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Dual Box Question
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 354
By Fenrir.Divinian 2012-02-04 05:57:19
I searched through a lot of the dual boxing threads that already exist and haven't found an answer to this specific questions, so hopefully someone knows.
I am constantly worried about heat issues on my macbook and am always looking for ways to make ffxi run a little easier and use less resources. inb4 don't use a macbook...this is not possible so please don't suggest it.. I was wondering how this would work:
If I download two windower folders (keep the one I have for my main and a new one for alt), could I turn down the settings on ffxi to ridiculously low levels for my alt and keep my main's really nice? Would doing this help resource/heat issues?
Any experiences/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 354
By Fenrir.Divinian 2012-02-04 06:57:46
Just an update:
I went ahead and created a new windower folder (windower 2) and used launcher_gui to create new settings for my alt. All of this worked, until I logged in my main. When I logged in my main, it too had the reduced settings. This makes me believe that when my alt logged in, it changed the config for ffxi and since there is only one folder for ffxi atm, it would be impossible to have two instances running different configs.
Therefore, do I need to have a duplicate ffxi folder? Can I just duplicate one file instead of the entirety of the ffxi folders? How would I link the different windower launchers to the separate ffxi files?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Bahamut.Jetackuu
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 9,001
By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-02-04 08:09:09
it's easily possible...but that aside:
how are you running XI? dualboot?
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 354
By Fenrir.Divinian 2012-02-04 08:52:50
it's easily possible...but that aside:
how are you running XI? dualboot?
i am using bootcamp, with windows 7 installed.
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 354
By Fenrir.Divinian 2012-02-04 09:10:58
it's easily possible...but that aside:
how are you running XI? dualboot?
And, can you explain to me how it is possible? I cannot get it to work and it even got my config stuck on the low end at one point where my high end launcher file was not changing the config on ffxi startup.
A restart fixed this.
Bismarck.Disguise
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 149
By Bismarck.Disguise 2012-02-04 09:20:06
The only thing I could suggest that might/should work is the following:
- Change your game settings to the settings you normally play on for your main character. (I'm guessing the highest).
- Then load up your main character so that you are already in-game and moving around.
- In your "Windower 2" folder, load up loader_gui and reduce the settings to which ever you prefer. (I'm guessing this will be the lowest in your case)
- Then load up your alt character so that you are already in-game and moving around.
Hopefully; this should allow you to play 2 different games and different settings. I don't think your main graphics would change since you already had the program running before you changing the settings.
The only down side to this would be everytime you wish to log on, you will first have to change your settings back to the highest before logging on, however if you make "profiles" in the loader_gui itself, it should be 100x more faster and easier.
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 354
By Fenrir.Divinian 2012-02-04 09:32:55
Bismarck.Disguise said: »The only thing I could suggest that might/should work is the following:
- Change your game settings to the settings you normally play on for your main character. (I'm guessing the highest).
- Then load up your main character so that you are already in-game and moving around.
- In your "Windower 2" folder, load up loader_gui and reduce the settings to which ever you prefer. (I'm guessing this will be the lowest in your case)
- Then load up your alt character so that you are already in-game and moving around.
Hopefully; this should allow you to play 2 different games and different settings. I don't think your main graphics would change since you already had the program running before you changing the settings.
The only down side to this would be everytime you wish to log on, you will first have to change your settings back to the highest before logging on, however if you make "profiles" in the loader_gui itself, it should be 100x more faster and easier.
I did make two profiles: one that was for my main and one for my alt. When I loaded my alt first, it was just as I wanted it (reduced)...but when I loaded the my main using the maxed settings gui, it had the better screen size, but retained the same background res as my alt, making it the minimum setting.
I did not attempt to do this the other way around as I assumed the result would be inverted...my alt would have the higher settings again. Actually, I decided to delete the windower 2 file for the time being so I can play while awaiting an answer, since the background res seemed to become "locked" at the low settings, despite the gui file being set to the high settings.
Bismarck.Tragedie
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 322
By Bismarck.Tragedie 2012-02-04 10:22:01
I load different resolutions by using changing the registry to the correct resoluion settings before launching windower, using a different .vbs script for each resolution. The script loads a corresponding registry file that sets the FFXI resolution settings in the registry.
