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Level 99 Tizona
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By Carbuncle.Shokox 2012-02-09 18:53:00
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Anyone test/play with it on the test server yet? Or is it not possible? If so, any new data to share? Last test I've tracked was Nightfyre playing with the level 95 version.

If one can't do it or it's inaccessible, I'll get it eventually between the 15th and late March, and I can post about it here. First stage of level 99, obviously.

Or maybe Jim will make a post about it by then, since he should have level 95 Tizona now.
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By Carbuncle.Shokox 2012-02-18 16:27:31
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Jim posted as expected on BG:

DMG > MP Convert

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602 MP for 4126 dmg

25%~ Proc Rate; 15%~ MP Convert

Aftermath

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L3 Aftermath: 3 Minutes
L2 Aftermath: 4 Minutes 30 Seconds
L1 Aftermath: 1 Minute 30 Seconds

Hidden Effect: Expiacion damage +30%
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By Leviathan.Dragonlord 2012-02-18 16:32:47
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The mp conversion looks pretty sweet. However those AM times don't look right. It looks like he locked up in a menu so the timer stopped ticking on the AM2 test.

Also i thought SE stated +40% WS dmg for the 99 versions?

Sry i was thinking relic, mythics are indeed +30% as stated by SE in the patch notes.
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By Carbuncle.Shokox 2012-02-18 16:37:09
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I don't believe he would do that-- probably just WSed than stood around and sifted for the timer. Even so, I'm impressed for this weapon, even if the proc rate hasn't risen. Should open up a few more solo options.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-02-18 16:44:18
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Those durations are the same as when he tested at 95, so I'm pretty sure they're right. Different Mythics have very different duration structures for their aftermaths. The only one that is consistent is AM3.
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By Leviathan.Dragonlord 2012-02-18 16:49:07
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Hmm interesting find. I thought all mythics followed the same AM time. I guess SE thinks we have a terrible m.acc. problem, lol.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-02-18 18:12:36
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Obligatory "really low sample size" comment, not that I blame him. Testing the Damage>MP effect is extremely tedious since there's no log message. I would guess it's actually somewhat higher than 25%, will try to follow that up with data sooner rather than later.
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By Phoenix.Belgaer 2013-01-28 12:17:12
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So can the conversion effect only proc on Tizona hits? And can it proc on WS, or only on standard melee hits? There's a lot of iffy info on this and it'd be great to clear it up (at least for myself).
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2013-01-28 12:44:29
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Since this was already necro'd and i've been curious about a few things on this weapon since they aren't listed anywhere:

-Does the damage to mp conversion still trigger if you have aspir samba active while fighting an aspirable mob? (like a crab)

-The damage to mp conversion works on monsters without mana correct? (mandragora,etc)

-I've heard the damage to mp conversion doesn't work on undead. (doomed/skeleton/fomor) Yes/No?
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-01-28 12:53:12
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Tizona:

DMG to MP works on with samba as this is a conversion not a drain type spell.

The DMG conversion works on monsters without MP as it converts Damage, it does not say absorbs MP from.

Again the MP conversion is based on Damage dealt and is not a drain / absorb type spell so it should work on the undead, I will test this however once I am in game for you
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-01-28 12:54:25
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It doesn't work on undead
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-01-28 12:54:58
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Conversion of DMG to mp Does NOT proc on ws and only on normal attacks, including criticals, any attacks using a spel do not proc, in terms of dual wield, Again I think its only the hits from the Sword but I will test once I finish updating
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-01-28 12:55:49
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ah Thanks Proth, do you know about Dual wield? I only ever use this with Genbu Shield as its when I solo.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-01-28 13:03:00
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no reason to ever use genbu's shield tbh, aside from that it only works in the main hand
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By Phoenix.Belgaer 2013-01-28 23:23:48
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So wait. The MP conversion only works if you're main handing it? Or did you mean it only works on Tizona's swings? Also, your guide says Tizona is the best mainland because of the aftermath. I'm not questioning that, but what's so great about the aftermath, exactly? Isn't it accuracy at 100% with Expiacion only? I was under the impression that the magic accuracy comes at 200% and the OAT effect only comes with 300% TP. Is that wrong?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-01-28 23:25:38
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Have to update my Tizona information. It's a good mainhand for different reasons, not the best in most. And yes I mean it only works if you're mainhanding the sword, no mythic effects (afaik) work in the offhand.
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By Siren.Kyte 2013-01-28 23:28:08
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It only works on the mainhand, like the extra stats of every other legendary-type weapon aside from the +attributes on Empyrean weapons.

When people talk about utilizing Mythic aftermath, they are almost always talking about AM3.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-01-28 23:31:58
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mainhand* not offhand, oops. And yeah, always assume it means AM3 in 99% of cases
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2013-01-28 23:55:42
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If someone mainhands a tizona , wouldn't a fire shikargar always be the best offhand for the str/atk even though the base damage is 9pts lower than say a 99 almace?

Feels like a fire shikargar is going to be the better option since its also contributing more to the AM3 Oa2-3 strikes with mainhand compared to the 20dex from an offhanded almace. Yes/No?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-01-28 23:56:13
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by far
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By Siren.Kyte 2013-01-29 00:22:11
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Sanus Ensus is a pretty good choice if attack remains capped during Requiescat without a STR Shikargar's contribution.
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