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By Cerberus.Aydogan 2012-03-02 11:47:38
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Hey folks. So I've been soloing Fistule on my BST/DNC and am wondering if there is an effective way to always keep it claimed, since my pet often gets distracted by the smaller mobs. I spam Fight/Snarl whenever they're ready, and have no issue actually killing the mob. The issue arises when schmuckos try and steal the mob when it goes white for those few seconds. On my last run, an Empy NIN was able to get a ws off at 3% (killing the NM) despite the fact that I comfortably knocked off the previous 97%.

In terms of simply holding claim on the mob, is there something more I can do, or is it just a handicap of soloing on BST? Perhaps I'm just the victim of a douche NIN who got lucky with his ws, but I'm hoping there's a way to avoid that in the future, since we all know we can't really change the multitude of *** playing this game.

Any advice is appreciated - thanks!
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By Siren.Mosin 2012-03-02 11:53:22
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you might be boned. the only thing I can think of is talk a buddeh into killing the pustules for you. outside of that, maybe offer up the
+2 items to folks to kill the pustules, then you'd keep claim. I know you specified solo, but idk what you can do solo, as your pet's hate will bounce to whatever is damaging it.

maybe someone cooler will come along with better advice, but that's how I see it
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By Leviathan.Snakeslice 2012-03-02 11:56:32
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Solo wise I could only think of attacking fistule yourself so that when you lose claim its only for half a second but then that puts you in the middle of harms way with his AOEs. If you are still managing to kill him in under 5-10mins Nin just being a ***, more than that people just start to get impatient dealing with what is already a time spawn nm.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-03-02 11:58:17
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Cerberus.Aydogan said: »
Hey folks. So I've been soloing Fistule on my BST/DNC and am wondering if there is an effective way to always keep it claimed, since my pet often gets distracted by the smaller mobs. I spam Fight/Snarl whenever they're ready, and have no issue actually killing the mob. The issue arises when schmuckos try and steal the mob when it goes white for those few seconds. On my last run, an Empy NIN was able to get a ws off at 3% (killing the NM) despite the fact that I comfortably knocked off the previous 97%. In terms of simply holding claim on the mob, is there something more I can do, or is it just a handicap of soloing on BST? Perhaps I'm just the victim of a douche NIN who got lucky with his ws, but I'm hoping there's a way to avoid that in the future, since we all know we can't really change the multitude of *** playing this game. Any advice is appreciated - thanks!

He was probably telling his ls "i just sniped fistule from this bst who was taking 2 hours to kill".

That's one of the "problems" with bst. My friends duo'ed him as thf and nin at 90. The thf would pop and kite the adds while the nin solo'ed. 99 Thf might be able to just evasion tank him and his adds (maybe, i dont know).
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By Siren.Mosin 2012-03-02 11:59:43
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Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Cerberus.Aydogan said: »
Hey folks. So I've been soloing Fistule on my BST/DNC and am wondering if there is an effective way to always keep it claimed, since my pet often gets distracted by the smaller mobs. I spam Fight/Snarl whenever they're ready, and have no issue actually killing the mob. The issue arises when schmuckos try and steal the mob when it goes white for those few seconds. On my last run, an Empy NIN was able to get a ws off at 3% (killing the NM) despite the fact that I comfortably knocked off the previous 97%. In terms of simply holding claim on the mob, is there something more I can do, or is it just a handicap of soloing on BST? Perhaps I'm just the victim of a douche NIN who got lucky with his ws, but I'm hoping there's a way to avoid that in the future, since we all know we can't really change the multitude of *** playing this game. Any advice is appreciated - thanks!
He was probably telling his ls "i just sniped fistule from this bst who was taking 2 hours to kill". That's one of the "problems" with bst. My friends duo'ed him as thf and nin at 90. The thf would pop and kite the adds while the nin solo'ed. 99 Thf might be able to just evasion tank him and his adds (maybe, i dont know).

for sure Ash. I was killing mnk + whm the other night, not a challenge. THF would be just as good I'm sure
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By Cerberus.Aydogan 2012-03-02 12:06:47
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Oh yeah, kills don't take more than 10 minutes for sure. I might have to just chalk it up to a bush league NIN and perhaps give it a whirl on THF/NIN. Thanks for the replies so far, everyone.
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By Bismarck.Zuidar 2012-03-02 15:15:36
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Cerberus.Aydogan said: »
Oh yeah, kills don't take more than 10 minutes for sure. I might have to just chalk it up to a bush league NIN and perhaps give it a whirl on THF/NIN. Thanks for the replies so far, everyone.