I run fullscreen with my main character and use the default launcher.ini for windower:
Fullscreen.vbs: Code Set FFXI = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
strCommand = "regedit /s C:\Users\User\Desktop\Games\Windower\fullscreen.reg"
set objWshShell = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
intRC = objWshShell.Run(strCommand, 0, TRUE)
if intRC <> 0 then
WScript.Echo "An error occured changing the registry: " & intRC
else
FFXI.Run "C:\Users\User\Desktop\Games\Windower\launcher.exe"
end if
Fullscreen.reg: Code Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\PlayOnlineUS\SquareEnix\FinalFantasyXI]
"bFirst"=hex:00
"0000"=dword:00000000
"0001"=dword:00000780
"0002"=dword:000004B0
"0003"=dword:00000800
"0004"=dword:00000800
"0007"=dword:00000001
"0011"=dword:00000002
"0017"=dword:00000000
"0018"=dword:00000002
"0019"=dword:00000001
"0020"=dword:00000001
"0021"=dword:00000001
"0022"=dword:00000000
"0023"=dword:00000000
"0024"=dword:00000000
"0028"=dword:00000000
"0029"=dword:00000014
"0030"=dword:00000000
"0031"=dword:3bc49ba6
"0032"=dword:00000000
"0033"=dword:00000000
"0034"=dword:00000000
"0037"=dword:00000780
"0038"=dword:000004B0
Launcher.ini (loads by default without -c in command prompt) Code #Windower Console Key
console-key = insert
#PlayOnlineViewer Language (JP, US, or EU)
language = US
#Final Fantasy XI window resolution
x-resolution = 1920
y-resolution = 1200
Then a different one for my smaller resolution window:
1280.vbs: Code Set FFXI = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
strCommand = "regedit /s C:\Users\User\Desktop\Games\Windower\1280.reg"
set objWshShell = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
intRC = objWshShell.Run(strCommand, 0, TRUE)
if intRC <> 0 then
WScript.Echo "An error occured changing the registry: " & intRC
else
FFXI.Run "C:\Users\User\Desktop\Games\Windower\launcher.exe -c C:\Users\User\Desktop\Games\Windower\launcher1280800.ini"
end if
1280.reg: Code Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\PlayOnlineUS\SquareEnix\FinalFantasyXI]
"bFirst"=hex:00
"0000"=dword:00000000
"0001"=dword:00000500
"0002"=dword:00000320
"0003"=dword:00000500
"0004"=dword:00000500
"0007"=dword:00000001
"0011"=dword:00000002
"0017"=dword:00000000
"0018"=dword:00000002
"0019"=dword:00000001
"0020"=dword:00000001
"0021"=dword:00000001
"0022"=dword:00000000
"0023"=dword:00000000
"0024"=dword:00000000
"0028"=dword:00000000
"0029"=dword:00000014
"0030"=dword:00000000
"0031"=dword:3bc49ba6
"0032"=dword:00000000
"0033"=dword:00000000
"0034"=dword:00000000
"0037"=dword:00000500
"0038"=dword:00000320
launcher1280800.ini Code #Windower Console Key
console-key = insert
#PlayOnlineViewer Language (JP, US, or EU)
language = US
#Final Fantasy XI window resolution
x-resolution = 1280
y-resolution = 800
I run Vista 64 bit, so keep in mind your registry settings will be different if you run a 32 bit os. 0037 and 0038 are required for the new resolution changes they made in a recent update... set them to match 0001 and 0002 to ensure your screen size is correct.
The only thing to keep in mind using this technique is that you need to wait until the first FFXI instance actually hits the character selection screen before launching the second instance.
This method should work whether you have one windower folder or two... I've been meaning to split into two but I use a lot of the same scripts on both characters. I manually run a script on my smaller windower that sets draw distance to 1, disables infobar, and moves my Distance plugin text/value (I keep it in the lower right.
Hope this helps.
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 354
By Fenrir.Divinian 2012-02-04 10:38:29
Bismarck.Tragedie said: »I load different resolutions by using changing the registry to the correct resoluion settings before launching windower, using a different .vbs script for each resolution. The script loads a corresponding registry file that sets the FFXI resolution settings in the registry.
