked a few posts above could i suffice with AF3 +2 hands in a pet only fight for the enhances ready effect and toss in my brego gloves for meleeing and forget this nm exists? Here's my current item set:

Anwig is +5% pet haste and -10%PDT MW is pet: Attack +15 DA/Crit +2 and the bestia greaves have +5 Pet acc (only equip these when not meleeing)
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By Cerberus.Finalvegeta 2012-03-27 04:27:02
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Eluveitie said: »
I found out the hard way apparently hes not reset by patches. Guess i'll just run there at close every day and log there. One day get lucky and run in to him when i log in.
Probably like Tiamat? It resets but opens a day later
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By Odin.Eddx 2012-03-27 04:39:48
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Eluveitie said: »
As it stands I'm at (correct me if i'm wrong on this but my understanding is AF3 +2 legs are -9%pdt from wiki stout servant) -46% PDT from gear (-37% if im wrong on stout servant). That being said like i asked a few posts above could i suffice with AF3 +2 hands in a pet only fight for the enhances ready effect and toss in my brego gloves for meleeing and forget this nm exists? Here's my current item set:

Anwig is +5% pet haste and -10%PDT MW is pet: Attack +15 DA/Crit +2 and the bestia greaves have +5 Pet acc (only equip these when not meleeing)


I'd suggest some augmented Adaman Sollerets if you are looking for a pure pet build. Along those same lines there are no other hands aside from the bazubands that would help your pet (granted it's a marginal boost at best). The +2 hands are nice, but can simply be macroed in to receive the full effect.
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By Eluveitie 2012-03-27 04:52:00
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Not a bad idea. Been looking for a reason to kill Byakko again other than just for giggles.
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By Xilk 2012-03-27 17:18:12
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Stout Servant 1 is 4.7% -dt
Stout Servant 2 is 6.7% -dt
Stout Servant 3 is 9% -dt

Bst gets stout servant 3 by level 99.

Ferine Quijotes +1/2 boost it up 1 level

It totals to 11% at level 99 w/ Ferine Quijotes +2 on.
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By Eluveitie 2012-03-28 02:47:14
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If thats the case I'm at 48% dt without bazubands that dont add any -pdt anyway just defense that I'm being told is negligable. I'll probably just keep brego's in the slot for melee and try to get a pet aug on adaman sollerets and say to hell with this NM.
Edit; seeing that the game is under constant updates anyway whos to say they wont release some new pet -pdt hands and this nm was a waste of effort.
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By Siren.Inuyushi 2012-03-29 08:21:31
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Eluveitie said: »
If thats the case I'm at 48% dt without bazubands that dont add any -pdt anyway just defense that I'm being told is negligable. I'll probably just keep brego's in the slot for melee and try to get a pet aug on adaman sollerets and say to hell with this NM.
Edit; seeing that the game is under constant updates anyway whos to say they wont release some new pet -pdt hands and this nm was a waste of effort.

With this logic, everything in the game is a waste of effort.
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By Eluveitie 2012-03-29 22:23:51
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Ultimately from a real life perspective be it you quit or SE decides to no longer run FFXI this is true.
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By Latifah 2012-03-29 22:29:55
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Odin.Eddx said: »
Eluveitie said: »
As it stands I'm at (correct me if i'm wrong on this but my understanding is AF3 +2 legs are -9%pdt from wiki stout servant) -46% PDT from gear (-37% if im wrong on stout servant). That being said like i asked a few posts above could i suffice with AF3 +2 hands in a pet only fight for the enhances ready effect and toss in my brego gloves for meleeing and forget this nm exists? Here's my current item set:

Anwig is +5% pet haste and -10%PDT MW is pet: Attack +15 DA/Crit +2 and the bestia greaves have +5 Pet acc (only equip these when not meleeing)


I'd suggest some augmented Adaman Sollerets if you are looking for a pure pet build. Along those same lines there are no other hands aside from the bazubands that would help your pet (granted it's a marginal boost at best). The +2 hands are nice, but can simply be macroed in to receive the full effect.
these augs are cute, also balanced for meleeing too with pet doing dmg at the same time
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2012-03-29 22:43:25
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I never did manage to get the Pet Haste augment on Adaman Sollerets before I quit.

I guess this is sort of related to Pet Def, but how's the Adamantoise pet?
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By Eluveitie 2012-03-29 23:32:52
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Not what you'd think from a turtle. Used it once and never again.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2012-03-29 23:35:29
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Eluveitie said: »
Not what you'd think from a turtle. Used it once and never again.


Oh well, at least the Hippogryph is good, I actually lobbied strong as hell for that being an inclusion.
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By Siren.Riznobi 2012-04-03 16:42:05
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It really depends on how much you play bst. I went 1/8 on my bazubands. If you solo a lot i would say go for them. In a party they arent needed. I've had quite a few nm's where my pet was at 1% hp with recast on call beast, and reward, and still got the win. It's also nice when you team up with other beasts and you dont spam reaward as much as them, or have to use dawn mulsums.

On a side note the turtle is win. He's resistant to water, and seems to have a natural damage down effect. He get's sketchy is abyssea, idk if Ducal Guard messes with him or what. Keep him above 50% hp and he's great.
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By Tibble 2012-05-27 01:45:22
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I parked a mule in Malmook on one of the upper ledges over looking the camp area. I had previously set my mule up to go to whitegate to open a locker so it was actually an easy run to get her there. Just need a form of sneak/invis and have reraise up just in case. I was then able to check to see if the nm was up before hiking all the way out there which saved me tons of time. Only once did someone else beat me to the kill doing it this way which wasn't too bad. Ended up getting 2 sets of gloves..one for me and another for a friend.
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By Odin.Terren 2012-05-28 00:59:35
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Congrats Tibble!

I think I was the bst that beat you to the kill that one time. I'm glad you got your gloves :)
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