Finishing up my 85 Arma this week and been putting together a Wildfire WS set, just wondering where some improvements can be done.
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Finishing up my 85 Arma this week and been putting together a Wildfire WS set, just wondering where some improvements can be done.
Lakshmi.Harkonnen said: » Finishing up my 85 Arma this week and been putting together a Wildfire WS set, just wondering where some improvements can be done. ACP body beats lokis fractionally, depending on your access to it or Xhits, would be an upgrade. Depending on the target, +3 matk rings from tahrongi would beat stormsouls if the targets agi is low, or sveltese belt would beat aquiline if target agi is high. Depending on moonphase/ability to activate latent on ugga pendant, artemis medal is a viable neck option. The new 6agi/matk beret is a clear upgrade. If your macc is high enough, alruna's gloves offer +9agi on the hands, 1 higher thn schutzen. Lakshmi.Toniudontknowme
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With such a well established and easily found wildfire thread already in existence, this thread is going to be put in a body bag. To answer your question, Novio obviously.
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A nice 13 page thread dedicated to that one weaponskill. It'd be worth a read before asking any questions. Unfortunately with the well established threads you need to weed through the people who go off topic and get sidetracked from what the original poster was asking. Yes Novio, but I don't play mage jobs so I do not feel its fair if a for me to lot on one if there is a mage that can use it, unless everyone else does not need it. And I am looking into the new beret.
Question: Which would be better for Wildfire:
or: Augmented with: AGI+4 Weaponskill Damage +2% MAB+2 hHP+3 I haven't had time to really try out the new beret, but it's basically comparing the difference of (AGI+2 MAB+4) vs. (WS Damage +2%) Mirke Wardecors & Ambusher's hose
Phoenix.Mogue said: » Mirke Wardecors The damage increase between (AGI+11) and (AGI+5 MAB+4) isn't enough to completely ignore the sTP+7 on Loki's, which could be the difference between maintaining a x-hit build or not. (my cor uses loki in WS set to keep a 4-hit build when /sam, but uses the MAB augmented Mirke when /mage or during brew). Both bodies are fine for Wildfire, it mostly depends on subjob and personal play style. Edit: Just saw the Ambusher's Hose edit from Mogue. same thing applies when comparing AF3+2 legs. Ambusher's Hose have AGI+2 over AF3+2 legs, however the AF3+2 legs have sTP+8. If you're /mage or /nin and don't keep an x-hit, then yes those legs are better, but if you're /sam or using any x-hit build, you'd WS much more frequently which in turn would mean a higher damage output in the end. A corsair has all the right in the world to lot on a Novio against anyone. It's a heavily mab-oriented job anyway.
Pandinus beret Mab rings from Tahrongi(if you're lucky enough to find them - personally never even seen a single one..) Sveltesse gouriz It's a good set already anyway. Lakshmi.Hiku said: » Phoenix.Mogue said: » Mirke Wardecors The damage increase between (AGI+11) and (AGI+5 MAB+4) isn't enough to completely ignore the sTP+7 on Loki's, which could be the difference between maintaining a x-hit build or not. (my cor uses loki in WS set to keep a 4-hit build when /sam, but uses the MAB augmented Mirke when /mage or during brew). Both bodies are fine for Wildfire, it mostly depends on subjob and personal play style. See my post. The same is also true of af3+2 legs vs ambushers. Lakshmi.Hiku said: » Question: Which would be better for Wildfire: or: Augmented with: AGI+4 Weaponskill Damage +2% MAB+2 hHP+3 I haven't had time to really try out the new beret, but it's basically comparing the difference of (AGI+2 MAB+4) vs. (WS Damage +2%) Beret outside abyssea, anwig inside as a general rule. I'm refering to upper level NMs not trash mobs here. *groans* over people gearing for xhits on a job that'll have anywhere from 1 to 6/tic regain on at all times.
The mab vs agi argument is old. It's come to the conclusion that pretty much depends on your gear and subjob. If you have tons of mab, then balance with agi and viceversa. This way Mirke could possibly be better when /sam and Loki's when /rdm. You have to test them both and see what works better for you. Both are fine anyway.
