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 Ragnarok.Hyshio
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By Ragnarok.Hyshio 2011-12-13 00:38:21
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To all windower users. As you know the next update is this Wed. I need you're help in finishing the fixes to the previous resources.xml. I know last update some spells didnt match elementals and some didnt exist at all. A lot of us devs have been busy with other windower related things and also rl issues.

I need everyone who uses windower and has everything up to date to point out what needs to be fixed. This goes big for Blue Mage spells.
All of the blu spells last update came up as fire spells. POL utils needs a serious overhaul but we don't have the time to fix the program. Also this will be for english only for now. All other languages will be done later.

Want to get a head start on this before the update. Any help is appreciated.

If you are not sure you are up to date do the following:

In game via plugin console: updateresources
In game via game chat: //updateresources
Then update the resources.xml manually by right clicking the link below and save it as into the plugin folder.

resources.xml

Thank you for supporting windower and thank you for understanding the situation.
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By Bahamut.Bekisa 2011-12-13 01:40:18
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I'll see if I can lend a hand. Classes just ended and work has calmed down until after the New Year.

Now for something that isn't said enough --

You guys do awesome work. Sadly I bet most users don't think twice all the hard work and hours you all put into Windower to make our FFXI experience much more enjoyable. Even worse, some users probably expect you to fix it like it was service they paid for! i.e. OMG WTF my plugins are broken and I don't care if the update just came out 30 seconds ago!! I want to AFK in Port Jeuno with my plugins all on now!!

Spend time with your families this holiday season and if you find yourself in the mood to stare at some code -- by all means, you know where to find it :-)

Thanks for the many past years of support!
*Windower user since 2005*
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By Ramuh.Scizor 2011-12-13 01:48:03
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Not sure if im being dense or not...but were you supposed to include a link in your post?
 Ragnarok.Hyshio
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By Ragnarok.Hyshio 2011-12-13 02:16:26
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bah long night forgot it.

K fixed
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By Phoenix.Darkzeru 2011-12-13 02:27:22
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Not sure if'll be of much help since I don't use much of mage jobs but I'll try to look around if I spot something that's wrong.
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By Siren.Balias 2011-12-13 07:40:38
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I was planning on getting ninja to 99 first, guess I'll do blu second and see how windower behaves with that job. See you then...
 Ragnarok.Hyshio
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By Ragnarok.Hyshio 2011-12-13 11:59:14
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Siren.Balias said: »
I was planning on getting ninja to 99 first, guess I'll do blu second and see how windower behaves with that job. See you then...

While that is nice and all and I do appreciate the support. However I'd like to get all the problems from last major update cleared away before I start the new ones.
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By mortontony1 2011-12-13 12:08:45
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So will this mean my recast will work again? Things like warrior's charge are all on "Unknown-ability" names.
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By Ragnarok.Hyshio 2011-12-13 12:13:05
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mortontony1 said: »
So will this mean my recast will work again? Things like warrior's charge are all on "Unknown-ability" names.

Actually those things already work. You just need to update you're stuff.
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By mortontony1 2011-12-13 12:14:43
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Ragnarok.Hyshio said: »
mortontony1 said: »
So will this mean my recast will work again? Things like warrior's charge are all on "Unknown-ability" names.

Actually those things already work. You just need to update you're stuff.

How/where? I got the most recent version on the windower website. At least I thought I did.
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By Fenrir.Yuriki 2011-12-13 12:16:20
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mortontony1 said: »
Ragnarok.Hyshio said: »
mortontony1 said: »
So will this mean my recast will work again? Things like warrior's charge are all on "Unknown-ability" names.

Actually those things already work. You just need to update you're stuff.

