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How i became a Christian.
Leviathan.Mnkk
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By Leviathan.Mnkk 2012-02-01 23:18:33
Before i was born my mother had 5 Mis-carrages. When i was finally concieved my mother was told at the day of my birth that she had a 0% survival rate and i had a 50% survival rate. My mother not being religeous, some how summed up the corage to follow threw. We both miraculously survived. 2 weeks before i was born my father was incarsarated for 20 years for 2 strong armed bank robberies. At the age of 2 my 15 year old brother was shot in the heart from a rival gang and killed. This caused my 2 oldest sisters to start doing drugs and drinking. My oldest sister became skitsophrenic and bipolar and was also raped and became pregnant with child. At the age of 5 my crazy sister tryed to commit suicide by jumping out of are 3rd story apt. Me and my mom stoped her. (I tryed what i could.. pulling her ancle) Shortly after that she dangled my 2 year old neice out of the window but didnt harm her. That was the last straw... My sister went to a physch ward and my nephews and neices went to foster care. After a few weeks i realized they wherent comming back. They where like brothers and sisters to me since we where so close in age. For the next five years me and my mom bounced around and at the age of 10 my 2nd oldest sister got married and adopted all of my nephew and neices back into the family's custody. From 10 to 14 me and my mom where homeless. At 14 my sisters husband went ballistic and broke my 2 year old nephews arm's and fractured his skull in 2 places. He was sentenced to 8 years, my sister devorced and everyone went back to foster-care. That happend my first week of high school and greatly effected my attendance. At 15 i received a phone call from my mom saying she was with my dad.... ( I never met him in person, and only talked to him a few times on the phone, but received alot of mail from him.) I didnt want to meet him but i was sort of forced into it. This happened on aug 1 2005 and after a week i fell in love with my dad. Just 3 weeks after meeting him he was moving into our new found home. It was aug 24 2005 that he was expected to move in at 6 pm. That same day i received a phone call at 7pm telling me that my father had been fataly wounded by a shot gun blast to the head... My father had accumalated alot of enemys being in the Mexican mafia. we burried my father on aug 29 and my 16th birthday was the 30th. A few months later a man that my mother dated off and on threw out my life was killed in prision from tainted heroin. This caused my mom to start doing drugs and alcochol for the first time to my knowlege. Shortly after she hooked up with a new boy friend and picked him over me and kicked me out on the streets at 16. During the new few years of my life i was a drifter and a loner. I spent alot of time wallowing in my own sorrow and eventually became very emotionaly unstable. I tryed to suppress all the pain by getting high. I developed a pretty fierce heroin addiction and started breaking into cars to sum up cash for drugs. Then at the age of 19 a christian family took me into their home because i was homeless and gave me food and clothing as well. After 2 months they asked me to read the bible with them. I agreed even tho i was an athiest, i figured it was the least that i could do for all they did for me. I started reading proverbs and some where in the midst of reading it I became convicted... My conscience condemned me and for the first time in my life i realized i was a sinner. The Law of God was perfect for converting the soul just as the psalmist said.. I realized what the cross meant.. i understood what grace was... I was a lieing theiving blaspheming adultresses murderer at heart... and God being good and loving,,, i thought would let me into heaven. Then i realized that because God Is Good and Loves... Justice and righteousness would have seen that i received what i deserved... Death for that was the wage i worked for. I accepted Jesus for who He is... Lord. And He transformed my life from the inside out. He's called me to be a pastor and has blessed my memory. I was once at loss to remember my cell phone number and now i have books of the bible memorized. The Lord has healed me of my emotional instability and liberated me and my family from the bondage of drugs and much more... the slavery of sin. God bless
Leviathan.Mnkk
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By Leviathan.Mnkk 2012-02-01 23:19:53
P.s. I know very well of my short comings to grammar and miss-spelling.