I run fullscreen with my main character and use the default launcher.ini for windower:
Fullscreen.vbs: Code Set FFXI = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
strCommand = "regedit /s C:\Users\User\Desktop\Games\Windower\fullscreen.reg"
set objWshShell = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
intRC = objWshShell.Run(strCommand, 0, TRUE)
if intRC <> 0 then
WScript.Echo "An error occured changing the registry: " & intRC
else
FFXI.Run "C:\Users\User\Desktop\Games\Windower\launcher.exe"
end if
Fullscreen.reg: Code Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\PlayOnlineUS\SquareEnix\FinalFantasyXI]
"bFirst"=hex:00
"0000"=dword:00000000
"0001"=dword:00000780
"0002"=dword:000004B0
"0003"=dword:00000800
"0004"=dword:00000800
"0007"=dword:00000001
"0011"=dword:00000002
"0017"=dword:00000000
"0018"=dword:00000002
"0019"=dword:00000001
"0020"=dword:00000001
"0021"=dword:00000001
"0022"=dword:00000000
"0023"=dword:00000000
"0024"=dword:00000000
"0028"=dword:00000000
"0029"=dword:00000014
"0030"=dword:00000000
"0031"=dword:3bc49ba6
"0032"=dword:00000000
"0033"=dword:00000000
"0034"=dword:00000000
"0037"=dword:00000780
"0038"=dword:000004B0
Launcher.ini (loads by default without -c in command prompt) Code #Windower Console Key
console-key = insert
#PlayOnlineViewer Language (JP, US, or EU)
language = US
#Final Fantasy XI window resolution
x-resolution = 1920
y-resolution = 1200
Then a different one for my smaller resolution window:
1280.vbs: Code Set FFXI = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
strCommand = "regedit /s C:\Users\User\Desktop\Games\Windower\1280.reg"
set objWshShell = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
intRC = objWshShell.Run(strCommand, 0, TRUE)
if intRC <> 0 then
WScript.Echo "An error occured changing the registry: " & intRC
else
FFXI.Run "C:\Users\User\Desktop\Games\Windower\launcher.exe -c C:\Users\User\Desktop\Games\Windower\launcher1280800.ini"
end if
1280.reg: Code Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\PlayOnlineUS\SquareEnix\FinalFantasyXI]
"bFirst"=hex:00
"0000"=dword:00000000
"0001"=dword:00000500
"0002"=dword:00000320
"0003"=dword:00000500
"0004"=dword:00000500
"0007"=dword:00000001
"0011"=dword:00000002
"0017"=dword:00000000
"0018"=dword:00000002
"0019"=dword:00000001
"0020"=dword:00000001
"0021"=dword:00000001
"0022"=dword:00000000
"0023"=dword:00000000
"0024"=dword:00000000
"0028"=dword:00000000
"0029"=dword:00000014
"0030"=dword:00000000
"0031"=dword:3bc49ba6
"0032"=dword:00000000
"0033"=dword:00000000
"0034"=dword:00000000
"0037"=dword:00000500
"0038"=dword:00000320
launcher1280800.ini Code #Windower Console Key
console-key = insert
#PlayOnlineViewer Language (JP, US, or EU)
language = US
#Final Fantasy XI window resolution
x-resolution = 1280
y-resolution = 800
I run Vista 64 bit, so keep in mind your registry settings will be different if you run a 32 bit os. 0037 and 0038 are required for the new resolution changes they made in a recent update... set them to match 0001 and 0002 to ensure your screen size is correct.
The only thing to keep in mind using this technique is that you need to wait until the first FFXI instance actually hits the character selection screen before launching the second instance.
This method should work whether you have one windower folder or two... I've been meaning to split into two but I use a lot of the same scripts on both characters. I manually run a script on my smaller windower that sets draw distance to 1, disables infobar, and moves my Distance plugin text/value (I keep it in the lower right.
Hope this helps.
Hmmm, I am usually pretty good at learning new things when it comes to computers, but I have never heard of a .vbs. Are these extras on top of using windower or are they part of windower.
If it is too hard to explain, don't worry about it. I will look into it later when I have some more time.
