%98 Counter Rate

is this even possible? from what i see
its possible to get %98 counter rate

ok starting off with the basics. MNK gets job trait
Counter II
which gives 13%
Counter stance with melee boots gives %60
LV90 Spharai give %15
and finally Atma of Roaring Laughter
which gives STR+50, Eva+50 Counter +%10

does all this stack normally or does this work like damage taken stuff?

if this is the case. DO WANT!

I believe there is a 80% cap.

No, Counter has a cap, i think its 75% or something around there.

Thought counter caps at 75%

so counterstance with melee boots and job trait already caps it?

well... almost, 73/75

lame

Hard cap is 80%, but parsed counter rate can exceed that w/ help from perfect counter, since perfect counter is not counted towards the counter cap.

Though the cap is 80%, you're limited by 95% hitrate

.95 x .80 = 76% counter rate, again excluding perfect counter.

roaring laughter is EVA -(major), not +(major)

the 13% is already taken into account in the 60% after stance w/gaiters
so null that bit

blah. there goes my ideas of counter-tanking lol

and considering thats -eva kinda blows.

Huh?

Gnarled horn beckons you

Edit: dont you only counter an attack when your evasion "fails"?

Roaring laughter sucks, but not for the reasons mentioned by the OP.

+1 for saying no to roaring laughter. -1 for the logic behind it.

title looked promising. /disappointed
Was hoping someone discovered counter cap rate was increased.

My last test:

57% with counterstance without af2 feet
64% with counterstance with af2 feet

It is more likely that counterstance with feet is 50% and then the 13% is added to 63%.

Lvl 90 spharai is more like 11%

They should make Spharai go past the cap like Aegis and Burtgang, but then I guess it would be too broken.

They could let it go past cap by few% instead of full 11%. For example let Spharai cap at 87.5% instead of 80%.

That doesn't sound so bad to me considering the effort put into making one.

How big of a sample size was this? Merits? Perfect counter used?

If feet is a 10% increase, that would mean CS w/o feet would be 40% and 13% would give you 53, toss in capped acc and you get 50% counter rating which you didnt get in your non feet testing.

If you had merits that would push it to 55% which could go either way to being true to your statement if the sample size was too small.

However with counterstance/boots you say should be 50% and the 13% from traits puts it at 63, but accuracy brings that down to 59% but with merits it bring it to 64% which seems about right, but again a small sample size could mean a different story.


I think trait+counterstance = 50% but that was before we got a 2nd trait, so youd probably have to add that in, which is what 3% now?
53+5 = 58, with acc being 55(2 off)
53+5+10 = 68 = 64 which checks with one of your testing

Maybe its actually +5% from trait II?
55+5 = 60 = 57(checks ok)
55+10+5 = 70 = 66(again 2 off)

Didnt Tigerwoods do a test on some atmas and this overall counter fell roughly where it should have been? Then again I dont know if he used PC.

Thanks for the testing though, I wanted to get around to it but doing events and irl things keeping me occupied I havent had a chance :/

Merits, no perfect counter, about 600 counters each (dont have time to check parse now).

the only evdance that i have seen that we even get the counter II trait is from BST's that tried to check the counter rate of the mandy jug pet. Even they cant tell if we really have it.
this is what i know to be true and the way i understand it to work.
counter trait is 5% once we use counterstance that 5% is nul and void and the ability brings are counter rate to 50%. When you apply the relic gaiters you gain another 10% bringing your total before merits and other gear to 60%. If you merited counter rate the way ever mnk should you gain another 5%, bringing your total to 65%. atma of choice either GH or RL gives 10% bringing are total to 75%. Counter cap is believed to be 80% checked by using different gear sets weapons and both RL and GH awhile back(sorry cant give a link but its out there).
Tigerwoods stated the acc correctly above so even though counter cap is 80% with capped acc you looking around 75-77% tops.
I love the idea of letting relic weapons break caps i believe the two mentioned now cap at 90% and w/ acc checks that would bring it down close to 85% countered rate. Its believed that at 99spharai will have 15% counter rate on them, when added to the way the above stated works that gives you current counter cap w/ just an ability and macro piece of gear plus a 99relic weapon.
Here is the instering thing if this were to happen where are you going to get the other 10% counter w/o killing your acc,attack,haste,and other need stat boosts.