Maybe thf/dnc to cure yourself up, or if you have dancer main leveled, could do dnc/mnk and use RR/GH/Apoc with counterstance and fan dance up, I tried this and it worked while doing gandiva 80. If you're fine doing it with BST, then you're fine with it. Play how you want to do it with your playstyle. Anyways, if you was to come across that little problem again, just remember "What goes around comes around" and do what he did :p

Normally I wouldn't actually throw bad karma back at a person, but I would really be an idiot to let someone get away with something like that or anything else. Then someone will actually have it coming to them. On the other hand, if I was knocked out then that would be another story
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-03-02 15:23:01
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or if you have movement speed + you can take hate on the pustules and kite them while ur pet kills NM.
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By Siren.Mosin 2012-03-02 15:24:59
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Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
or if you have movement speed + you can take hate on the pustules and kite them while ur pet kills NM.

O hell, that's it, they'll despawn if you drag far enough away, so you wouldn't even have to fight them, just leave your pet on NM.

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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-03-02 15:29:38
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I'm not sure if they deaggro or if they will slowly make their way back to nm... but anyways BST can also use these if you dont want to waste an atma or have movement+

http://www.ffxiah.com/item/15320/powder-boots
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By Caitsith.Sai 2012-03-02 15:35:32
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I can solo it extremely easy on Nin/dnc. Dont even switch out of tp gear when he pops adds, their acc is low. Thf should be able to solo kill it.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Milliniar 2012-03-02 15:36:25
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i find mnk/dnc way easier solo than thf/dnc, though my thf isn't well geared and was even less geared when i solo'd it
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By Siren.Mosin 2012-03-02 15:46:18
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Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
I'm not sure if they deaggro or if they will slowly make their way back to nm... but anyways BST can also use these if you dont want to waste an atma or have movement+ http://www.ffxiah.com/item/15320/powder-boots

they de-spawn entirely, I was told, so I guess 2nd hand info, but I trusted it at the time

/shrugg
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By Fenrir.Bonanna 2012-03-02 15:50:56
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I had the same problem. I got around it by being careful about how I killed. Worked maybe 75% of the time. Your mileage may vary though.

Normally I would use RR/Siren Shadow/AoA atma and use pet evasion axes. This way dipper was evasive enough to be missed by the pistules most of the time. Engaged with dipper and let dipper melee him down to build some hate until he called the pistules. Then I would use dipper's evasion down and attack down. Then just tried to zerg him down as fast as possible before dipper lost interest in fistule. Maybe requires 1-2 Zeta per fight since no MC and less -pdt than usual.

Eventually I just switched to dualboxing it with NIN and WHM though because it was simpler and quicker.
 
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By Cerberus.Aydogan 2012-03-02 16:38:41
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I just killed it a couple of times on THF/NIN with minimal trouble, so that makes me happy. And when I first got out there, a group had just killed it and gave me the 2 discharges that dropped because they were farming the KI. Gotta appreciate the good ones. Thanks for the discussion everyone!
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By Ragnarok.Unalteredbeast 2012-03-02 17:04:07
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I just killed it a couple of times on THF/NIN with minimal trouble, so that makes me happy. And when I first got out there, a group had just killed it and gave me the 2 discharges that dropped because they were farming the KI. Gotta appreciate the good ones. Thanks for the discussion everyone!

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By Xilk 2012-03-02 22:35:08
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you can pull hate on the pustules and pull them away.. its kind of annoying and time consuming though.

However really, you are bst/dnc.... if you are fighting him, you should engage fistule yourself.

1, you will kill alot faster, 2, you won't lose claim.

make sure to keep your tp.. only use ws if you have finishing moves ready to get tp back. you need to remove any status ailments as soon as they land. It really sux to get knocked too far away from pet to snarl and have gravity on you...
Also its best to WS > Snarl right after hate reset from dissolve. it makes it a very easy to balance fight.

in order to take claim from you someone else has to get in at least 2 moves while it is yellow before you get 1 more in. if you are attacking fistule, that will be a big challenge for another player. (possible w/ voke/flourish or 2x instant ja's)

