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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-04-24 08:12:56
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http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/18208/abyssea-attohwa-lights-problem/
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By Leviathan.Vindeel 2011-04-24 09:41:09
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I did my share of dark ring farming. What worked best for me in the end was to aeolian Edge the bugards. Plenty of them and they are not too spread out. Nvm Turul. At worst he kill you and you can take a break for 5min.

For lights i went to flux8. there is a emp in the imps and two more at the tonberries. Pavan is usally around too so if you kill these a few times you should cap for azure. For Pearl i did bakka and 4-6 vnm's.

Good luck on the rings. Seems the rly good ones are rare ;
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By Siren.Kogasho 2011-08-19 01:55:58
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Ok im in the process of farming these i have a few questions...
question 1, How can i achieve max gold chest spawn rate at max azure and max pearl and have 100-150 amber? im trying to keep the chest small due to me not wanting every damn gold chest to have KI or Temp items, example i find that smaller chest can give up to 2 Augmented items as comepared to Big chest that dont, I find when i have high pearl and high azure my gold chest seem to be getting rarer, is there a number that i can get amber to that keeps a good drop rate that keeps the chest small and constant with good drop rate of small gold chest with high azure an pearl?
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-08-19 01:58:03
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Unless you're after dark rings to npc, if you're only getting small chests the chances are they're all going to have garbage on them
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By Siren.Kogasho 2011-08-19 02:01:38
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Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: »
Unless you're after dark rings to npc, if you're only getting small chests the chances are they're all going to have garbage on them

Yes im looking to npc the garbage and keep the decent ones im only really looking for 5-6 phys and magic ones i dont wanna go all elite and try to get the 6 6 6 ones
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-08-19 02:03:34
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I got 3 good dark rings (out of 7 total) and a refresh hairpin in ~6 hours with capped amber/azure/pearl. Non-cleaving, just killing saplings on nin solo.
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-08-19 02:25:24
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Siren.Kogasho said: »
Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: »
Unless you're after dark rings to npc, if you're only getting small chests the chances are they're all going to have garbage on them

Yes im looking to npc the garbage and keep the decent ones im only really looking for 5-6 phys and magic ones i dont wanna go all elite and try to get the 6 6 6 ones
You want big chests then
Tiny ones you'll get seriously shitty stats
like
srsly
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-08-19 02:29:03
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Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: »
You want big chests then

big chests are nice
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By Siren.Kogasho 2011-08-19 02:29:30
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Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: »
Siren.Kogasho said: »
Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: »
Unless you're after dark rings to npc, if you're only getting small chests the chances are they're all going to have garbage on them

Yes im looking to npc the garbage and keep the decent ones im only really looking for 5-6 phys and magic ones i dont wanna go all elite and try to get the 6 6 6 ones
You want big chests then
Tiny ones you'll get seriously shitty stats
like
srsly

lol alright thanks for the info
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By Cerberus.Wolfshadow 2011-08-19 02:32:37
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Pandemonium.Ironguy said: »
Cerberus.Wolfshadow said: »
You want big chests then

big chests are nice

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By Carbuncle.Ancientdragon 2011-08-19 02:46:50
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can get 2 in little ones and only 1 in the big chests tho
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By Asura.Fondue 2011-10-24 22:59:39
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so any definitive answer on getting good dark ring augments? cap amber? nearly capped amber?
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By Bismarck.Josiahkf 2011-10-24 23:02:54
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you can get dark rings with any amber light. however higher chance of "powerful items" in amber 150+ and higher chance of gold chest if you keep all other lights lower.

So since azure 128 is TE lvl, capping amber wont hinder your goal but I prefer like 180-200 amber, find less key items usually
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By Bismarck.Josiahkf 2011-10-24 23:03:41
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but personally, all my great augments are 255 amber and all my dark rings with 1-150 amber were garbage /shrug
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By Phoenix.Pooman 2011-10-24 23:27:32
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Personally, it was all random for me. Whether it was 128 amber or 255, what came out of the chest always felt random. Perhaps the higher the number, the more frequent you'll come along those chests.

But there are always those times when I have 0 ruby, 128 azure, and 255 amber and there will be a run of about 10 minutes or so that I'll see more red than gold chests.

Farming dark rings I went 128 azure and 255 amber, and got one pdt6mdt5 and one pdt5mdt4 in about 30 minutes after capping lights. I consider myself really lucky. Farming in that zone sucks.
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By Leviathan.Dodu 2011-10-24 23:35:08
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The higher the number, the higher the frequency of that particular type of chest. Nothing more, nothing less. This is well known. If you're farming gold, get 128 azure to maintain time, cap pearl for maximum chest frequency, and cap amber for maximum gold frequency.

My best Dark Ring was at 100 amber. ***doesn't matter.
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By Bismarck.Josiahkf 2011-10-24 23:39:43
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Leviathan.Dodu said: »
The higher the number, the higher the frequency of that particular type of chest. Nothing more, nothing less. This is well known. If you're farming gold, get 128 azure to maintain time, cap pearl for maximum chest frequency, and cap amber for maximum gold frequency.

