Nerfed Victory Smite Testing

I did some very crude VS work on the test server to at least get some taste for the nerf. I was fighting Pil as MNK99/SAM49.
-Impetus/boost not used on any WS's/throughout testing (Impetus up would have been pretty much pointless since I could only survive for 60 seconds with fanatic's and was barely auto-attacking the whole time anyway).
-Champion's/Stalwarts/Braver's Tonics all used; TP between 100-115 for all WS's.
-Food: Sole Sushi

If anyone else has any numbers to share, please post them here to help determine where VS now sits in the dmg spectrum.

Well you may just be really low on atk, /sam and accuracy food. Still sounds like a decent nerf though.

Yeah; I think /sam and sushi are the most relevant for VW testing though since the mobs have absurdly high evasion and /sam for proc spam.

I don't know about you, but I'm always /war and my acc is fine on anything but T6. Mages are our only proc *** unless it's something extremely/highly, proc and zerg. Pizza would be far more relevant than sushi if anything. Alternate focus/aggressor, and use acc gear as needed.

I'll pop a Pil and a T6 later and HF them to parse my accuracy. I have been trying to find the sweet spot of exactly where acc caps out with/without stalwart's, and you are more than likely spot on with the switch to pizza given the accuracy available from gear and temps.

Not really, no.

Also, given the unknowns involved in Voidwatch NM stats, the variability of 1-hit WS, and the fact that they specifically nerfed critrate this isn't a particularly good testing method. Establishing the new critrate via a test in Abyssea with very high critrate and adjusting until you find the maximum critrate at which you get a non-crit with a decent sample size would give us a much better idea of how it was changed.

This information is all from MarkovChain on the official forums pertaining to the new crit rate.

"VS is now likely 15% crit at 100 tp.

Ok I tested VS' innate crit rate. I did plenty of WS on even match sand sweeper, without killing them, without mutiattack, without gorget etc. Since BG wiki average pdif formula are wrong I had to do a samples for crit hits and non crit hit.

Atmas : RR/GH/SS : with dex bonus it gives 75% crit rate total and 60% crit damage
stats : PUP99/THF49 564 Att, 172 STR, 208 dex (irrelevant), 127 vit


victory smite sample=[3552, 2732, 3098, 3902, 3169, 2652, 3328, 3616, 3815, 3074, 3592, 3618, 2267, 2844, 3535, 2490, 3100, 3554, 2950, 3675, 3724, 2715, 3079, 2604, 2467, 3291, 3224, 3676, 3343, 2781, 3351, 1797, 2429, 3705, 3215, 3029, 3699, 3032, 3229, 3004, 2313, 1899, 2760, 2967, 3161, 3333, 2401, 3119, 3041, 3814, 3725, 2114, 3026, 3437, 1766, 2809, 2775, 2491, 3200, 1963, 3803, 3137, 2079, 3218, 3403, 3578, 2544, 3505, 2748, 3363, 2664, 3827, 3697,2852,3916,2724,3548,3298]
78 weapon skills
average : 3076.60 +/- 119 (the error should be lower as each ws is 4 rolls, so it's probably half of that)

Crit sample:[318,384,344,396,339,406,400,368,697,326,369,422,417,324,369,353,363,400,348,396,353,360,361,379,401,417,353,312,427,326,416,345,412,304,344,420,340,356,356,380,214,329,344,404,382,395,332,361,302,339,393,414,321,409,400,323,360,308,395,312,398,379,342,419,340,318,366,360,412,339,380,395,360,318,408,297,360,329,320,396,323,358,366,316,315,396,374,419,300,337,406,355,347,358,340,379,366,363,340,392,406,320,340,408,387,398,416,377,412,337,361,358,350,315,323,321,353,308,240,348,328,336,328,339,326,404,374,308,331,414,360,305,313,372,324,388,412,401,342,390,329,334,339,347,428,427]
146 crits,
average : mc=362.33 +/- 7.7

non crits=[103,155,123,101,101,100,103,103,100,135,117,105,113,100,105,102,155,105,100,147,101,100,130,105,144,104,105,133,104,152,141,147,100,103,139,112,143,104,104,154,101,117,102,145,102,103,129,107,109,127,101,101,100,100,105,102,105,101,134,105,101,124,151,103,108,100,157,146,103,149,109,105,140,104,104,106,106,153,100,105,104,103,150,140,109,117,120,108,113,117,105,152,147,103,101,104,108,136,107,125,130,153,101,103,101,140,156,104,129,137,138,100,132,103,116,102,150,117,154,142,139,103,105]
123 hits
average : m1=117.82 +/- 3.37

My WSD is WSC:=floor(432*0.11)+3+12+39+floor(0.85*(floor(0.32*172)+floor(0.32*127)))=181
(using 432 skill and D+39 weapon)

(2.25+3)*WSC*(0.90*mc*1.6+0.10*m1)*0.95=3020.007026 if 15% crit rate
(2.25+3)*WSC*(0.85*mc*1.6+0.15*m1)*0.95=2910.733566 if 10% crit rate
(2.25+3)*WSC*(0.95*mc*1.6+0.05*m1)*0.95=3129.280486 if 20% crit rate

Well since I find 3076 it can be either 15% or 20%, it cannot be less, and it's likely 15% since my CI should be lower than what I have due to one ws being 4 hits. Did they ajust it yet or not ? If they did it means the maths done that usually assumed 15% crit are wrong but now are right lol. It could be that they nerfed it from 20% to 15%. 25% to 20% is impossible since it was previously tested with atmas to be impossible by gokku."

I was under assumption VS gave 15% innate crit rate bonus@100 tp pre-nerf. I gotta say I am positively surprised.

Accord to Mocchi, VS is actually 10% crit rate after nerf.
Victory Smite
15% / 30% / 60% [unadjusted state]
　↓
[Test Server] 10% / 20% / 35%

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/18579-dev1064-%E3%82%A6%E3%83%83%E3%82%B3%E3%80%81%E3%83%93%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9%E3%83%9E%E5%BC%B1%E4%BD%93?p=252787#post252787

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