11-28-2011 04:15 PM
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| In regards to Regen spells, we don’t have any plans to limit them to scholars only, but we are looking to largely reduce their casting time for scholars. As long as no critical bugs crop up, we’re hoping to implement everything in the next Test Server update so you can test it out (recast timers won’t change). Here is a compiled list of the content:
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[Dev] SCH - In Regards To Regen Spells
[Dev] SCH - In Regards to Regen Spells
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They dont want to give out Cure V, but they still want sch to cure effectively.
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why am i not excited about this
Ehhh. Better than nothing...
Maybe if they make something like Modus Veritas that worked on Regen with a relatively low recast that'd be cool (say ~20sec recast?). They should just give us damn Cure V.
Maybe if they make something like Modus Veritas that worked on Regen with a relatively low recast that'd be cool (say ~20sec recast?). They should just give us damn Cure V.
or they could not give helix to subjobs, just saying
They need to change the system in such a way that giving away proc-spells/abilities does not render a job useless. Obviously this isn't going to happen, and obviously they're not going change their minds about helices. :/ idfkman :(
Seems bit odd to give Regen as SCH only for the highest tier, was always a white mage spell.
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Seems bit odd to give Regen as SCH only for the highest tier, was always a white mage spell.
It honestly doesn't make much sense. I guess because Regen is a tactical spell? Dunno. Would have made more sense giving SCH Cure V in Addendum:White.
Not that I agree with it, but from the developer's POV, it makes sense. Its along the lines of a curative helix.
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if thats the pov, im pretty sure regen 5 will be given away as a subjob too.
Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Seems bit odd to give Regen as SCH only for the highest tier, was always a white mage spell.
In that Regen was first given to RDM, then later to WHM... Yup!
Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu said: »
why am i not excited about this
I'm very excited about this! I played with it on the test server and I don't recall if it was the exact number or not, but I believe Regen V was 64 tick with head +2, and duration was 1:45. It was more than Embrava, I remember that for sure =o
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this is good news alliance regen5 increase potency and duration!
Personally, I'm happy with anything they give to the job at this point. I'm not happy when they take stuff away (storm exclusivity, helix exclusivity, MV nerf). I've played games where potent regen healers were pretty good (Bards in Rift come to mind), so we'll see how this turns out in the end.
I don't know what people are complaining about. Last time I was on the test server (with AF3+2) Regen 4 was lasting 4½ mins with Perpetuance doing 58hp/tick. And apparently Regen V is the same duration @64hp/tick. Accession that across your PT,... don't forget you can still use Cure 4 to supplement it.
Not to mention Embrava + Regen.
Or, imagine how much easier a WHM's job will be in Voidwatch with a SCH Regening the whole alliance. The mp savings! :o
(Oh yeah, the helices thing still sucks though.)
Not to mention Embrava + Regen.
Or, imagine how much easier a WHM's job will be in Voidwatch with a SCH Regening the whole alliance. The mp savings! :o
(Oh yeah, the helices thing still sucks though.)
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On the the test server atm.
Regen V
Potency: _ 69hp/tick - (with Light Arts & AF3+2 Hat.)
Duration: _ 4:30 - (Perpetuance with AF3+2 Hands.)
MP:______ 90mp - (down from 100mp base)
Recast: __ 28sec - (base)
About 3sec to cast
SCH99 gets 420 Enhancing Skill in Light Arts.
I get 452 in AF1/2/3 for; 65hp/tick Embrava.
Regen V
Potency: _ 69hp/tick - (with Light Arts & AF3+2 Hat.)
Duration: _ 4:30 - (Perpetuance with AF3+2 Hands.)
MP:______ 90mp - (down from 100mp base)
Recast: __ 28sec - (base)
About 3sec to cast
SCH99 gets 420 Enhancing Skill in Light Arts.
I get 452 in AF1/2/3 for; 65hp/tick Embrava.
Phoenix.Eckeward said: »
On the the test server atm.
Regen V
Potency: _ 69hp/tick - (with Light Arts & AF3+2 Hat.)
Duration: _ 4:30 - (Perpetuance with AF3+2 Hands.)
MP:______ 90mp - (down from 100mp base)
Recast: __ 28sec - (base)
About 3sec to cast
SCH99 gets 420 Enhancing Skill in Light Arts.
I get 452 in AF1/2/3 for; 65hp/tick Embrava.
Regen V
Potency: _ 69hp/tick - (with Light Arts & AF3+2 Hat.)
Duration: _ 4:30 - (Perpetuance with AF3+2 Hands.)
MP:______ 90mp - (down from 100mp base)
Recast: __ 28sec - (base)
About 3sec to cast
SCH99 gets 420 Enhancing Skill in Light Arts.