How/where? I got the most recent version on the windower website. At least I thought I did.
In game via plugin console: updateresources
In game via game chat: //updateresources
Then update the resources.xml manually by right clicking the link below and save it as into the plugin folder.

resources.xml

Do this. I had the same issue. It works!
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 Ragnarok.Hyshio
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By Ragnarok.Hyshio 2011-12-13 12:38:05
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Yea I know its HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE to do both but we plan on fixing this in 3.5 where you can download it in one shot and where it will do it automatically.
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By mortontony1 2011-12-13 12:43:24
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Very nice thanks guys!
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2011-12-13 12:57:15
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Fenrir.Yuriki said: »
mortontony1 said: »
Ragnarok.Hyshio said: »
mortontony1 said: »
So will this mean my recast will work again? Things like warrior's charge are all on "Unknown-ability" names.

Actually those things already work. You just need to update you're stuff.

How/where? I got the most recent version on the windower website. At least I thought I did.
In game via plugin console: updateresources
In game via game chat: //updateresources
Then update the resources.xml manually by right clicking the link below and save it as into the plugin folder.

resources.xml

Do this. I had the same issue. It works!

HAHAHAHAHA [+] doesn't cover how funny and good that is!
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2011-12-13 13:06:38
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I have a windower question.


How do I get it where recast shows the new spells and whatnot? I'm still seeing unknown ability for old school stuff like fan dance for dnc and uh ... I guess a few other things.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-12-13 13:11:23
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Leviathan.Catnipthief said: »
I have a windower question.


How do I get it where recast shows the new spells and whatnot? I'm still seeing unknown ability for old school stuff like fan dance for dnc and uh ... I guess a few other things.
You need to update resources. There is file called resources.xml in your plugins folder that is out of date.

The link in the bottom of Hyshio's post has the current resources. Just save it over your current one.
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By Siren.Fallfromgrace 2011-12-13 13:14:37
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Fenrir.Yuriki said: »
mortontony1 said: »
Ragnarok.Hyshio said: »
mortontony1 said: »
So will this mean my recast will work again? Things like warrior's charge are all on "Unknown-ability" names.

Actually those things already work. You just need to update you're stuff.

How/where? I got the most recent version on the windower website. At least I thought I did.
In game via plugin console: updateresources
In game via game chat: //updateresources
Then update the resources.xml manually by right clicking the link below and save it as into the plugin folder.

resources.xml

Do this. I had the same issue. It works!
I'm not seeing a link.
 Ragnarok.Sekundes
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-12-13 13:19:01
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Siren.Fallfromgrace said: »
I'm not seeing a link.
http://resources.windower.net/resources.xml
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By Carbuncle.Wulfshadow 2011-12-13 13:30:13
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I might be a bit confused as to what you want us to do, but would it be something along the lines of looking at stuff like this?:
Code xml
<entry id="712" index="689" prefix="/magic" english="Dark Orb" 
german="Dunkle Sphäre" french="Orbe noir" japanese="ダークオーブ" 
type="BlueMagic" element="Dark" targets="Enemy"
 skill="BlueMagic" mpcost="124" casttime="7" recast="8"/>


The recast on Dark Orb is a lot longer than 8 seconds, wiki has it at 1 minute and 12 seconds while the cast time is 9 seconds base instead of 7. Again, idk if this is what you're talking about.
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By Carbuncle.Wulfshadow 2011-12-13 13:47:48
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Also, this isn't so much an error as it is something preemptive to maybe prevent an error on Wednesday:
Code xml
<entry id="1021" index="900" prefix="/weaponskill" english="Barbed Crescent" german="Stachel-Halbmond" 
french="Croissant barbelé" japanese="偃月刃" type="WeaponSkill" element="None" targets="Enemy"
skill="Ability" mpcost="0" tpcost="-1" casttime="0" recast="0"/>


the next update will have this as a blue magic spell, and I know stuff like this is used by people to trigger things such as gear swaps etc., but you might want to be aware this could cause some issues if you forget it.