Do your best to translate miss-spelled words.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2012-02-01 23:20:08
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-02-01 23:20:58
i think i did something like this once before
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By Quetzalcoatl.Milliniar 2012-02-01 23:21:44
cool story bro.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-02-01 23:23:15
I know its wrong to troll but seriously that is an absurd wall of text.
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By Hades.Cheyne 2012-02-01 23:24:09
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2012-02-01 23:29:52
Okay so I decided to give it a shot and try and read it.. I got through what would be the first paragraph..
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-02-01 23:30:25
Pretty sure it's a troll.
Leviathan.Hohenheim
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-02-01 23:34:03
idk, i know mnkk, and it might actually be true lol
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By Ragnarok.Shadowknoll 2012-02-01 23:37:21
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: »idk, i know mnkk, and it might actually be true lol he has a sister that's both skitsophrenic and bipolar? I believe that's VERY rare. Be nice if it was a true story but sadly I doubt it. . . .
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By Odin.Liela 2012-02-01 23:40:21
How I became a Christian:
I was born into a religious family and it was not accepted that one of us might not follow the same path. I was indoctrinated from birth, converted to Christianity (from what I have no clue) at the age of 5, baptized at the age of ten, and every time I questioned it I was told "Put not the Lord your God to the test."
Then I grew up, moved out, and moved on.
Don't get me wrong, it's perfectly fine to be a Christian. But it's really not perfectly fine to try to make everyone else around you be Christians too. :/
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2012-02-01 23:42:27
How I became a Christian:
I was born into a religious family and it was not accepted that one of us might not follow the same path. I was indoctrinated from birth, converted to Christianity (from what I have no clue) at the age of 5, baptized at the age of ten, and every time I questioned it I was told "Put not the Lord your God to the test."
Then I grew up, moved out, and moved on.
Don't get me wrong, it's perfectly fine to be a Christian. But it's really not perfectly fine to try to make everyone else around you be Christians too. :/ I love you Liela!
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2012-02-01 23:48:01
Josiah shooting for mod.. The most anti-controversial mod ever.. Fixing people's pics and posts for them..
Leviathan.Hohenheim
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-02-01 23:50:26
Before I was born my mother had 5 Mis-carriages. When i was finally conceived my mother was told at the day of my birth that she had a 0% survival rate and i had a 50% survival rate. My mother not being religious, some how summed up the courage to follow through. We both miraculously survived. 2 weeks before i was born my father was incarcerated for 20 years for 2 strong armed bank robberies.
At the age of 2 my 15 year old brother was shot in the heart from a rival gang and killed. This caused my 2 oldest sisters to start doing drugs and drinking. My oldest sister became schizophrenic and bipolar and was also raped and became pregnant with child. At the age of 5 my crazy sister tried to commit suicide by jumping out of are 3rd story apt. Me and my mom stopped her. (I tried what I could.. pulling her ankle) Shortly after that she dangled my 2 year old niece out of the window but didn't harm her. That was the last straw... My sister went to a pysch ward and my nephews and nieces went to foster care. After a few weeks i realized they weren't coming back. They where like brothers and sisters to me since we where so close in age.
For the next five years me and my mom bounced around and at the age of 10 my 2nd oldest sister got married and adopted all of my nephew and nieces back into the family's custody. From 10 to 14 me and my mom where homeless. At 14 my sister's husband went ballistic and broke my 2 year old nephews arm's and fractured his skull in 2 places. He was sentenced to 8 years, my sister divorced and everyone went back to foster-care. That happened my first week of high school and greatly effected my attendance.
At 15 i received a phone call from my mom saying she was with my dad.... ( I never met him in person, and only talked to him a few times on the phone, but received a lot of mail from him.) I didn't want to meet him but i was sort of forced into it. This happened on Aug 1 2005 and after a week i fell in love with my dad. Just 3 weeks after meeting him he was moving into our new found home. It was Aug 24 2005 that he was expected to move in at 6 pm. That same day i received a phone call at 7 pm telling me that my father had been fatally wounded by a shot gun blast to the head... My father had accumulated a lot of enemies being in the Mexican mafia. We buried my father on Aug 29 and my 16th birthday was the 30th.