My best Dark Ring was at 100 amber. ***doesn't matter.
no it isn't that simple. the higher the number, also the higher frequency that better items are in the chest of that type

this is why at 128-255 azure we will see time extensions much more often when blue chests drop, while the odds of getting a TE when blue chests drop with less than 128 azure are much lower
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By Leviathan.Dodu 2011-10-25 01:07:39
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You only see a TE in sub-128 azure chests is because it has a random chance of occurring based on the way the system is setup, or because of the way abyssites work. Most likely the latter. The number doesn't determine the frequency of something 'better' popping up, it merely opens/closes thresholds. Cap your ruby and you will never see an azure/pearlescent/ruby/amber light.
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2011-10-25 01:24:48
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Leviathan.Dodu said: »
The higher the number, the higher the frequency of that particular type of chest. Nothing more, nothing less. This is well known. If you're farming gold, get 128 azure to maintain time, cap pearl for maximum chest frequency, and cap amber for maximum gold frequency.

My best Dark Ring was at 100 amber. ***doesn't matter.
Keeping this in mind for next Dark Ring run. =P
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By Kisangi 2011-10-25 07:20:53
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Have been doing this for a few days as a personal project on my BLU. I've set out to cap amber first, then azure. So far I've made about 5-600k in about 2 or 3 days farming. The best haul has been a dark rign with -5% MDT -4% PDT and -5% BDT. Gonna keep at it til I can find another one.

Btw, from reading a post floating around here earlier about Pavum (or whatever Garuda is called there) she has a tendency to drop about 150+ lights of whatever type (except Pearl it seems, she only drops 10..) upon death. Killing her 2 or three times is enough to cap amber in about 15 mins. Azure as well in half an hour. At that point it's just popping on netflix and getting down and dirty.
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By Leviathan.Dodu 2011-10-25 10:11:48
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Pavan, like several other avatars/ephemerals, has a range of very specific lights it will give, 24, 48, 64, or 128. In Konschat, Pavan does this for amber. Conversely, Ephemeral Clionids in Konschat do the same ranges for azure lights. This isn't static, though, and you'll need to target different things in different zones to elevate different lights(and unfortunately T1 VNM are still the most efficient way to build pearl :/).

Lights are well documented on BG, look for a moderately reason thread called 'Abyssea lights'.
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By Shiva.Xellith 2011-10-25 10:15:26
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This
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By Leviathan.Dodu 2011-10-25 10:26:11
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Holy *** plagiarism
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By Bismarck.Josiahkf 2011-10-25 17:30:30
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Leviathan.Dodu said: »
The higher the number, the higher the frequency of that particular type of chest. Nothing more, nothing less.
Leviathan.Dodu said: »
Cap your ruby and you will never see an azure/pearlescent/ruby/amber light.
you realize it looks like you just contradicted yourself?

first you say more of that light does not change what is inside the chest then you say more of that light changes what is inside the chest

I agree with the second point you were making though and when someone is after dark rings essentially all you want is "chests with powerful items" which will drop more often with higher amber light. Yeah you could get a 100 dark rings with zero amber light but the odds are severely against you
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-10-25 17:31:55
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On the contrary you're far more likely to see chests with key items than chests with items inside with higher amber light. It's also worth noting that small gold chests are far more likely to hold 2 items at once rather than 1. In fact, I don't think a large gold chest can have two items in it.
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By Leviathan.Dodu 2011-10-25 17:34:39
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Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »
Leviathan.Dodu said: »
The higher the number, the higher the frequency of that particular type of chest. Nothing more, nothing less.
Leviathan.Dodu said: »
Cap your ruby and you will never see an azure/pearlescent/ruby/amber light.
you realize it looks like you just contradicted yourself?

first you say more of that light does not change what is inside the chest then you say more of that light changes what is inside the chest

I agree with the second point you were making though and when someone is after dark rings essentially all you want is "chests with powerful items" which will drop more often with higher amber light. Yeah you could get a 100 dark rings with zero amber light but the odds are severely against you

I didn't contradict myself. Different light levels open/close reward thresholds. When you hit 128 ruby, you close the door for azure/pearl/ruby/amber. This is pretty simple.
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By Phoenix.Morier 2011-10-25 17:35:19
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I get large gold chests all the time with 2 feet or like a fire bead and a spell @255 amber if that matters.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-10-25 17:37:43
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Phoenix.Morier said: »
I get large gold chests all the time with 2 feet or like a fire bead and a spell @255 amber if that matters.

Those aren't augmented items. I.E. Powerful items, not just items
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By Bismarck.Josiahkf 2011-10-25 17:39:40
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Leviathan.Dodu said: »
Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »
Leviathan.Dodu said: »
The higher the number, the higher the frequency of that particular type of chest. Nothing more, nothing less.
Leviathan.Dodu said: »
Cap your ruby and you will never see an azure/pearlescent/ruby/amber light.
you realize it looks like you just contradicted yourself?

first you say more of that light does not change what is inside the chest then you say more of that light changes what is inside the chest

I agree with the second point you were making though and when someone is after dark rings essentially all you want is "chests with powerful items" which will drop more often with higher amber light. Yeah you could get a 100 dark rings with zero amber light but the odds are severely against you

I didn't contradict myself. Different light levels open/close reward thresholds. When you hit 128 ruby, you close the door for azure/pearl/ruby/amber. This is pretty simple.
yeah you did. that first bolded blanket statement oversimplifying it did and you just did again, but besides the point

Valefor.Prothescar said: »
On the contrary you're far more likely to see chests with key items than chests with items inside with higher amber light. It's also worth noting that small gold chests are far more likely to hold 2 items at once rather than 1. In fact, I don't think a large gold chest can have two items in it.
yeah this is what I said for the same reason. Keeping amber lower will help the rate of "powerful items" in chests instead of "Key items"

but right now I have no idea how to limit the temp item spam we see sadly. annoying ***
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By Phoenix.Morier 2011-10-25 17:40:33
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AH i see i just saw you say 2 items. *goes back to lurking*
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