Throwing Weaponskills
Throwing Weaponskills
Should there be some? I for one think that it would make leveling it more worthwhile. Plus there are some interesting ideas they could work with if they decided to implement them.
Would be nice to put ninja's skill to good use aside from landing satchets on Gods.... wait, you mean you guys don't do that?
I think it's because there's really not much motion you can add into a throwing WS model.... since all you do is toss something.
Lakshmi.Glaciont said:
I think it's because there's really not much motion you can add into a throwing WS model.... since all you do is toss something.
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The problem is obvious, though. If they end up being awesome, that'll become the only WS used and people will complain, because people complain about everything.
Conversely, if they suck, people will *** that they suck and never use them.
Conversely, if they suck, people will *** that they suck and never use them.
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My guess, thinking about it now, would be that there are no throwing weapon skills because of the vast variety of weapons that can go into that slot.
For instance, take Swords, all swords in the game look pretty much the same, Vorpal Blade with a Joyeuse is Vorpal Blade with a Xiphos.
But let's say they made throwing weapon skills, like "Throwku", "Throwhan", and "Throwcolo". Well I'd imagine "Throwku" would be weird with a pebble if it was original meant to be done with a Rogetsurin, or with a Bibiki Seashell, or Morion Tathlum, or Charis Feather, or whatever you get the point.
For instance, take Swords, all swords in the game look pretty much the same, Vorpal Blade with a Joyeuse is Vorpal Blade with a Xiphos.
But let's say they made throwing weapon skills, like "Throwku", "Throwhan", and "Throwcolo". Well I'd imagine "Throwku" would be weird with a pebble if it was original meant to be done with a Rogetsurin, or with a Bibiki Seashell, or Morion Tathlum, or Charis Feather, or whatever you get the point.
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But then rng would be too awesome. Tp in something cheap and easy then switch to a 250 dmg throwing weapon for ws... unlimited shot ftw. Seriously if you could slugshot a god wind it would easily do 5k
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I can't find anything to quote but I recall reading somewhere that a ws can't tell apart the different types of throwing items (returning ones like boomerangs and chakram vs thrown/used ones like shuriken darts and pebbles) and that the throw once and gone type would be an additional problem on top of that. PS2 Engine limitations.
Don't you also lose tp when you change that slot?
Edit: Actually that's probably half the problem, chakrams and boomerangs are in the ranged slot, while tathlums and darts are in the ammo slot. (I think?)
Edit: Actually that's probably half the problem, chakrams and boomerangs are in the ranged slot, while tathlums and darts are in the ammo slot. (I think?)
Odin.Blazza said:
Don't you also lose tp when you change that slot?
lose tp when you change ranged slot. but can change ammo till you are blue in the face.
It's a cool idea but honestly at this point i dont think se has any intention of doing anything new or orginal. This should of been done when NIN was realeased, i dont think se has even released any real thorwing ammo since fuma shurikens.
i was originally thinking about this mostly for dancer because they got a chakram as their af1 weapon and on some other games i have played the dancer has had some disk they'd attack with. i wouldnt say it would be for a powerful ws, perhaps a ws that can open a dark/light chain or has a status affect such as terror.
@Op if you like (if you dont feel like it) i could make a suggestion for them on the official forums so atleast our voice on the subject is heard.
@Op if you like (if you dont feel like it) i could make a suggestion for them on the official forums so atleast our voice on the subject is heard.
since so few jobs use throwing, and most of them are B or C skill, wouldnt be a game breaker.. as it would really be limited to DNC and NIN for use. atleast higher level WS's.. though i would like to see PUP throw the Animator at some mob in a weaponskill.. or be able to use it like a Chakram.
would bring something new to the game.. something kinda fun to boot
would bring something new to the game.. something kinda fun to boot
Phoenix.Degs said:
since so few jobs use throwing, and most of them are B or C skill, wouldnt be a game breaker.. as it would really be limited to DNC and NIN for use. atleast higher level WS's.. though i would like to see PUP throw the Animator at some mob in a weaponskill.. or be able to use it like a Chakram.
would bring something new to the game.. something kinda fun to boot
would bring something new to the game.. something kinda fun to boot
another thought in this.... with the use of throwing weapons, and throwing weapon WS's.. would be cool if they added something to cors, since they are pirates, maybe add like a grenade or something to their arsenal, that would give status effects, would be limited to weaponskill, maybe the something similar could be done for at least most of the jobs
I would love to see throwing WS, I would also like enspells to work on ranged weapons, not gonna happen though.
Phoenix.Degs said:
since so few jobs use throwing, and most of them are B or C skill, wouldnt be a game breaker.. as it would really be limited to DNC and NIN for use. atleast higher level WS's..
Asura.Yunalaysca said:
Phoenix.Degs said:
since so few jobs use throwing, and most of them are B or C skill, wouldnt be a game breaker.. as it would really be limited to DNC and NIN for use. atleast higher level WS's.. though i would like to see PUP throw the Animator at some mob in a weaponskill.. or be able to use it like a Chakram.
would bring something new to the game.. something kinda fun to boot
would bring something new to the game.. something kinda fun to boot
The only thing sadder than trying to get throwing weaponskills, is trying to get PUP in on the action.
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Phoenix.Degs said:
since so few jobs use throwing, and most of them are B or C skill, wouldnt be a game breaker.. as it would really be limited to DNC and NIN for use. atleast higher level WS's..
Asura.Yunalaysca said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Phoenix.Degs said:
since so few jobs use throwing, and most of them are B or C skill, wouldnt be a game breaker.. as it would really be limited to DNC and NIN for use. atleast higher level WS's..
But I'd just like to throw arctic wind for a ws :). And ya know be able to do it again in a couple of min
in all seriousness drg has angon, while it's not a ws it's still throwing something to do something, which is what i was looking at for dnc and nin, doesnt have to do damage, but have a great affect which would make people want to use it regardless.
Asura.Yunalaysca said:
in all seriousness drg has angon, while it's not a ws it's still throwing something to do something, which is what i was looking at for dnc and nin, doesnt have to do damage, but have a great affect which would make people want to use it regardless.
would be cool if they made throwing weaponskills and introduced Juggler as a job in XI :D
Fenrir.Dink said:
would be cool if they made throwing weaponskills and introduced Juggler as a job in XI :D
I think if they did make throwing ws then they would then augment the items for that slot. I remember a long time ago they augmented morion tathlum and some other items so that you couldn't throw them.
Odin.Drblade said:
I think if they did make throwing ws then they would then augment the items for that slot. I remember a long time ago they augmented morion tathlum and some other items so that you couldn't throw them.
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