I get 452 in AF1/2/3 for; 65hp/tick Embrava.
6210HP for 90MP <_<
And 37,260 if you can AoE it.
idk how much it reflects in the test server atm, but SE said several time that they are making helixes more reflected by higher level and magic skill, so a 99rdm/49sch helix wouldn't come close that of a 99sch/rdm.
also... i think i remember them saying they are still working on making it more effective when its high level sch main, so i think its still not showing on the test server the way they will have it... i think what i just said makes sense >.> i've seen the devs explain this before but people still mad about it, so thought i'd say that
also... i think i remember them saying they are still working on making it more effective when its high level sch main, so i think its still not showing on the test server the way they will have it... i think what i just said makes sense >.> i've seen the devs explain this before but people still mad about it, so thought i'd say that
Fenrir.Minjo said: »
Not that I agree with it, but from the developer's POV, it makes sense. Its along the lines of a curative helix.
I couldn't agree more. SCH's usefulness does seem to revolve around x over time. I'm glad they got something useful that set them apart from a meh whm or a decent blm.
Bismarck.Patrik said: »
idk how much it reflects in the test server atm, but SE said several time that they are making helixes more reflected by higher level and magic skill, so a 99rdm/49sch helix wouldn't come close that of a 99sch/rdm.
also... i think i remember them saying they are still working on making it more effective when its high level sch main, so i think its still not showing on the test server the way they will have it... i think what i just said makes sense >.> i've seen the devs explain this before but people still mad about it, so thought i'd say that
also... i think i remember them saying they are still working on making it more effective when its high level sch main, so i think its still not showing on the test server the way they will have it... i think what i just said makes sense >.> i've seen the devs explain this before but people still mad about it, so thought i'd say that
helix changes are suppose to already be on the test server, some people have tested those and compared to regen the boost seemed severely lacking to say the least (at least until mod verita is fixed) at least in terms of practical applications
Phoenix.Eckeward said: »
On the the test server atm.
Regen V
Potency: _ 69hp/tick - (with Light Arts & AF3+2 Hat.)
Duration: _ 4:30 - (Perpetuance with AF3+2 Hands.)
MP:______ 90mp - (down from 100mp base)
Recast: __ 28sec - (base)
About 3sec to cast
SCH99 gets 420 Enhancing Skill in Light Arts.
I get 452 in AF1/2/3 for; 65hp/tick Embrava.
Regen V
Potency: _ 69hp/tick - (with Light Arts & AF3+2 Hat.)
Duration: _ 4:30 - (Perpetuance with AF3+2 Hands.)
MP:______ 90mp - (down from 100mp base)
Recast: __ 28sec - (base)
About 3sec to cast
SCH99 gets 420 Enhancing Skill in Light Arts.
I get 452 in AF1/2/3 for; 65hp/tick Embrava.
Awesome! makes me sad whm doesn't doesn't get it. QQ
Sylph.Annex said: »
Phoenix.Eckeward said: »
On the the test server atm.
Regen V
Potency: _ 69hp/tick - (with Light Arts & AF3+2 Hat.)
Duration: _ 4:30 - (Perpetuance with AF3+2 Hands.)
MP:______ 90mp - (down from 100mp base)
Recast: __ 28sec - (base)
About 3sec to cast
SCH99 gets 420 Enhancing Skill in Light Arts.
I get 452 in AF1/2/3 for; 65hp/tick Embrava.
Regen V
Potency: _ 69hp/tick - (with Light Arts & AF3+2 Hat.)
Duration: _ 4:30 - (Perpetuance with AF3+2 Hands.)
MP:______ 90mp - (down from 100mp base)
Recast: __ 28sec - (base)
About 3sec to cast
SCH99 gets 420 Enhancing Skill in Light Arts.
I get 452 in AF1/2/3 for; 65hp/tick Embrava.
Awesome! makes me sad whm doesn't doesn't get it. QQ
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I almost never used Regen to be honest. Always seemed that I wasted more MP using it.
Love those numbers though, glad SCH is getting it and able to cast it on other parties in the alliance. Looking forward to that.
Leviathan.Draylo said: »
Seems bit odd to give Regen as SCH only for the highest tier, was always a white mage spell.
except for the fact that since sch was first introduced its always had lower level requirements for regen than whm
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Even if WHM was the lowest level I personally don't feel like we lost anything. SCH needs to get more involved in the current party situations.
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Regen's terrible duration coupled with its longer than normal cast time was what kept me from using it much. If it was 2 minutes or more it'd have been more worth it but keeping regen up on more than 1 person with everything else you have to do just gets to be a bit annoying. 4:30 duration, even given buffs, is very nice though the recast does kinda suck. A few pieces of haste gear in there and it wouldn't be that bad. Overall I'm pretty impressed though.
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