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By Shiva.Schatzie 2012-01-06 14:24:46
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looking for assistance on a decent TP set until i get proper gear situatated over the next week or two. things i've been using to settle in:



im aware there is room for blatently obvious improvement, still looking for morbolger on the belt. things i'm mostly looking for are a good neck, ears, and body replacement until seals are done.

as for a weapon, should i make an STR magian weather one, or go for taurine cesti?

thanks for the help, its appreciated.

EDIT: forgot brutal on that set, dont mention it.
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By Cannonaire 2012-01-07 00:00:09
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Whether you go for Taurine or the Magian claws is mostly dependent on your future weapon choice; if you plan on making Verethragna or some other awesome weapon soon, the Taurine should be a good hold over. I personally made Magian claws, but I don't see myself getting anything better for a while.

Kemas Earring is pretty cheap if you still need something to complement your Brutal Earring. Also the best thing you can do for your damage in the neck slot would be to pick up a Rancor collar, assuming you have/can get the tonberry hate. Barring that, Calcitrant Stole or maybe an Agasaya's Collar if you have one would be good.
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By Bahamut.Vagrua 2012-01-07 00:39:09
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made this out of boredom:


could exchange rancor for orochi nodowa or maybe a chivalrous chain. brown belt should be quested by all mnks imo.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-01-07 01:17:59
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99% sure Hasty Pinion is a bad idea.
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-01-07 03:05:32
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
100% sure Hasty Pinion is a bad idea.
Fixed it for ya
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-01-07 03:32:18
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Horrible idea to be specific, even worse for a job whose tp/hit is more likely to benefit more from each point of store tp thrown in.
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By Bahamut.Vagrua 2012-01-07 03:47:57
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-01-07 03:50:31
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What exactly are you trying to show with those? Not only are the values incorrect, but it only proves our point.
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-01-07 03:51:02
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No. Stop using that piece of ***ammo.
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-01-07 04:00:10
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Kk forget the -stp part of the feather for a moment... you are basically saying... 1% haste in an ammo slot that has choices on mnk like Potestas Bomblet, Tantra Tathlum, Black Tathlum, Thew Bomblet, and just random things off the top of my head I came up with... which all are 100x's more beneficial than 1% haste... That 1% haste won't even come close to the dmg output over time you will use with those. I'm not even a mnk but yeah... common sense.

And with black tathlum (***I haven't even done the tp math...but pretty sure just off eyeballing) will increase your hit build when replacing that. *Again I don't play mnk but just saying.. that's better than that current ammo piece*

*edited*
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-01-07 04:07:49
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For the actual question...

Taurine Cesti/X/X/Potestas Bomblet
Tantra Crown +1/Rancor Collar/Aesir Ear Pendant/Brutal Earring
Tantra Cyclas +1/Ocelot Gloves/Rajas Ring/Epona's Ring
Atheling Mantle/Brown Belt/Tantra Hose +1/Fuma Sune-Ate

That should be absolute entry level for still being adequate. You'll eventually want to aspire to:





For weaponskills, I'm assuming that since you're entry level without access to Victory Smite you're only using MNK for Abyssea, so at least make sure to have Ascetic's Fury.



Taurine Cesti/X/X/Tantra Tathlum
Genbu's Kabuto/Rancor Collar/Kemas Earring/Brutal Earring
Tantra Cyclas +1/Heafoc Mitts/Spiral Ring/Epona's Ring
Atheling Mantle/Warwolf Belt/Shura Haidate/Tantra Gaiters +1

Easy to get gear and a decent WS setup until you get more advanced gear options.
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By Bahamut.Vagrua 2012-01-07 04:14:52
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Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Kk forget the -stp part of the feather for a moment... you are basically saying... 1% haste in an ammo slot that has choices on mnk like Potestas Bomblet, Tantra Tathlum, Black Tathlum, Thew Bomblet, and just random things off the top of my head I came up with... which all are 100x's more beneficial than 1% haste... That 1% haste won't even come close to the dmg output over time you will use with those. I'm not even a mnk but yeah... common sense.

And with black tathlum (***I haven't even done the tp math...but pretty sure just off eyeballing) will increase your hit build when replacing that. *Again I don't play mnk but just saying.. that's better than that current ammo piece*

*edited*

Did you take into consideration what I switched out from the set that was given in the opening post? The matter is that of a set that is obtainable at this moment with what he can get ahold of via Auction House. He already said he was working on seals so I'm sure he could upgrade his gear further in the future to replace items such as that atrocious ammo I suggested.