Edit: and screw you all, Turul never dropped a kaftan to me! :< Phoenix.Sehachan said: » The mab vs agi argument is old. It's come to the conclusion that pretty much depends on your gear and subjob. If you have tons of mab, then balance with agi and viceversa. This way Mirke could possibly be better when /sam and Loki's when /rdm. You have to test them both and see what works better for you. Both are fine anyway. Edit: and screw you all, Turul never dropped a kaftan to me! :< Reread the thread. Mirke vs lokis arguement wasnt for pure damage, it was for the Xhit potential each gave. Phoenix.Mogue said: » *groans* over people gearing for xhits on a job that'll have anywhere from 1 to 6/tic regain on at all times. Not always. In harder fights then certainly, cor will almost always have regain roll on, but on lower end fights when our racc is actually capable of hitting reliably, wizards and miser rolls can come up trumps, leaving a lot of emphasis on xhits. I saw that and ignored it.
For those who haven't seen it elsewhere, this is a nice tool for comparing Wildfire damage with different sets:
Calculating Wildfire Damage Phoenix.Sehachan said: » The mab vs agi argument is old. It's come to the conclusion that pretty much depends on your gear and subjob. If you have tons of mab, then balance with agi and viceversa. This way Mirke could possibly be better when /sam and Loki's when /rdm. You have to test them both and see what works better for you. Both are fine anyway. Edit: and screw you all, Turul never dropped a kaftan to me! :< Man lol Turul must hate you, ive gotten just about all my friends a loki, and i beat the comp to the spawn point every time, he always seems to land right on me, people just give up camping against me after the 4th pop and ask when ill be done farming him. ^_^ Looks pretty good, but I'd change the neckpiece for Artemis/Uggalepih.
Leviathan.Blackwhirlwind said: » Man lol Turul must hate you, ive gotten just about all my friends a loki, and i beat the comp to the spawn point every time, he always seems to land right on me, people just give up camping against me after the 4th pop and ask when ill be done farming him. ^_^ Decent set, looks like you're going for pieces that do double duty with QD over ideal WF stuff in some slots though. Artemis or Ugge for neck, Alruna's for hands, Stormsoul rings unless the Demon's is a +3, Sveltese for waist, and Ambusher's for legs unless you absolutely need the stp from the Navarch's. Quote: Stormsoul rings unless the Demon's is a +3 Depending on other gear/buffs (as always) the Stormsouls will still beat the Demon's. Actually you're making both arguments in one post there, because swapping the Aquiline for Sventese is the same 7AGI <-> 3 MAB conversion. Mab augmented rings don't exist! Stop telling lies! ; ;
The only MAB ring that I have got is a +2 and have not seen one after that.
Phoenix.Sehachan said: » Mab augmented rings don't exist! Stop telling lies! ; ; Tell me about it. I have +2 x2 and the amount of farming I have done in Tahrongi is ridiculous. I am slowly working on H2H, and I've taken the route of farming KIs out of chests because I'm doing it at an easy pace in my free time and I'm trying to get +3 rings in the process too (I realize that KIs and items come at different Amber levels, but I grind through it either way. It's mostly about killing time.) So far out of what I'd estimate to be 100+ rings I've seen maybe 5 MAB rings. Three of them have been +1. I got -really- excited one day when I opened a chest and saw 3 +3 stats on it, but it was the OTHER three stats and no MAB. ;; I'm 27/50 on Chloris. We'll see whether I finish that first or get at least one MAB +3 ring. What's really irritating is that I have a Strendu Ring randomly obtained from Voidwatch and the little *** is mage jobs-only. Bismarck.Ramyrez said: » Quote: Stormsoul rings unless the Demon's is a +3 Depending on other gear/buffs (as always) the Stormsouls will still beat the Demon's. Actually you're making both arguments in one post there, because swapping the Aquiline for Sventese is the same 7AGI <-> 3 MAB conversion. No contradiction, I have a +2 and a +3 Demon's ring, and I use Stormsouls in both slots for Wildfire. Stormsoul rings are a lot pricier that Sveltese though, so I left room not change it while focusing on the more valuable upgrade slots. I find that the 2>2>1 rule of thumb is generally pretty reliable for mab vs agi, but I typically err on the side of AGI since I only use Cor for VW and want to pad the Agi-Int calculation. |
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