A few months later a man that my mother dated off and on throughout my life was killed in prison from tainted heroin. This caused my mom to start doing drugs and alcohol for the first time to my knowledge. Shortly after she hooked up with a new boy friend and picked him over me and kicked me out on the streets at 16. During the new few years of my life i was a drifter and a loner. I spent a lot of time wallowing in my own sorrow and eventually became very emotionally unstable. I tried to suppress all the pain by getting high. I developed a pretty fierce heroin addiction and started breaking into cars to sum up cash for drugs.
Then at the age of 19 a Christian family took me into their home because I was homeless and gave me food and clothing as well. After 2 months they asked me to read the bible with them. I agreed even though I was an atheist, I figured it was the least that i could do for all they did for me. I started reading proverbs and some where in the midst of reading it I became convicted... My conscience condemned me and for the first time in my life I realized I was a sinner. The Law of God was perfect for converting the soul just as the psalmist said.. I realized what the cross meant.. I understood what grace was... I was a lying thieving blaspheming adulteresses murderer at heart... and God being good and loving... I thought would let me into heaven.
Then I realized that because God Is Good and Loves... Justice and righteousness would have seen that I received what I deserved... Death for that was the wage i worked for. I accepted Jesus for who He is... Lord. And He transformed my life from the inside out. He's called me to be a pastor and has blessed my memory. I was once at loss to remember my cell phone number and now i have books of the bible memorized. The Lord has healed me of my emotional instability and liberated me and my family from the bondage of drugs and much more... the slavery of sin. God bless
I corrected the grammar and spaced it a bit based on your points to make it more readable. On topic all I will say is, I'm very glad religious and spirituality has helped you take control of your life in such a strong way[/quote]
religious is an adjective when it should be in a nominative noun form ;;
(sorry >_> only way to keep myself from exploding about religion)
Leviathan.Mnkk
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By Leviathan.Mnkk 2012-02-01 23:50:42
True story. My moms going back and forth but getting better since she doesnt get high as often. And if you dont believe me check my facebook
Angel Carbajal is my name. I have a white dress shirt in my picture. I put that story up 1.5 years ago. Gods made my trials and heart ache, that will usually set in the minds of many... PROOF that there is no "God", as a means for me to reach out to hurting children and people with a rough up bringing. I could never relate to church folk because when they told me God had a plan for my life, i could just look into there eyes and tell they never had to sleep in a park or in a car for months or knew what it was like to be hooked on drugs... so i felt like they didnt have the right to tell me "Its gona be okay" Now when i reach out to people who have been in similar heart aches and pains, they accept me as a authentic... because i in fact am.. I know what its like to endure pain as a young person, and to endure it alone. God bless you guys, and for anyone who hates my typing or my story, and God, I got one thing to tell you dude..... God loves you. Have a good day.
