Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
How about 10% dw on skadi body?
Has it been confirmed that Skady+1 body is 10DW?
THF TP Sets And Assassin Poulaines +2.
THF TP sets and Assassin Poulaines +2.
Has it been confirmed that Skady+1 body is 10DW?
No, I was asking if that would beat thaumas if it was 10% dw.
Actually yeah, I think Skadi Body +1 wins if it's 10% DW. I just assumed it was 5% because I'm pessimistic. =P
But *** me, I think Skadi Body has to be one of the most ugly body pieces in the game. Well, it looks okay on Mithras I guess.
As for Skadi Legs though, unless the bonus increases with each piece I don't think 3% crit will beat 9 STR. The accuracy on Thaumas helps with harder stuff, too.
But *** me, I think Skadi Body has to be one of the most ugly body pieces in the game. Well, it looks okay on Mithras I guess.
As for Skadi Legs though, unless the bonus increases with each piece I don't think 3% crit will beat 9 STR. The accuracy on Thaumas helps with harder stuff, too.
STP isn't doing anything of value? :( I want skadi legs to win! Though, there is a fair bit of content you would cap fstr on anyways, so situational if nothing else.
Leviathan.Kincard said: »
But *** me, I think Skadi Body has to be one of the most ugly body pieces in the game.
Then again I am a mithra.
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As far as I can tell, the set I posted earlier is still winning. Skadi +1 body had to be 10% for it to win against Thaumas. Usefulness of skadi legs depends on what the 3/5 set bonus is.
On the bright side, that means less Umbrage plan farming.
On the bright side, that means less Umbrage plan farming.
Leviathan.Kincard said: »
As far as I can tell, the set I posted earlier is still winning. Skadi +1 body had to be 10% for it to win against Thaumas. Usefulness of skadi legs depends on what the 3/5 set bonus is.
On the bright side, that means less Umbrage plan farming.
On the bright side, that means less Umbrage plan farming.
Do you mean the set you posted on the last page ? For mandau/thokcha(fire) I have skadi body+1 winning w/o counting the set bonus.
Rancor beats Portus for TP?
Sylph.Peldin said: »
Rancor beats Portus for TP?
Weird, because for BLU, Portus is better. They must be pretty dang close.
It's because double attack gets devalued by triple attack. THF gets lots of triple attack, BLU doesn't.
The check goes in order of QA > TA > DA > OAx I believe.
The check goes in order of QA > TA > DA > OAx I believe.
Ramuh.Yarly said: »
THF gets lots of triple attack, BLU doesn't.
BLU gets 5%
(without gear obviously)
Doesn't seem like that big of a difference, but ok.
Sylph.Peldin said: »
Weird, because for BLU, Portus is better. They must be pretty dang close.
Asura.Ccl said: »
Do you mean the set you posted on the last page ? For mandau/thokcha(fire) I have skadi body+1 winning w/o counting the set bonus.
What is the rest of your set, what kind of buffs are you using, and what target are you setting? If you use Thaumas you'll be using Patentia and if you use Skadi+1 you'd assumedly be using Twilight. So basically a Skadi+1 set that caps haste will have 2% DW over the Thaumas Coat set. I don't see that ever beating the DA/TA/QA on Thaumas unless you are getting a ton of crit rate out of the DEX on the Skadi Body.
Skadi +1 body probably has application VS certain targets but I'm not going to gather yet another 50 plans just for something that's not going to be useful under the majority of situations until I have absolutely nothing else left to get from Neo Salvage.
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I'd like to echo Kincard and say that, according to the spreadsheet, this set is the best I can come up with:
Some notes:
Some notes:
Skadi+1 legs only come out above Thaumas on Fodder mobs, and that's entirely dependant on the set bonus. Personally I think that makes them not worth farming.
I've never looked closely at Pugiunculus so I can't comment on it's ranking among offhand weapons before this set, but against Fodder and DC Dynamis mobs the only thing that beats it is 99 Twashtar. 90 doesn't cut it. Even against Qilin (with /WAR and Berserk up) it was beating everything but 99 Twashtar. Drop Berserk and it's only below Fire Thokcha by 3 DPS (~1.44%), 99 Twashtar by 2.3 DPS. (~1.1%) and Aluh Jambiya by 0.3 DPS (~0.14%). Food was set to Yellow Curry Bun. Haste spell was on.
This set has a whopping 104 Attack on it plus another 15.5 that you'd get from it's 31 STR. That could help explain why Pugiunculus is doing so well even on higher level enemies.
Nusku's Sash and Sigyn's Jambeaux still came out on top of Twilight/Assassin+2.
I was using +3% Crit Rate per Skadi+1 piece beyond the first as the set bonus.
