Bad News BST

BSTs wont stop doing dyna because a silly nerf to TH, sure it sucks but saying that they'll no longer be income is dumb lol

Ditto, but it probably wont go that high again :P
This probably wont reduce the amount of bsts soo much, but it will lower their output a bit, but probably not by too much :<

They should make it so that currency only drops to me :<

If this nerf turns out to be bad I may have to try THF in dynamis again but man I hated the TE pulls.

If it is just me and a bst on a group... sure take 4 mobs... w/e...

But if there are multiple groups.... best not be trying to hold more than two.

Is it not so much an issue of an unfair advantage but an issue of a possible avenue for players being able to do something quickly?
I think the SE policy is that fast = bad. I mean why devote more effort to even more new content when you can just make less content take longer?

Ok. Maybe. But wouldn't be even faster if everyone just walked into a shop and were handed completed relic? Dynamis, especially after being opened up to the masses, isn't "hard." Sometimes I'm challenged by some things, sometimes I do better than others, and sometimes I die. But pretty much I know what to expect. So if it's not hard, and it's not long, and it's not a penis joke, what is it? It's just a thing given to you.

I don't play bst, and still, soloing dynamis, I bring in about as much currency as my dynamis linkshell did on an hour per hour basis - not even considering the 500k entry cost. Too slow? Dynamis is remarkably faster than it used to be. And while not "hard, you still have to put SOME work into it.

But maybe you're one of the people that would rather just go get one from an npc of a nominal fee. I'd suggest spending more time in the test server, then.

No. What actually happened is this: The level cap increased, the capabilities of jobs changed. (Look at where monk is now compared to 2006 - it's a whole different world.) The capabilities of jobs changed, so things intended for level 75 characters had to be changed. SE changed. Now, it looks like it isn't working out the way they thought, and they're fixing it.

Not everything is some kind of scam to force you keep subscribing and playing.

Last edit: I didn't mean for this to sound angry, if it did.

When i was a kid, I recall playing nintendo games for weeks. I can still pick up some of those games and play then for hours on end today.
At some point Galoob made a device called "game genie". There were games that I had played for hours and hours that I played on "easy mode" one time, beat, and never ever played again.

I never had a game genie, but was totally jealous... :D

I realize, though too, that this can cut both ways. And maybe some people react differently to what SE is doing - well, obviously they do. It just seems to me that if I thought dynamis was too hard, or a relic was too time consuming, I just wouldn't make one, and that would be the end of it. I don't feel any kind of "need" to do ANY thing is ffxi.

I think most of the game is open to almost everyone at some level, and that there are varying levels of success that (I thought) would be appealing to almost everyone.

BST didnt do this, the fact that dyna can be done everyday is what lowered prices. You are giving bsts far too much credit.

Lets face it TH is just a trait that is there for whatchumecallit moral cause it really doesn't do ***out of like 10 Adamantoise pops 2 thiefs 1 max TH and TH count at like 10+ not a single pop turned into red pond and no twilight mail has ever dropped TH is a confidence booster is anything. :D. Plus I agree I do Dyna as Monk/Dnc and get great currency.

So its just a coincidence that all these bst showed up to do dynamis and prices went down?

Last I checked /THF was still TH2. THF doesnt get TH3 job trait til lvl 90. The rest comes from gear.

The current system is what made prices drop, it has nothing to do with players/jobs. I should have also said the fact that dyna can be entered for FREE everyday instead of 500k a run also is a huge reason for the price drop. Again, jobs are irrelevant.

I think Yuly hates me.. I've never gotten anything useful from using her. I even tried that Falcorr fellow and nothing really noticeable. TH how does it work? :<

For irrelevant jobs ppl sure complain alot about only 1.

ok.

would be so nice if TE's didn't link, cause everytime they seem to be having a rave with the whole zone, would also be nice if double-up effect would be removed once an 11 is rolled, random QQ is random

Are you wearing full perle with gimp gear in every other slot? That usually helps increase TH effect.

Of course.

Dude. Really? I think that's the worst bad luck. I don't think I've ever waited even a minute for a clean pull on a TE. And some zones, they seem to be just wide out in the open. Bam, voke or chi blast, move away a little bit, and you're done.

ITT: TH is nullified any time you don't consider a drop useful.

As a thf, I have to say I am glad to see this happen. From what I saw on certain drops, Yuly appeared to have a higher TH than thf. I'm basing this on when I attempted to farm flood for myself. I spent a few days trying to get this, but never any luck. At the same time, there was a bst there who kept leaving and coming back. Checking the AH later, I saw they had like 8 of the last 10 scrolls sold. It may just be the RNG, but its a slap in the face when a THF gets less drops than another job.

Yuly and/or Falcorr doesn't have higher TH than your THF. Two things are going on here:

A) There is reportedly a dismal difference between TH3 and TH7.
B) BSTs generally kill stuff faster than thieves, allowing for more chances at said scrolls.

You forgot C)You are extremely unlucky.

The proof for BST pets having TH3 is really pretty simple. Bounty Shot with RNG AF3+1/2 gloves has a base level of TH3, same as a naked THF. Tag a mob with one of the THF pets, then use Bounty Shot with the gloves equipped. You'll either get the no effect message or a message indicating an upgrade to TH4. Keep spamming til the latter occurs, or get a THF with no TH gear to melee the mob until they get an upgrade.

Moving the english translation here, sorry for the double post:

Reposting from Kalilla's thread:

Premise: This is by no means a "QQ BST soro" post. I'd just like to point out and bring other players' attention to this disturbingly contradictory mindset that the Dev team appears to be pursuing as of recent. Draw your own conclusions...


I...don't understand this. Hippo jug was added, what, less than two months ago? BST ability to solo in dyna was well-established even at 95 cap, aka using Yuli. Not sure why they added another TH jug and then proceed to nerf it on the following update. I don't like where this is going.

Edit: added bold for emphasis

They're making it easier to synth, why exactly are you complaining?