The Last Dance: Gearing Paradigms For A New Age

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 Lakshmi.Byrth
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-01-02 06:44:33
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Can you test if Coruscanti affects both hands or only the Coruscanti hand, please?
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2012-01-02 12:50:39
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Can you test if Coruscanti affects both hands or only the Coruscanti hand, please?
i havent done a thorough test myself since i assumed it would just be the hand its equipped but just by eyeballing it, looks like it's only increasing that hand. Sorry i would do an actual test but i can no longer log in at the moment.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 13:48:05
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Can you test if Coruscanti affects both hands or only the Coruscanti hand, please?

Best way to do this would be to one-shot mandies in Saru with the main hand, right?
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-01-02 14:19:53
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The Abyssea method should work. Get your critical hit rate up to the point where Coruscanti would put you at exactly 100%, and see if your main hand is able to score non-crits.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 14:29:45
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Fenrir.Minjo said: »
The Abyssea method should work. Get your critical hit rate up to the point where Coruscanti would put you at exactly 100%, and see if your main hand is able to score non-crits.

That would have been so much less time consuming than the 100 saruta mobs I just killed, but I'm missing a Salvage chariot :(

Or possibly 2, I don't know, I've done Salvage a total of 3 times ever.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 15:54:43
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Oh wait, duh, Rancor Mantle should take me to 95% crit rate with Razed Ruins / Gnarled Horn / Scorpion Queen. *retard*
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 16:08:39
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Using Razed Ruins, Gnarled Horn, Scorpion Queen + Rancor Mantle, still able to land non-critical hits with mainhand.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-01-02 16:11:22
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30+20+20+10+5?
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 16:13:17
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25% (base) + 5% (merits) + 30% (RR) + 20% (GH) + 10% (SQ) +5% (Mantle) = 95%

If Coruscanti's +5% were affecting mainhand, I'd have 100% crit rate. But I don't.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-01-02 16:14:58
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Ah, forgot merits, but could've sworn base crit rate was 20% when capped.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 16:17:12
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
Ah, forgot merits, but could've sworn base crit rate was 20% when capped.

It's highly possible I'm HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
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By Bismarck.Cicada 2012-01-02 16:18:22
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Cerberus.Tikal said: »
Ah, forgot merits, but could've sworn base crit rate was 20% when capped.

It's highly possible I'm HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
Imma + this.. >.> only cause it made me laugh.. not cause I think you're tarded. 8V
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-01-02 16:18:39
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I do ***like that all the time. /comfort
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 16:20:15
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Yeah, it's 20%, in which case it actually looks like Coruscanti is affecting mainhand crit rate, too.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 16:23:26
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And I just tested to be sure, I *am* able to land non-crits with the Coruscanti.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-01-02 16:24:46
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Wait. If you're able to land non-crits with 100% crit rate, doesn't that mean that the Crit bonus on Coruscanti doesn't work in the offhand at all?

Or do you mean it doesn't affect your main hand?
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 16:25:28
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This kind of fits with what I saw against my 200 mandies in Saruta, too.

Crits: 64

Non Crits: 136
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-01-02 16:32:48
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I like any topic that has the word "paradigms" in the title... (and with Sylow).

That is all.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 16:39:59
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Wait, I don't know, I think I'm confusing myself.

Okay.

20 (base) + 5 (merits) + 30 (RR) + 20(SS) + 10(SQ) + 5(Mantle) = 90% Before Corusc.
Corusc. (+5%) --> 95% crit rate.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-01-02 16:43:57
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Yeah, so... either find an additional 5% crit rate somewhere, or math it out and make sure its 5% crit rate you're missing. Mathing it out will be hard though, since you'll have to exclude all off-hand hits.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 17:01:26
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Anyway, I ran out of visitant status not paying attention but:

1418 attacks in Abyssea with 90% crit rate on Mainhand and +5% on offhand (Coruscanti):


Melee Crit Damage
Player #Crit C.Low/Hi C-0.Avg Crit%
Sylow 1351 14/274 205.79 95.28 %

Crit rate should approach the average of the two hands if the +5% is only applying to one hand (92.5%)

That's not what I'm seeing here, although I'm not sure if the sample is large enough to exclude either case.

Definitely warrants further testing. But at this stage it looks like it's affecting both hands.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-01-02 17:11:44
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You can force a 100% Crit rate:
Merits+Base+dDEX+Razed Ruins+Gnarled Horn+Dark Depths = 95%
95% + Coruscanti = 100%

If you crit 608 times with Something/Coruscanti, then it's a 100% crit rate on each hand.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 17:12:21
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I don't have Dark Depths :(
DNC can't wear anything from Salvage :D
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-01-02 17:17:06
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Okay, well 1351/1418 = 95.28% +/- 1.6% (halved the sample size to compensate for only half the hits coming from Coruscanti)

Still, it looks like Coruscanti's Crit rate affects both hands. This makes me wonder about Senju and stuff.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 17:21:55
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Oh, I can try that new Kacura crap to force 100%
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 17:23:58
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Or I could just get a larger sample size instead of spending 3 mil! Give me a target N!
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-01-02 17:26:35
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Lux Purgio mainhand and another +1% critical hit rate would cap you.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 17:29:09
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
Lux Purgio mainhand and another +1% critical hit rate would cap you.

I never got NQ dagger from Qilin, lol. I got a gorget the same run as Coruscanti, but before that I had never even gotten HMPs from him.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-02 18:08:55
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Anyway, gonna get ~3000 hits and see what gives.
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By mortontony1 2012-01-02 18:25:01
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Pants question. I have Alcide's subligar (doesn't look like a sub thank God) for EVA, but what about normal TP set? I have Calmecac and Charis +1. Would the loss of 1 haste be made up by the 2 of DA and TA?
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