Again, really sorry if this isn't what you're asking for help with, I'm trying to just look over it fast before I go back to studying.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-12-13 14:01:30
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Carbuncle.Wulfshadow said: »
I might be a bit confused as to what you want us to do, but would it be something along the lines of looking at stuff like this?:
Code xml
<entry id="712" index="689" prefix="/magic" english="Dark Orb" 
german="Dunkle Sphäre" french="Orbe noir" japanese="ダークオーブ" 
type="BlueMagic" element="Dark" targets="Enemy"
 skill="BlueMagic" mpcost="124" casttime="7" recast="8"/>


The recast on Dark Orb is a lot longer than 8 seconds, wiki has it at 1 minute and 12 seconds while the cast time is 9 seconds base instead of 7. Again, idk if this is what you're talking about.
Pretty much. Anything that is off or incorrect needs to be adjusted since, if I'm correct, the automatic method isn't working any longer and is pulling bad info.

Carbuncle.Wulfshadow said:
the next update will have this as a blue magic spell

The blue magic spell will be under magic and will use a prefix of /ma barbed crescent rather than /ws barbed crescent. I'm thinking that should be fine but I'm no expert on it.
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By Siren.Fallfromgrace 2011-12-13 14:08:55
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Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
Siren.Fallfromgrace said: »
I'm not seeing a link.
http://resources.windower.net/resources.xml
Thanks!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2011-12-13 14:14:44
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Give this man a purple bar!
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By Qubic 2011-12-13 14:16:23
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I did a check on the spell file, and Breakga is the only spell I'm aware of that's still missing from the latest resource as of this morning.

I can confirm that all post-90 BLU spells are there, and that the element and MP cost attributes looks correct in reference to game. Would you just eyeball casting time?
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By Ragnarok.Hyshio 2011-12-13 14:20:39
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Yes this is the exact info I need. Keep them coming.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-12-13 14:52:06
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Qubic said: »
I did a check on the spell file, and Breakga is the only spell I'm aware of that's still missing from the latest resource as of this morning.

I can confirm that all post-90 BLU spells are there, and that the element and MP cost attributes looks correct in reference to game. Would you just eyeball casting time?
I'm unsure on if there is a better method for the cast time and recast. Technically, not all spells are even whole numbers for cast or recast time so getting an exact number isn't going to always happen. Not that it's going to matter too much but some applications such as spellcast use this file as a base line for when to place aftercast gear on so if it is too far off you might end up casting in idle gear or idling for long after the spell has gone off in your casting gear.

A good computer with fraps in a low lag area can get a pretty accurate number on both cast and recast time(recast is easy since it's displayed but make sure you look through the menu and not on recast as it can be up to a second off) but you may have to account for fastcast on some jobs. Just make sure you do all tests with no gear on, a sub with no fastcast, if you're blu, make sure the fastcast trait isn't set.

If I was on the test server I'd take care of all the new blu spells but I'm holding on to my credit card payment as long as I can... Freaking hate the other options.

I'll check over some of the things I do have access to once I get home.
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By Phoenix.Qubic 2011-12-13 14:57:00
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The recast times for the bard abilities Pianissimo and Tenuto have shortened from fifteen seconds to five.

The abil file doesn't reflect this. (Does it matter? not sure what/where this is used even). Anyways, all the post-90 job abilities seems to be in place. I didn't check the attributes in great detail though.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2011-12-13 15:03:44
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Phoenix.Qubic said: »
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The recast times for the bard abilities Pianissimo and Tenuto have shortened from fifteen seconds to five.

The abil file doesn't reflect this. (Does it matter? not sure what/where this is used even). Anyways, all the post-90 job abilities seems to be in place. I didn't check the attributes in great detail though.
Not a huge deal, I'm not sure if ja recasts are used for anything since windower just reads the game's recast for them but in my ocd orneryness, I'd say yes, it should be corrected.
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By Siren.Fallfromgrace 2011-12-13 22:01:52
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I've tried to update 3 times now and it's just not taking it. I get the message in windower that resources have been updated, but after I save the link, the file doesn't appear to be changing.
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By Bismarck.Jeracob 2011-12-13 22:42:34
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It's late and I'm tired so I may be wrong about this, but I believe restraint is missing.
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