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LulzSec does it again. Now taking requests.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2011-06-15 17:09:41
Bahamut.Serj said: As they clearly aren't just DDoS, if what they're doing is just "kiddie stuff", shouldn't people care about their private information being so easily accessed? All of you people wishing they were in jail are just annoyed because it's affecting you and are not looking at anything else.
Not saying what they're doing is justified or right, but they are doing it and causing problems for very big companies. Something about that isn't good. Nothing they've done so far has affected me in the least, I'd still like to see them in jail. Although that's probably more about me hating arrogance (them thinking they're untouchable) than anything else.
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By Carbuncle.Tweeek 2011-06-15 17:32:23
all these people are doing is begging for the government agencies around the world to unite and make ridiculous internet laws think Patriot Act but in terms of the internet. They will tap into and partner up with as many ISPs as possible and straight up limit our access to what servers they're going to let us talk to just like China if they keep this HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE ***up.
If they keep putting this pressure on the government or even big business they'll start treating simple DDoS attackers as war criminals, they're already getting close to talking about dealing with these hackers as global terrorists. If they get locked up in Guantanamo Bay than the lulz will be on them.
I wouldn't be surprised if other hacker groups who are less public with their feats helped to take down these more public groups as swiftly as possible.
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By Carbuncle.Astrida 2011-06-15 18:49:49
Somebody call so they take on lulzwow
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2011-06-15 18:52:23
Suicide rates would skyrocket
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By Carbuncle.Astrida 2011-06-15 18:54:34
Bismarck.Dracondria said: Suicide rates would skyrocket rofl probably
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By Asura.Shylaa 2011-06-15 19:20:19
Can they hack the company that holds my school loan info and take it to 0? Do something for the people if you're such pro hackers. Erase some credit card debts, dig up some juicy news on corporate fraud. How exactly does this help anyone but your own ego?
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By Damiyen 2011-06-15 19:25:16
Asura.Shylaa said: Can they hack the company that holds my school loan info and take it to 0? Do something for the people if you're such pro hackers. Erase some credit card debts, dig up some juicy news on corporate fraud. How exactly does this help anyone but your own ego?
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By Bismarck.Nevill 2011-06-15 19:30:14
Are these idiots actually hitting the FBI and the CIA?
By Damiyen 2011-06-15 19:31:34
they only took the website down for a brief period. Its back up now
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By Bismarck.Nevill 2011-06-15 19:46:43
They're so gonna get caught.
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2011-06-15 22:10:47
This might be the dumbest thing I've seen any self-congratulatory hacker group do in a long while.
DoS'ing the CIA, with no agenda, no actual intrusion, no theft, no attempted value, just "for the lulz?"
I mean, eventually you piss off enough important people that no country, company, ISP, government agency, legal protection, or even fellow hacker group is going to protect you. You've made yourself a target from every direction, and suddenly it's in everyone's best interests to make an example out of you. Or hell, someone will offer money and immunity for one kiddie to rat the others out, and the whole thing implodes overnight.
This seems incredibly poorly thought-out.
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2011-06-15 22:14:24
Lakshmi.Jaerik said: Or hell, someone will offer money and immunity for one kiddie to rat the others out, and the whole thing implodes overnight. Except they're all independent of each other. They're as anonymous to each other as to the rest of the world. None can rat the others out beyond knowing where the conversation channels are.
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2011-06-15 22:17:28
Diabolos.Raelia said: They're as anonymous to each other as to the rest of the world. So was Al Qaeda.
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2011-06-15 22:20:16
Lakshmi.Jaerik said: Diabolos.Raelia said: They're as anonymous to each other as to the rest of the world. So was Al Qaeda. And they were easy to track down?
It took ten years and a huge break to find Bin Laden, and he was chilling in a fairly populated area.
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By Siren.Verona 2011-06-15 22:37:55
So, I'm a member of the Escapist right. I've made some good friends over there, I play games with them and shoot the breeze with them from time to time.
Now I used to be pretty cavalier with my information. But I got pretty sick of reinstalling Windows so I'm pretty cautious now. Basically, I don't sign up to any website unless I'm sure it's legit.
Nonetheless, last night I couldn't get on the Escapist to watch some videos. I chalk it up to high traffic and move on. Later, I find out LulzSec did a job on it. I also find out that shortly after they did this, a bunch of spam emails got spewed out by my account.
So yeah, I'm not happy.
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-06-15 22:41:18
Diabolos.Raelia said: Lakshmi.Jaerik said: Diabolos.Raelia said: They're as anonymous to each other as to the rest of the world. So was Al Qaeda. And they were easy to track down?
It took ten years and a huge break to find Bin Laden, and he was chilling in a fairly populated area. except he didnt know how to use the internet
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2011-06-15 22:52:41
I wonder if they really think they'll go down in history or something. Hell I forgot all about this nonsense until I even read this thread.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-06-15 22:56:18
Someone request they attack CIA.gov so we can end this ***.
Siren.Verona said: So, I'm a member of the Escapist right. I've made some good friends over there, I play games with them and shoot the breeze with them from time to time.
Now I used to be pretty cavalier with my information. But I got pretty sick of reinstalling Windows so I'm pretty cautious now. Basically, I don't sign up to any website unless I'm sure it's legit.
Nonetheless, last night I couldn't get on the Escapist to watch some videos. I chalk it up to high traffic and move on. Later, I find out LulzSec did a job on it. I also find out that shortly after they did this, a bunch of spam emails got spewed out by my account.