Ragnarok.Nemesio
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 747
By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2012-02-04 10:47:03
I bought a little fan for laptops to go on the bottom. Cools the bottom and does the trick. I used to have over heating issues, not anymore. And I run 2 instances at a fairly high resolution.
Cerberus.Kvazz
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 5,345
By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-02-04 11:36:53
I dualbox on my macbook just fine, without massively reduced graphics =/
Normal macbook with geforce 9400m graphics, 2gb ram and 2ghz cpu, like 3 years old
I'm also using win XP tho, might make a difference I guess.
What's the specs on your macbook?
Ragnarok.Zirael
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 95
By Ragnarok.Zirael 2012-02-04 12:10:52
Bismarck.Tragedie said: »I load different resolutions by using changing the registry to the correct resoluion settings before launching windower, using a different .vbs script for each resolution. The script loads a corresponding registry file that sets the FFXI resolution settings in the registry.
I run fullscreen with my main character and use the default launcher.ini for windower:
Fullscreen.vbs: Code Set FFXI = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
strCommand = "regedit /s C:\Users\User\Desktop\Games\Windower\fullscreen.reg"
set objWshShell = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
intRC = objWshShell.Run(strCommand, 0, TRUE)
if intRC <> 0 then
WScript.Echo "An error occured changing the registry: " & intRC
else
FFXI.Run "C:\Users\User\Desktop\Games\Windower\launcher.exe"
end if
Fullscreen.reg: Code Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\PlayOnlineUS\SquareEnix\FinalFantasyXI]
"bFirst"=hex:00
"0000"=dword:00000000
"0001"=dword:00000780
"0002"=dword:000004B0
"0003"=dword:00000800
"0004"=dword:00000800
"0007"=dword:00000001
"0011"=dword:00000002
"0017"=dword:00000000
"0018"=dword:00000002
"0019"=dword:00000001
"0020"=dword:00000001
"0021"=dword:00000001
"0022"=dword:00000000
"0023"=dword:00000000
"0024"=dword:00000000
"0028"=dword:00000000
"0029"=dword:00000014
"0030"=dword:00000000
"0031"=dword:3bc49ba6
"0032"=dword:00000000
"0033"=dword:00000000
"0034"=dword:00000000
"0037"=dword:00000780
"0038"=dword:000004B0
Launcher.ini (loads by default without -c in command prompt) Code #Windower Console Key
console-key = insert
#PlayOnlineViewer Language (JP, US, or EU)
language = US
#Final Fantasy XI window resolution
x-resolution = 1920
y-resolution = 1200
Then a different one for my smaller resolution window:
1280.vbs: Code Set FFXI = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
strCommand = "regedit /s C:\Users\User\Desktop\Games\Windower\1280.reg"
set objWshShell = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
intRC = objWshShell.Run(strCommand, 0, TRUE)
if intRC <> 0 then
WScript.Echo "An error occured changing the registry: " & intRC
else
FFXI.Run "C:\Users\User\Desktop\Games\Windower\launcher.exe -c C:\Users\User\Desktop\Games\Windower\launcher1280800.ini"
end if
1280.reg: Code Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\PlayOnlineUS\SquareEnix\FinalFantasyXI]
"bFirst"=hex:00
"0000"=dword:00000000
"0001"=dword:00000500
"0002"=dword:00000320
"0003"=dword:00000500
"0004"=dword:00000500
"0007"=dword:00000001
"0011"=dword:00000002
"0017"=dword:00000000
"0018"=dword:00000002
"0019"=dword:00000001
"0020"=dword:00000001
"0021"=dword:00000001
"0022"=dword:00000000
"0023"=dword:00000000
"0024"=dword:00000000
"0028"=dword:00000000
"0029"=dword:00000014
"0030"=dword:00000000
"0031"=dword:3bc49ba6
"0032"=dword:00000000
"0033"=dword:00000000
"0034"=dword:00000000
"0037"=dword:00000500
"0038"=dword:00000320
launcher1280800.ini Code #Windower Console Key
console-key = insert
#PlayOnlineViewer Language (JP, US, or EU)
language = US
#Final Fantasy XI window resolution
x-resolution = 1280
y-resolution = 800
I run Vista 64 bit, so keep in mind your registry settings will be different if you run a 32 bit os. 0037 and 0038 are required for the new resolution changes they made in a recent update... set them to match 0001 and 0002 to ensure your screen size is correct.