I only threw out the best I could think of from the given situation. It's only meant to be an opinionated set. If you have other sets, feel free to post yours.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-01-07 04:18:44
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The ammo is a downgrade. Hasty Pinion is useless for melee. Its only virtue lies in being usable by mage jobs that cannot utilize a fast cast ammo.

On top of the loss of Store TP, which is rather substantial in itself, you also lose 15 attack, all for a fraction of 1% haste.
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-01-07 04:28:32
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Bahamut.Vagrua said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Kk forget the -stp part of the feather for a moment... you are basically saying... 1% haste in an ammo slot that has choices on mnk like Potestas Bomblet, Tantra Tathlum, Black Tathlum, Thew Bomblet, and just random things off the top of my head I came up with... which all are 100x's more beneficial than 1% haste... That 1% haste won't even come close to the dmg output over time you will use with those. I'm not even a mnk but yeah... common sense.

And with black tathlum (***I haven't even done the tp math...but pretty sure just off eyeballing) will increase your hit build when replacing that. *Again I don't play mnk but just saying.. that's better than that current ammo piece*

*edited*

Did you take into consideration what I switched out from the set that was given in the opening post? The matter is that of a set that is obtainable at this moment with what he can get ahold of via Auction House. He already said he was working on seals so I'm sure he could upgrade his gear further in the future to replace items such as that atrocious ammo I suggested.

I only threw out the best I could think of from the given situation. It's only meant to be an opinionated set. If you have other sets, feel free to post yours.

I did... and I saw... look at the bold.... the thew bomblet I put back in there from what you took out... saying.. no it's not better... I fail to see your point
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By Bahamut.Vagrua 2012-01-07 04:30:58
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Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Bahamut.Vagrua said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Kk forget the -stp part of the feather for a moment... you are basically saying... 1% haste in an ammo slot that has choices on mnk like Potestas Bomblet, Tantra Tathlum, Black Tathlum, Thew Bomblet, and just random things off the top of my head I came up with... which all are 100x's more beneficial than 1% haste... That 1% haste won't even come close to the dmg output over time you will use with those. I'm not even a mnk but yeah... common sense.

And with black tathlum (***I haven't even done the tp math...but pretty sure just off eyeballing) will increase your hit build when replacing that. *Again I don't play mnk but just saying.. that's better than that current ammo piece*

*edited*

Did you take into consideration what I switched out from the set that was given in the opening post? The matter is that of a set that is obtainable at this moment with what he can get ahold of via Auction House. He already said he was working on seals so I'm sure he could upgrade his gear further in the future to replace items such as that atrocious ammo I suggested.

I only threw out the best I could think of from the given situation. It's only meant to be an opinionated set. If you have other sets, feel free to post yours.

I did... and I saw... look at the bold.... the thew bomblet I put back in there from what you took out... saying.. no it's not better... I fail to see your point

He loses his 26% haste build.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-01-07 04:33:32
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Let's think about this.

A fraction of 1% Haste (0.5859375 to be exact using the set I posted higher up, though it's late and my brain no think so possible I mistepped in the mathy bits, someone will probably point it out if so)

vs.

15 Attack and 5 Store TP


Moreso the loss of attack than the loss of Store TP, however both are factors.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2012-01-07 09:54:51
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Listen to Prothescar
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By Ragnarok.Corres 2012-01-07 10:31:45
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is faith torque still ok to wear with bruiser's combined and maxed h2h merits? just asking since i have no rancor collar.
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2012-01-07 10:40:19
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Ragnarok.Corres said: »
is faith torque still ok to wear with bruiser's combined and maxed h2h merits? just asking since i have no rancor collar.
It breaks another damage tier. I'd say it's worth it as long as you don't have Rancor collar.

I'd also assume that combo + Rancor Cape would probably do better than any combo with Rancor Collar. But don't take my word on that.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2012-01-08 15:50:30
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1 dmg tier isn't going to beat 3% DA, you're better off w/ rancor collar and atheling
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2012-01-08 16:06:24
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Ragnarok.Corres said: »
is faith torque still ok to wear with bruiser's combined and maxed h2h merits? just asking since i have no rancor collar.
Luckily there is an easy fix, buy a Rancor Collar.
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By Shiva.Schatzie 2012-01-08 21:02:25
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and if im tanking, should i wear something like chiv chain instead of rancor?
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2012-01-08 21:48:25
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Agasaya's Collar works well as a middleground between effort and reward.
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By Fenrir.Skadoosh 2012-01-08 21:58:21
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Shiva.Schatzie said: »
and if im tanking, should i wear something like chiv chain instead of rancor?
backlash torque is pretty easy to get
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