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By Shiva.Xellith 2012-02-01 23:53:01
Long version:
Before i was born my mother had 5 Mis-carrages. When i was finally concieved my mother was told at the day of my birth that she had a 0% survival rate and i had a 50% survival rate. My mother not being religeous, some how summed up the corage to follow threw. We both miraculously survived. 2 weeks before i was born my father was incarsarated for 20 years for 2 strong armed bank robberies. At the age of 2 my 15 year old brother was shot in the heart from a rival gang and killed. This caused my 2 oldest sisters to start doing drugs and drinking. My oldest sister became skitsophrenic and bipolar and was also raped and became pregnant with child. At the age of 5 my crazy sister tryed to commit suicide by jumping out of are 3rd story apt. Me and my mom stoped her. (I tryed what i could.. pulling her ancle) Shortly after that she dangled my 2 year old neice out of the window but didnt harm her. That was the last straw... My sister went to a physch ward and my nephews and neices went to foster care. After a few weeks i realized they wherent comming back. They where like brothers and sisters to me since we where so close in age. For the next five years me and my mom bounced around and at the age of 10 my 2nd oldest sister got married and adopted all of my nephew and neices back into the family's custody. From 10 to 14 me and my mom where homeless. At 14 my sisters husband went ballistic and broke my 2 year old nephews arm's and fractured his skull in 2 places. He was sentenced to 8 years, my sister devorced and everyone went back to foster-care. That happend my first week of high school and greatly effected my attendance. At 15 i received a phone call from my mom saying she was with my dad.... ( I never met him in person, and only talked to him a few times on the phone, but received alot of mail from him.) I didnt want to meet him but i was sort of forced into it. This happened on aug 1 2005 and after a week i fell in love with my dad. Just 3 weeks after meeting him he was moving into our new found home. It was aug 24 2005 that he was expected to move in at 6 pm. That same day i received a phone call at 7pm telling me that my father had been fataly wounded by a shot gun blast to the head... My father had accumalated alot of enemys being in the Mexican mafia. we burried my father on aug 29 and my 16th birthday was the 30th. A few months later a man that my mother dated off and on threw out my life was killed in prision from tainted heroin. This caused my mom to start doing drugs and alcochol for the first time to my knowlege. Shortly after she hooked up with a new boy friend and picked him over me and kicked me out on the streets at 16. During the new few years of my life i was a drifter and a loner. I spent alot of time wallowing in my own sorrow and eventually became very emotionaly unstable. I tryed to suppress all the pain by getting high. I developed a pretty fierce heroin addiction and started breaking into cars to sum up cash for drugs. Then at the age of 19 a christian family took me into their home because i was homeless and gave me food and clothing as well. After 2 months they asked me to read the bible with them. I agreed even tho i was an athiest, i figured it was the least that i could do for all they did for me. I started reading proverbs and some where in the midst of reading it I became convicted... My conscience condemned me and for the first time in my life i realized i was a sinner. The Law of God was perfect for converting the soul just as the psalmist said.. I realized what the cross meant.. i understood what grace was... I was a lieing theiving blaspheming adultresses murderer at heart... and God being good and loving,,, i thought would let me into heaven. Then i realized that because God Is Good and Loves... Justice and righteousness would have seen that i received what i deserved... Death for that was the wage i worked for. I accepted Jesus for who He is... Lord. And He transformed my life from the inside out. He's called me to be a pastor and has blessed my memory. I was once at loss to remember my cell phone number and now i have books of the bible memorized. The Lord has healed me of my emotional instability and liberated me and my family from the bondage of drugs and much more... the slavery of sin. God bless
Short version:
"So basically a LOT of bad things happened in my life. I cherry picked what I liked in the bible and now I am christian."
Leviathan.Hohenheim
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2012-02-01 23:53:18
gaaaaaarghjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjl musssssssst.....stopppppppp..
god doesn't love me >_>
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-02-01 23:54:47
We don't hate your story, we just know there isn't a god.
Leviathan.Mnkk
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By Leviathan.Mnkk 2012-02-01 23:58:46
And one last thing, to any who may think that my faith is ok for me and not okay to share, i leave you with this... If i truly believed that Jesus Christ is the only way anyone would get to heaven and everyone else will parish in hell, and didn't attempt to inform you or at least share my story... What kinda person would that make me? If you seen a child walking into traffic surely you would stop the child... but you are not children, you are men and women... and if you seen a man walking into unseen traffic at least you would give a shout.
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By Sylph.Lorax 2012-02-02 00:02:25
You are completely insane. /thread
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2012-02-02 00:02:38
I was Christian for most of my young life, I even went back to it for my father's approval in my teens.. At all times I was a practicing Christian.. Not the "yes I believe in God" but praying, reading the bible, going to Church, etc.."
I was also on my own being brought up, and endured more than my fair share of pain, both physical and mental, both brought on by others and by situations that really out of my control and anyone elses..