Valefor.Madranta said: »
I'd like to echo Kincard and say that, according to the spreadsheet, this set is the best I can come up with...
Skadi+1 Legs also probaby come out ahead if you're getting STR buffs, daggers cap fSTR early.
I get a similar set for a Taru THF/WAR vs. DC Nightmare monsters. Buffs assumed were Haste and 500 skill Boost-STR. I get Thaumas < Skadi +1. I also don't seem to get the best set changing as you hit the magic haste cap. Mercy Stroke also seems to be the best SA and TA WS.
Vajra with a free AM3 improves DPS by <1%... oh Vajra. I checked it out, and it has been fully implemented with SA/TA bonuses.
Vajra with a free AM3 improves DPS by <1%... oh Vajra. I checked it out, and it has been fully implemented with SA/TA bonuses.
Phoenix.Suji said: »
Valefor.Madranta said: »
I'd like to echo Kincard and say that, according to the spreadsheet, this set is the best I can come up with...
Race is Mithra with 12 STR and DEX merits and sub on Fodder and DC was DNC, no haste samba. On Qilin it was /WAR with Aggressor and Berserk on plus Stalwart's and 10% def down assuming Dia 2. No BRD, COR, Boost or other buffs were used.
I used the set you posted on last page and just changed thaumas body by skadi body +1, target was dynamis DC and just haste/rcb as buff, race was mithra.
Was messing around with the spreadsheet too, and for me (Mithra, /dnc, RCB, dyna dc etc) with the above set, Love is coming out about 1.5 DPS more than Rancor. Might wanna keep Love in mind while fiddling around with your sets.
Odin.Calipso said: »
Was messing around with the spreadsheet too, and for me (Mithra, /dnc, RCB, dyna dc etc) with the above set, Love is coming out about 1.5 DPS more than Rancor. Might wanna keep Love in mind while fiddling around with your sets.
I get that too, but only for DC Nightmare mobs. On Fodder and Qilin, Rancor is about 5 DPS better. DEX is having a huge effect on that set against DC for some reason. Even Spike Necklace is 0.8 ahead of Rancor. Using Rancor as a base if I add 8 DEX in the set bonus section (on top of the 2 I already have set for Thaumas) I get 9.1 DPS out of it. It caps there and doesn't supply any more benefit after that.
dDEX caps at 50, and for 0-40 dDEX increases your critical hit rate by 1% every 10 DEX you have more than your target's AGI.
For 41-50, you get 1% critical hit rate for every point of DEX until it caps out at +50 and you get only accuracy bonuses out of it.
For 41-50, you get 1% critical hit rate for every point of DEX until it caps out at +50 and you get only accuracy bonuses out of it.
If you're crazy enough you can have multiple different TP sets based on the AGI of the opponent that you're fighting, but I don't have the space for that myself, heh. I'd rather go for a more all-purpose TP set that focuses on multiattack, STR, attack etc outside of extraneous circumstances like really evasive monsters and the like.
Leviathan.Kincard said: »
If you're crazy enough you can have multiple different TP sets based on the AGI of the opponent that you're fighting, but I don't have the space for that myself, heh. I'd rather go for a more all-purpose TP set that focuses on multiattack, STR, attack etc outside of extraneous circumstances like really evasive monsters and the like.
Boost-STR is a common enough buff that it's worth accounting for in your TP sets, IMO.
And the DEX/Dyna DC issue is also worth accounting for if you mainly use your THF for Dynamis. The pre-salvage2 optimal sets for Mithra in there that are different than the non-Mithra ones, that's why I asked.
Taking a look at this set in perspective to higher Lv mobs, used Qilin on sheet. Same conclusion as other but I am having Love come ahead of Rancor.
Thf/War ~ Mithra
12/12 STR
12/12 DEX
RCBun - Food
Buffs - Haste, Berserk, Aggressor, Stalwart's (I don't always have brd or cor so just used what I know I would have).
And capped Thf merits. I am working on making Mandua so interested in how to gear for higher lv content playing relic thf. Came up with about the same results with slight variation. Sorry I have never been sure how to add higher lv weapons.
MS Set
These are kinda my goals: Any help updating for high end content using relic would be helpful.
Thf/War ~ Mithra
12/12 STR
12/12 DEX
RCBun - Food
Buffs - Haste, Berserk, Aggressor, Stalwart's (I don't always have brd or cor so just used what I know I would have).
And capped Thf merits. I am working on making Mandua so interested in how to gear for higher lv content playing relic thf. Came up with about the same results with slight variation. Sorry I have never been sure how to add higher lv weapons.
MS Set
These are kinda my goals: Any help updating for high end content using relic would be helpful.
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Thanks Snuke, I have always wondered that lol
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