The only thing to keep in mind using this technique is that you need to wait until the first FFXI instance actually hits the character selection screen before launching the second instance.
This method should work whether you have one windower folder or two... I've been meaning to split into two but I use a lot of the same scripts on both characters. I manually run a script on my smaller windower that sets draw distance to 1, disables infobar, and moves my Distance plugin text/value (I keep it in the lower right.
Hope this helps.
Hmmm, I am usually pretty good at learning new things when it comes to computers, but I have never heard of a .vbs. Are these extras on top of using windower or are they part of windower.
If it is too hard to explain, don't worry about it. I will look into it later when I have some more time. VBS is Visual Basic Script http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VBScript
In a nutshell, it's a script.
It is a part of Windows, altho in some security settings it gets disabled (ie by antivirus or anti-malvare software) as it can be used to inject malicious code to your windows through email etc.
Bahamut.Jetackuu
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 9,001
By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2012-02-04 12:54:39
was talking of the bolded.
I used to use two different resolutions when I dual boxed with an external monitor, from the same folder.
The background resolution though I don't recall what I set it to.
Bismarck.Tragedie
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 322
By Bismarck.Tragedie 2012-02-04 21:04:37
Hmmm, I am usually pretty good at learning new things when it comes to computers, but I have never heard of a .vbs. Are these extras on top of using windower or are they part of windower.
If it is too hard to explain, don't worry about it. I will look into it later when I have some more time.
As Zirael mentioned, it's a type of script. If you're familiar with .bat or .cmd files, it's basically that with more advanced options.
I mention .bat and .cmd because you can do the same thing I'm doing with the .vbs script with the .cmd files. You'd load the registry files in with the 'reg import' command, and launch FFXI with the 'start' command (well, I think... you could probably just call launcher.exe directly without using start but I've just gotten used to using it when writing .cmd based scripts). If you go to the command prompt, you can see the options for each command by doing /? (reg /? and start /?).
This in vbscript...
1280.vbs Code Set FFXI = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
strCommand = "regedit /s C:\Users\Patrick\Desktop\Games\Windower\hq.reg"
set objWshShell = WScript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
intRC = objWshShell.Run(strCommand, 0, TRUE)
if intRC <> 0 then
WScript.Echo "An error occured changing the registry: " & intRC
else
FFXI.Run "C:\Users\Patrick\Desktop\Games\Windower\launcher.exe -c C:\Users\Patrick\Desktop\Games\Windower\launcher1280800.ini"
end if
...would be the rough equivalent to this in a batch file:
1280.cmd or 1280.bat, I usually do .cmd
The functional part: Code reg import "C:\Users\User\Desktop\Games\Windower\1280.reg"
start "FFXI - 1280" "C:\Users\User\Desktop\Games\Windower\launcher.exe" -c "C:\Users\User\Desktop\Games\Windower\launcher1280800.ini"
The "FFXI - 1280" part after 'start' is the "title" (again, run start /? for details). What you put there isn't important, but without it 'start' gets picky when it finds quotation marks later.
I usually polish (as much as you can with a command prompt window, anyway) my scripts, make them close automatically, etc:
Code @echo off
title Launching FFXI - 1280
color 1f
echo Launching FFXI...
reg import "C:\Users\User\Desktop\Games\Windower\1280.reg"
start "FFXI - 1280" "C:\Users\User\Desktop\Games\Windower\launcher.exe" -c "C:\Users\User\Desktop\Games\Windower\launcher1280800.ini"
exit
I should note that I haven't tested the above .cmd scripts, but that's a general starting point if you want to use that instead of .vbs if you're going with the registry import method.
I searched through a lot of the dual boxing threads that already exist and haven't found an answer to this specific questions, so hopefully someone knows.
I am constantly worried about heat issues on my macbook and am always looking for ways to make ffxi run a little easier and use less resources. inb4 don't use a macbook...this is not possible so please don't suggest it.. I was wondering how this would work:
If I download two windower folders (keep the one I have for my main and a new one for alt), could I turn down the settings on ffxi to ridiculously low levels for my alt and keep my main's really nice? Would doing this help resource/heat issues?
Any experiences/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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