But I didn't turn to a God for strength or try to find a reason for the suffering and pain.. '***happens'.. My experiences aren't the reason I don't believe in God, I don't believe in God because none of it makes sense, it's just far too inconsistent.
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-02-02 00:03:41
A child walking into traffic is actually walking into danger; a man walking without an imaginary person who never actually existed by his side is a man walking without an imaginary person who never actually existed at his side.
You refer to him as Jesus.
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By Shiva.Xellith 2012-02-02 00:06:12
God of the bible is so loving.
God said - "Let there be rape"
Rape In The Bible
Rape is one of the most heinous crimes imaginable. Yet few people know that the Bible often condones and even approves of rape. How anyone can get their moral guidance from a book that allows rape escapes me. Perhaps they have been lied to about the Bible and carefully detoured around all the nasty stuff in the Bible.
So grab your Bibles and follow along as I show you all the nasty rapes that your priests and preachers don't want to tell you about. Note that in many places in the Bible there are references to "taking a wife". Don't be fooled into thinking that these were voluntary marriages. This first quote clearly shows that murder and force were used to "take" these wives.
1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)
So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.
The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."
Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.
Obviously these women were repeatedly raped. These sick *** killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more. How can anyone see this as anything but evil?
2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)
They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.
Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
Clearly Moses and God approves of rape of virgins.
3) More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
What kind of God approves of murder, rape, and slavery?
4) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God.
5) Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)
If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.
It is clear that God doesn't give a damn about the rape victim. He is only concerned about the violation of another mans "property".
6) David's Punishment - Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and God's "Forgiveness" (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB)
Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.'
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die." [The child dies seven days later.]
This has got to be one of the sickest quotes of the Bible. God himself brings the completely innocent rape victims to the rapist. What kind of pathetic loser would do something so evil? And then he kills a child! This is sick, really sick!
7) Rape of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)
"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."
Once again God approves of forcible rape.
8) Rape and the Spoils of War (Judges 5:30 NAB)
They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera's spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil. (Judges 5:30 NAB)
9) Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
10) God Assists Rape and Plunder (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
You can comment on saving children walking accross the street and saving them. But you dont need faith in some magic man to be a good person and do good things.
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2012-02-02 00:07:19
A child walking into traffic is actually walking into danger; a man walking without an imaginary person who never actually existed by his side is a man walking without an imaginary person who never actually existed at his side.
You refer to him as Jesus.
To be fair we know Jesus existed. Almost Everything biblical about him is unprovable, but there is evidence that the person existed and he traveled around teaching religion.
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By volkom 2012-02-02 00:10:24
God of the bible is so loving.
God said - "Let there be rape"
Rape In The Bible
Rape is one of the most heinous crimes imaginable. Yet few people know that the Bible often condones and even approves of rape. How anyone can get their moral guidance from a book that allows rape escapes me. Perhaps they have been lied to about the Bible and carefully detoured around all the nasty stuff in the Bible.
So grab your Bibles and follow along as I show you all the nasty rapes that your priests and preachers don't want to tell you about. Note that in many places in the Bible there are references to "taking a wife". Don't be fooled into thinking that these were voluntary marriages. This first quote clearly shows that murder and force were used to "take" these wives.
1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)
So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.
The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."
Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.
Obviously these women were repeatedly raped. These sick *** killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more. How can anyone see this as anything but evil?
2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)
They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.
Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
Clearly Moses and God approves of rape of virgins.
3) More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
What kind of God approves of murder, rape, and slavery?
4) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Answer: God.
5) Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)
If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.
It is clear that God doesn't give a damn about the rape victim. He is only concerned about the violation of another mans "property".
6) David's Punishment - Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and God's "Forgiveness" (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB)
Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.'
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die." [The child dies seven days later.]
This has got to be one of the sickest quotes of the Bible. God himself brings the completely innocent rape victims to the rapist. What kind of pathetic loser would do something so evil? And then he kills a child! This is sick, really sick!
