Cloudsplitter WS Set.

Curious to the hardcore bsts that have this axe, what is your WS setup. Some random questions about this set.

Uggalepih Pendant better then Thunder Gorget?
How much of a mofiyer is MND vs. MAB?

Use rampage,cloubsplitter is good against some mobs that are strong against phy. attks but otherwise its not worth using.

He asked for advice on how to gear not when to use.

So why didnt u give one?

Why are you posting off topic crap in this thread, then?

Outside abyssea I thought it's a rather good ws?
Might be a bit weaker than Rampage but the aftermath should make up for that?
I remember primal rend beeing a pretty good WS with a solid build back at 75?
Cloudsplitter does have a bit lower ftp at 100tp, but way better mods

Aaaand sorry if it's too offtopic

I have my set up now if u want to look, sry idk how to post it here, i know some pieces can be better but idc.

I'm working on guttler thats how dissapointed i am with farsha.

It's an elemental WS, so Magic Attack bonus affects it, can pretty much guarantee mab earrings are way better.
Also pretty sure ugga. pendant is better with latent active, which also means artemis medal is probably a good bet aswell during the right moonphases.
Don't really think BST gets too much MAB beyond that tho? =/

Edit: MND and STR have the same % mod, so basicly any bigger number should win out (as it's a magical ws and attack does nothing blabla)
So in other words, af3+2 body does nothing for you.
Jingang hose and twilight stuff would probably be upgrades aswell.
But yeah, not a master as choosing optimal gearsets :P

demon rings with 3mab augment maybe, str rings could possibly beat that out though

It is better, but i use str for rampage and mnd for reward so i dont have to carry extra gear thats just a convient set up.

The offhand axe is the +100TP. Body/Head will eventually be Twilight gear. I currently hit for 1.1K at 100% TP outside of abyssea. If any of you guys have access to the official forums suggest SE add the aftermath to our jugpets at lvl 90. XD

I want to say that a 5.0 fTP (accounting for his martial) really devalues the elemental belt but I'm no mathologist. Didn't Kirschy use Wildfire's high fTP as her reason for stating elemental gorget was bad for Wildfire? I wonder if Beir+1 would be better?

I haven't read the whole thread, but I can safely say that those elemental belts and gorgets (i.e. Thunderbelt) have 0 effect on cloudspitter. Try it. Do one @300 tp with belt then another @300 tp with belt slot empty. You'll notice 0 difference.

Yes, credelis belt or when it's Lightning day or thunder weather, Rairin Obi.

O speaking of Martial Axe, does it work if it's in the offhand? Thanks for the advice, i think you're right that a STR/MND/MAB belt would be better then thunder belt.

Magian weapons with TP bonus work offhand, actual "martial"-named weapons (from 75 cap) don't. I just have a habit of calling Magian TP bonus weapons martial.

Is what i use, still disappointed but meh.

Try this,

merit killer effects and use the +2 body. You'll actually see more damage than with twilight body.

And if you can get the +2 mab from the anwig salade, that'll do the same damage as twilight helm. Yes, mab counts that much.

Cloudsplitter shines if you're not dual wielding (As if that mattered anymore) and if you're outside Abyssea. The Fencer TP bonus plus the fact that Rampage ain't all that great without Razed Ruins means Cloudsplitter comes in at the level of the average rampage, with much greater reliability.

While Dual Wielding outside, Cloudsplitter is just powerful enough to justify using to activate ODD.

I haven't checked out a lot of the new 91+ Gear yet, but a decent set is probably still on my profile. If you're really hardcore about BST though, Guttler is way better, and given the stupidity of the 95 Empyrean upgrade, it's much easier to maintain now. That is to say nothing of the overwhelming force of Aymur, assuming they ever make Alexandrite available in a fashion that's reasonable.

They are planning on adding alexandrite drops to the nyzul upgrade they do. and increasing alexandrite drop rate when they upgrade salvage as well.
I believe Aymur will become more possible.

Can you post a link from SE Forum that SE will do it ?

i think i did come across that, but im just sitting tight chilling till then hopefully the alex supplies are gona be bigger since the price right now is abit tedious on bahamut heh~

hey xora u starting on ur alex now or something??

Sorry, but you're wrong. As long as you're using the proper belt/gorget it will add 0.1 ftp to your ws. You're just eyeballing results.


With higher ftp ws, adding .1 to it will have diminishing returns. The increase to, say, 2.0 to 2.1 is a larger % increase than 5.0 to 5.1. So, the elemental items do do less for ws with higher ftp than lower ones.

Sorry, but I'm not wrong. Cloudsplitter is very consistent.
In Abyssea, I put on a tp+100 atma and the tp+100 ToM axe, offhand.
Every weaponskill I do is at 300 tp and the damage is *EXACTLY* the same each time with a random resist now and then.

Now, I try the ws with the gorget / belt on and also with the neck and waist slots empty. THE DAMAGE DOES NOT CHANGE.

I have done this many, many, many times. You may call it *eyeballing*, but if you get the same damage with or without the gorgets for 30 or more weaponskills, I think it's pretty safe to say that the gorgets and belts have no effect at all on Cloudsplitter.

Did you even try it yourself?

If what your tests showed is true and Cloudsplitter simply isn't aligned with any gorgets/belts (but we can only take your word for it atm), then any belt with STR and/or MND, along with an MAB neck, is better than ele gorget/belt.

That being said, Crudelis should be better than ele belt, even if it would work for Cloudsplitter because you're always WSing with 200% TP and more.

Also, I don't think that anything beats an MAB item for the neck spot right now, be it ele gorget or something with WS mods.
That is, of course, unless you can change your WSC significantly.

With some random numbers I used, you'd need ~4-5 STR or MND to make up for only 1 MAB.
Not like I trust my maths all too much but I think we can rule out ele gorget/belt in any case for Cloudsplitter.