So yeah, I'm not happy.
Yeah, I had 5 saved drafts in my hotmail account. I don't even remember the last time I even drafted an Email (none sent yet), so I changed my password just now.
I'm pretty sure they got on my XBL account too, because I had games on there I had never played or owned.
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2011-06-15 23:28:30
Odin.Zicdeh said: Someone request they attack CIA.gov so we can end this ***. They uh... did?
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-15 23:34:32
Diabolos.Raelia said: Lakshmi.Jaerik said: Or hell, someone will offer money and immunity for one kiddie to rat the others out, and the whole thing implodes overnight. Except they're all independent of each other. They're as anonymous to each other as to the rest of the world. None can rat the others out beyond knowing where the conversation channels are.
No-one is truly anonymous.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-15 23:38:56
And people should really contact twitter and get their feed taken down. I'm pretty sure that would kill a ton of publicity they're getting.
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2011-06-15 23:39:20
Shiva.Flionheart said: Diabolos.Raelia said: Lakshmi.Jaerik said: Or hell, someone will offer money and immunity for one kiddie to rat the others out, and the whole thing implodes overnight. Except they're all independent of each other. They're as anonymous to each other as to the rest of the world. None can rat the others out beyond knowing where the conversation channels are.
No-one is truly anonymous. It is very possible to have such an obfuscated identity that it becomes hard to even be certain that any identity finally traced out can be 100% accurate, if at all. This is entirely how Tor works. The problem isn't looking at each of seven proxies they're behind, but actually figuring out if they're in Sweden or Russia or Mexico...
Perfect anonymity is impossible, yes. You have to come from somewhere. But it is entirely possible to make the job of finding you take longer than, for instance, the statue of limitations on your actions if even possible within a human lifetime if it involves also breaking encryption.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-06-15 23:45:06
Diabolos.Raelia said: Odin.Zicdeh said: Someone request they attack CIA.gov so we can end this ***. They uh... did?
Yeah, I just read that lol.
If they piss the wrong group off enough, they'll be found.
They're not even doing anything any script kiddy couldn't do with 20minutes and a defunct ***.
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2011-06-15 23:50:30
Odin.Zicdeh said: They're not even doing anything any script kiddy couldn't do with 20minutes and a defunct ***. Giving them far too little credit. They'd be getting buttraped in a federal penitentiary if they were doing easy scriptkiddie junk. Unless it comes out two weeks from now that a whole dozen of them have been rounded up, messing with CIA.gov and skittering away clean is proof enough they know what they're doing. I weep for the copycats however...
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-06-15 23:55:43
Diabolos.Raelia said: Odin.Zicdeh said: They're not even doing anything any script kiddy couldn't do with 20minutes and a defunct ***. Giving them far too little credit. They'd be getting buttraped in a federal penitentiary if they were doing easy scriptkiddie junk. Unless it comes out two weeks from now that a whole dozen of them have been rounded up, messing with CIA.gov and skittering away clean is proof enough they know what they're doing. I weep for the copycats however...
You're giving them far too much credit. What are the actual details of what they did to CIA, I doubt it was anything more than *** with inconsequential ***that doesn't even warrant a retaliation.
If they actually breached high-security though, that's tantamount to a declaration of war.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-15 23:58:20
Diabolos.Raelia said: Odin.Zicdeh said: They're not even doing anything any script kiddy couldn't do with 20minutes and a defunct ***. Giving them far too little credit. They'd be getting buttraped in a federal penitentiary if they were doing easy scriptkiddie junk. Unless it comes out two weeks from now that a whole dozen of them have been rounded up, messing with CIA.gov and skittering away clean is proof enough they know what they're doing. I weep for the copycats however...
The fact you seem to condone what they do doesn't surprise me.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-15 23:58:54
And yeah like Zic said, I really don't think they realise how exactly far they're going. If they do anything major it is essentially an act of war.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2011-06-16 00:01:59
I think a lot of people are underestimating our capability to retaliate. Yes, it's hard to track them down, but the moment an attack warrants the response, you'll see a bunch of pasty virgins hanging by their heels. I assure you.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-06-16 00:03:38
Like I said before, I think people should release all the info from the hacks. If I had a company that got hacked, the first thing I'd do is anonymously tip off other hacker groups. Even maybe with some incentive.
Quote: UPDATED: LulzSec Topples EVE Online, Escapist Magazine, Minecraft and League of Legends Servers
Hacker collective Lulz Security, aka LulzSec, have taken down four high-profile targets today, with more to come from community requests.
Hacker collective LulzSec, or as it calls itself, "the world's leaders in high-quality entertainment at your expense," has so far taken down three sets of servers today -- those belonging to CCP's EVE Online, Escapist Magazine and Minecraft.
The group's agenda isn't entirely clear right now, besides this tweet, which claims "we did it because they couldn't stop us." Today's targets don't appear to have a common thread, besides being video game related. Presumably the group is trying to make a point about lackluster security, and clearly believes that it is both above the law and able to do anything it wants. The group has even been brazen enough to set up a phone number for the community to request new "targets."
LulzSec has also claimed responsibility for attacks on Sony Pictures, PBS.org, Fox.com and Bethesda in recent weeks.
If you are a user of one of the affected services, be sure to change your login details once the group finishes having its "fun." According to Notch on Twitter, Minecraft is now back up. The Escapist and EVE Online still appear to be down at the time of writing.
UPDATE: The group now claims to have taken down the League of Legends login servers as well as eight other sites requested by users phoning in.
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