Bethnic Typhoon

So I have a question regarding Bethnic Typhoon.

The AGI 60% Mod, is it enough to warrant using IE: RSE3 Hume Gloves in my case which provide: +5 STR +5 AGI, or should I still be using Heafoc Mitts +13 STR for it?

I'm not sure on the math on this spell, was wondering what the general idea revolving it is.

Thanks.

Use +2 head, hands, feet, and legs with AF1 body for all physical blue magic. You will pull better damage. I see all these blues running around with crazy sets for casting doing a lot less than my blue with a much more simple build. I find to optimize damage on physical it is good to stack Blue magic skill + gear and sword skill + gear. Most spells are multi hit and call for greater accuracy, making Heafoc a bad choice for almost all spells. The same goes for /thf spell sets but swap the af body with Loki's. I dropped 9k+ cannonballs with the set up I run, and needless to say I have not seen any one drop 9k damage with out a brew besides me yet.

dont forget MACC sticks

No.
To the OP: For Benthic Typhoon, probably better off with Ocelot if you have them, or in your case, your hume gloves.

Oh my god you are the worst troll ever, go away.

Ignore the Rancor's post, and never do any of what he implies.

To answer your question, this set would pretty much be optimal for Benthic. +1/2 head for Chain Affinity ofc, Loki's for if you're stacking it with SA.



I may have overlooked something, but that should be just about the best AGI set you can make.

Edit: In retrospect, Loki's is better any time you have CA up.

<_<; wha?

Are you focusing on activating full af3 set and or 4/5 of it?

And wheres all your magic accuracy gear? Cause you know 90% of blu's seem to believe m.acc helps PHYSICAL spells /sarcasm

Ninja edit: and trying for set proc which is what 5% chance all 5 pieces? Is seriously gimping yourself trying to get set proc

Which is better will vary. Outside Abyssea you'll get the full benefit of Heafoc's STR and thus a similar increase in base damage. RSE3 would potentially get you a slightly higher base damage, but Heafoc will also add 4 attack so in the end Heafoc should edge out RSE3 slightly overall. Inside Abyssea, if you're using VV atma it's likely fSTR will be capped and thus you'd only get the attack from Heafoc, making RSE3 better.

However, this ignores both Chain Affinity and hitrate. RSE3 will be superior under Chain Affinity and when hitrate is uncapped with Heafoc. Ocelot Gloves are also a nice choice that add a touch of accuracy and haste, and will perform comparably to the other two options (best choice if fSTR capped/CA up too).

Ah a troll. I sees. Thought that was... strange. So...

Mavi Tathlum over Breeze Sachet?

Any information over what the STR to AGI numbers are? IE: 1 AGI = 2 STR? etc.

And, without SA Lohki's or Magus Jubbah +1?

With CA, Lohki's or Magus Jubbah +1? <-- so, without CA Lohki's or Jubbah +1?

Without CA, AF+1, with CA Loki's. Mavi Tathlum over breeze, mavi is pretty solid choice for almost all blu spells I'm sure there is certain situations where it's beaten though.

Stormsoul rings (*'-') lol

Always forget about those overpriced things :\

wilhem+altdorf earring also better if you don't need the acc from suppa. and breeze sachet.

:| screw that. Inventory Killer, Gil Killers, Nupe.

Was just looking for pretty much basic ends and simple math on it, other than that I have a decent set up... think I'm a go camp those +8 AGI earring combo though. Would be a nice addition.

In anycase, thanks for the info fellas ;o

Mavi Tathlum is superior to breeze sachet in every possible way.

Is that just word of mouth or is there some actual mathematical reason behind it?

I know it helps increase the damage rating of spells, however I don't know the specific # by # ratio.

How much is 5 Blue Magic Skill contributing? Is it a flat number for the new spells?

In this scenario it's 5 Magic Skill, versus 2 AGI for a 60% AGI Mod Cast. If you know what the numbers are I'd love to know. +1 inventory space, yes pleaseeeee.

Calculating Blue Magic Damage

The D value is increased by 5*.11*2=1.1 with a tathlum. WSC is modified by .6*2*alpha with a breeze, I think alpha is around .8 at 90 so 1.2*.8=.96. It entirely depends on other factors, but since the value is floored it's highly likely that there's not much of a difference if any (but the tathlum does win out).

I'm in the process of learning the game mechanics, so please tell me if I'm missing something (primarily the alpha value at 90).

Blue magic skill more or less directly translates to blue magic attack, too.

Damage calculations are floored at each step, the base damage bonus from Mavi Tathlum is all-or-nothing based on whether or not skill*0.11 hits the next integer value or not. Alpha is 0.85 at 90. Tathlum also contributes to attack.

For blue magic D, the (x*.11) value gets floored so whether or not you get any dmg at all is determined by your skill before you add the tath. Also, alpha is apparently .85 at 90. And as Prothescar pointed out, you get attack from the blue magic skill too which is quite valuable since the only ways to raise it are +str and +skill.

I see I see I see. Alright well that was absolutely great, and a very nice simplification. Well that's great indeed then.

So hmm... well, this is interesting. Is there some reason why many people dislike the idea of using Mavi Scarf then? +4 Macc, +4SwrdSkl...

Would it in a way be nearly the same in this situation where this wins out instead of using something like Kubira Bead Necklace / Ire Torque +1? Or is Ire Torque +1 the end all for providing a bigger boost?

*Don't mean to deviate just came to mind*

The torque contributes to blue magic attack and WSC, the scarf is only 4 attack and 6~7 ACC.

Was bored, maybe this is common knowledge but wiki says its just front conal however with a bit of repositioning/retargetting you can get a few more mobs hit. Some people would either face the target north benthic typhoon him then the proceed to kill south ones, or target one south hit both but miss the north. However by facing the direction of the ones paired up yet targetting the single one north you'll hit all three. Well itemsets and calculations have been covered just thought id cover this too. Surprisingly useful when I used to blu burn quite a bit.

I've been on a vanity dive kick for awhile now and finally decided to get a decent benthic set going. This is what I am wearing right now. The shamshir+2 is an agi sword and I'm working on another one atm.



I started using sanguine/rr/gnarled but I'm trying out vv/rr/gnarled atm. Just wondering what everyone else uses.

In abysea attohwa tonight:

str 87+102
dex 75+144
agi 70+201