Also, at level 90 it didn't take 15 min to solo fistule. I imagine it might take 8 min now. We didn't have ruinator before... but you are wasting your time on farsha... Its up to you... if you really want it...
but I don't even use mine. I have level 99 fire astolfo and 99 DA ganelon which either one are much better than farsha... I would only use farsha to brew in...
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By javelinx 2012-03-02 22:50:35
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Siren.Mosin said: »
Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Cerberus.Aydogan said: »
Hey folks. So I've been soloing Fistule on my BST/DNC and am wondering if there is an effective way to always keep it claimed, since my pet often gets distracted by the smaller mobs. I spam Fight/Snarl whenever they're ready, and have no issue actually killing the mob. The issue arises when schmuckos try and steal the mob when it goes white for those few seconds. On my last run, an Empy NIN was able to get a ws off at 3% (killing the NM) despite the fact that I comfortably knocked off the previous 97%. In terms of simply holding claim on the mob, is there something more I can do, or is it just a handicap of soloing on BST? Perhaps I'm just the victim of a douche NIN who got lucky with his ws, but I'm hoping there's a way to avoid that in the future, since we all know we can't really change the multitude of *** playing this game. Any advice is appreciated - thanks!
He was probably telling his ls "i just sniped fistule from this bst who was taking 2 hours to kill". That's one of the "problems" with bst. My friends duo'ed him as thf and nin at 90. The thf would pop and kite the adds while the nin solo'ed. 99 Thf might be able to just evasion tank him and his adds (maybe, i dont know).

for sure Ash. I was killing mnk + whm the other night, not a challenge. THF would be just as good I'm sure


yeah thf/dnc can tank guimauve and fistule/pustules solo
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By Shiva.Schatzie 2012-03-03 00:11:12
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Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Cerberus.Aydogan said: »
Hey folks. So I've been soloing Fistule on my BST/DNC and am wondering if there is an effective way to always keep it claimed, since my pet often gets distracted by the smaller mobs. I spam Fight/Snarl whenever they're ready, and have no issue actually killing the mob. The issue arises when schmuckos try and steal the mob when it goes white for those few seconds. On my last run, an Empy NIN was able to get a ws off at 3% (killing the NM) despite the fact that I comfortably knocked off the previous 97%. In terms of simply holding claim on the mob, is there something more I can do, or is it just a handicap of soloing on BST? Perhaps I'm just the victim of a douche NIN who got lucky with his ws, but I'm hoping there's a way to avoid that in the future, since we all know we can't really change the multitude of *** playing this game. Any advice is appreciated - thanks!

He was probably telling his ls "i just sniped fistule from this bst who was taking 2 hours to kill".

That's one of the "problems" with bst. My friends duo'ed him as thf and nin at 90. The thf would pop and kite the adds while the nin solo'ed. 99 Thf might be able to just evasion tank him and his adds (maybe, i dont know).
ive eva tanked him numerous times solo @ 90 as nin dnc, should be fairly simple for any eva class now.

can bst wear any throwing weapons? maybe try throwing something at it to supplement snakes advice? just an idea.

(but +1 to that nin, hate bsts who do that to people in dynamis)
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By Asura.Nimrot 2012-03-03 04:18:51
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my strategy was fighting the main nm without pdt gear to build up some hate on the fistule/pet after the adds pop i switch to pet pdt gear and my pet focus most of the time on fistule
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By Lakshmi.Giti 2012-03-03 05:34:34
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why are u not fighting with ur pet #1?
 
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By Xilk 2012-03-03 18:09:00
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Yes can be eva tanked solo at 90 nin/dnc, @99 should be cake.
No kiting no pet needed.....


bst will kill faster.
no need for pdt gear. just load up the dd and let yuly eva as normal.
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By Fenrir.Curty 2012-03-03 19:02:32
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Xilk said: »
37stitches said: »
Yes can be eva tanked solo at 90 nin/dnc, @99 should be cake.
No kiting no pet needed.....


bst will kill faster.
no need for pdt gear. just load up the dd and let yuly eva as normal.

lol no, nin kills fistule in under 2 mins at 90 cap
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By Valefor.Rancor 2012-03-03 19:05:56
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Can engague it as bst to hold claim. No reason using RR Ducal Gaurd and a Regain atma you shouldnt be fine. /dnc as well, save tp for when you can use snarl to mitigate hate and to cure incase of AoE
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By mortontony1 2012-03-03 19:15:41
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Valefor.Rancor said: »

Bst/dnc?! Unheard of!
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By Valefor.Rancor 2012-03-03 19:30:22
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mortontony1 said: »
Valefor.Rancor said: »
Bst/dnc?! Unheard of!

Well before we had dnc
/dnc was unheard of

Besides,
/nin/whm opens yellow procs
/war red
/cor pet rolls
/thf after TH nerf

It isnt always best to /dnc if you know what you are doing
a different sub can open more options depending on what your goal is, since soloing is fairly pointless w/o procs any more
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By Valefor.Rancor 2012-03-03 19:31:56
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Another option is only you melee Fistual and keep using snarl to put hate onto pet. Use a Dipper for TH, and AoE incase it spawns adds with hate on you.
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