7) Rape of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)
"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."
Once again God approves of forcible rape.
8) Rape and the Spoils of War (Judges 5:30 NAB)
They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera's spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil. (Judges 5:30 NAB)
9) Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
10) God Assists Rape and Plunder (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
You can comment on saving children walking accross the street and saving them. But you dont need faith in some magic man to be a good person and do good things.
religion sucks
Before i was born my mother had 5 Mis-carrages. When i was finally concieved my mother was told at the day of my birth that she had a 0% survival rate and i had a 50% survival rate. My mother not being religeous, some how summed up the corage to follow threw. We both miraculously survived. 2 weeks before i was born my father was incarsarated for 20 years for 2 strong armed bank robberies. At the age of 2 my 15 year old brother was shot in the heart from a rival gang and killed. This caused my 2 oldest sisters to start doing drugs and drinking. My oldest sister became skitsophrenic and bipolar and was also raped and became pregnant with child. At the age of 5 my crazy sister tryed to commit suicide by jumping out of are 3rd story apt. Me and my mom stoped her. (I tryed what i could.. pulling her ancle) Shortly after that she dangled my 2 year old neice out of the window but didnt harm her. That was the last straw... My sister went to a physch ward and my nephews and neices went to foster care. After a few weeks i realized they wherent comming back. They where like brothers and sisters to me since we where so close in age. For the next five years me and my mom bounced around and at the age of 10 my 2nd oldest sister got married and adopted all of my nephew and neices back into the family's custody. From 10 to 14 me and my mom where homeless. At 14 my sisters husband went ballistic and broke my 2 year old nephews arm's and fractured his skull in 2 places. He was sentenced to 8 years, my sister devorced and everyone went back to foster-care. That happend my first week of high school and greatly effected my attendance. At 15 i received a phone call from my mom saying she was with my dad.... ( I never met him in person, and only talked to him a few times on the phone, but received alot of mail from him.) I didnt want to meet him but i was sort of forced into it. This happened on aug 1 2005 and after a week i fell in love with my dad. Just 3 weeks after meeting him he was moving into our new found home. It was aug 24 2005 that he was expected to move in at 6 pm. That same day i received a phone call at 7pm telling me that my father had been fataly wounded by a shot gun blast to the head... My father had accumalated alot of enemys being in the Mexican mafia. we burried my father on aug 29 and my 16th birthday was the 30th. A few months later a man that my mother dated off and on threw out my life was killed in prision from tainted heroin. This caused my mom to start doing drugs and alcochol for the first time to my knowlege. Shortly after she hooked up with a new boy friend and picked him over me and kicked me out on the streets at 16. During the new few years of my life i was a drifter and a loner. I spent alot of time wallowing in my own sorrow and eventually became very emotionaly unstable. I tryed to suppress all the pain by getting high. I developed a pretty fierce heroin addiction and started breaking into cars to sum up cash for drugs. Then at the age of 19 a christian family took me into their home because i was homeless and gave me food and clothing as well. After 2 months they asked me to read the bible with them. I agreed even tho i was an athiest, i figured it was the least that i could do for all they did for me. I started reading proverbs and some where in the midst of reading it I became convicted... My conscience condemned me and for the first time in my life i realized i was a sinner. The Law of God was perfect for converting the soul just as the psalmist said.. I realized what the cross meant.. i understood what grace was... I was a lieing theiving blaspheming adultresses murderer at heart... and God being good and loving,,, i thought would let me into heaven. Then i realized that because God Is Good and Loves... Justice and righteousness would have seen that i received what i deserved... Death for that was the wage i worked for. I accepted Jesus for who He is... Lord. And He transformed my life from the inside out. He's called me to be a pastor and has blessed my memory. I was once at loss to remember my cell phone number and now i have books of the bible memorized. The Lord has healed me of my emotional instability and liberated me and my family from the bondage of drugs and much more... the slavery of sin. God bless
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