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 Bahamut.Lolserj
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By Bahamut.Lolserj 2011-03-28 18:24:45
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Cerberus.Irohuro said:
you cant add less sugar to the premade kool-aids
You could just buy the packets... and besides the premade stuff needs more sugar anyways
spoken like a true american.

it's true though
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-03-28 18:26:16
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Cerberus.Irohuro said:
you cant add less sugar to the premade kool-aids
you can add less pre-made koolaid which essentially would do the same.
or you can be a real american and get the normal packets on the cheap.

i want to move to europe anyways D=
(not france though, to be clear)
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-03-28 18:27:02
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Cerberus.Irohuro said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Cerberus.Irohuro said:
you cant add less sugar to the premade kool-aids
you can add less pre-made koolaid which essentially would do the same.
or you can be a real american and get the normal packets on the cheap.

i want to move to europe anyways D=
(not france though, to be clear)
didn't you know? when you go to europe you automatically have to go through france no matter what.
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-03-28 18:32:18
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thats ok, as long as i dont settle there
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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2011-03-28 18:33:18
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Cerberus.Irohuro said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Cerberus.Irohuro said:
you cant add less sugar to the premade kool-aids
you can add less pre-made koolaid which essentially would do the same.
or you can be a real american and get the normal packets on the cheap.

i want to move to europe anyways D=
(not france though, to be clear)
didn't you know? when you go to europe you automatically have to go through france no matter what.
I didn't! i flew over England right into Germany :D
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-03-28 18:34:31
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Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Cerberus.Irohuro said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Cerberus.Irohuro said:
you cant add less sugar to the premade kool-aids
you can add less pre-made koolaid which essentially would do the same.
or you can be a real american and get the normal packets on the cheap.

i want to move to europe anyways D=
(not france though, to be clear)
didn't you know? when you go to europe you automatically have to go through france no matter what.
I didn't! i flew over England right into Germany :D
you still went to france first.
they just didn't tell you about it.
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By Valefor.Nyota 2011-03-28 18:36:47
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Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Cerberus.Irohuro said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Cerberus.Irohuro said:
you cant add less sugar to the premade kool-aids
you can add less pre-made koolaid which essentially would do the same.
or you can be a real american and get the normal packets on the cheap.

i want to move to europe anyways D=
(not france though, to be clear)
didn't you know? when you go to europe you automatically have to go through france no matter what.
I didn't! i flew over England right into Germany :D

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By Quetzalcoatl.Volkom 2011-03-28 18:38:40
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Cerberus.Irohuro said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Cerberus.Irohuro said:
you cant add less sugar to the premade kool-aids
you can add less pre-made koolaid which essentially would do the same.
or you can be a real american and get the normal packets on the cheap.

i want to move to europe anyways D=
(not france though, to be clear)
didn't you know? when you go to europe you automatically have to go through france no matter what.
I didn't! i flew over England right into Germany :D
you still went to france first.
they just didn't tell you about it.
i'm pretty sure the pilot didn't say we're passing over france, or even the word france/french during the entire flight
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-03-28 18:39:35
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subliminal messaging yo
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-28 18:43:00
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Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
Cerberus.Irohuro said:
you cant add less sugar to the premade kool-aids
You could just buy the packets... and besides the premade stuff needs more sugar anyways
spoken like a true american.
Tbh it needs more flavoring too. Like what I drank as a kid and now if you follow the instructions seems so much more watered down and less sweet so almost have to add more.
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2011-03-28 19:01:20
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Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Quetzalcoatl.Volkom said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Cerberus.Irohuro said:
Ramuh.Vinvv said:
Cerberus.Irohuro said:
you cant add less sugar to the premade kool-aids
you can add less pre-made koolaid which essentially would do the same.
or you can be a real american and get the normal packets on the cheap.

i want to move to europe anyways D=
(not france though, to be clear)
didn't you know? when you go to europe you automatically have to go through france no matter what.
I didn't! i flew over England right into Germany :D
you still went to france first.
they just didn't tell you about it.
i'm pretty sure the pilot didn't say we're passing over france, or even the word france/french during the entire flight
exactly, they didn't say anything about it!
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By Wombat 2011-03-29 10:21:28
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Wombat said:
As the article goes on it talks about the Pentagon coverup quite a bit. That's where the real source of disappointment is, in my opinion.
Soldiers are brainwashed into being killers, I don't really blame them for lashing out like this. The military focuses on recruiting those who don't have many other promising opportunities--college, careers, etc. When you train generally undereducated people to think the way the military does, you've got to expect this. Which is why the higher-ups tried to cover it up. It's their fault and it calls the whole system into question.
Edit: Just to clarify, I don't think everyone who is, or has been in the military is undereducated or didn't have other options. I'm just saying, the recruiters often target people who fall into those categories.
statistically speaking, the average soldier is significantly more educated than the average civilian
natural result of attaching promotion points to college credits, and vehemently encouraging educational pursuits to the extent of paying all costs and offering time off from work to attend
i don't have any recollection of being brainwashed, personally
Sorry I typed that up real quick right before I left work. I had a feeling I didn't make clear what I was trying to get at.

I'm aware that the military accepts very few people with less than a high school diploma and they adamantly encourage further education. That's not exactly what I was talking about.

I meant that recruiters target people who see the military as their best option. By extension, you end up with people who are susceptible to the negative effects of conditioning one's mind in preparation for combat situations--which results in a type of brainwashing. Most people who join the service--in fact, probably the vast, vast majority--have too much sense to go overboard with the conditioning, and don't end up 'brainwashed killers.'

When you train people with narrow world views, and little to no philosophical roots how to be a soldier, you run the risk of them using these skills to satisfy their misguided ideals and you end up with situations like what happened here.

I'll go back to the idea of martial arts, since we started to talk about that the other day:
Basically every powerful martial arts style has a built-in philosophical system that restricts its usage, yet we still see people who ignore the philosophy and use it how they see fit. It's not the fighter's fault, it's the master who accepts them without gauging their personality first.

The same can be said of the military's combat training. Except, we're not just teaching them to fight hand-to-hand, we're putting combat weapons in their hands and hoping the philosophical background their given and the chain of command will restrict them from serving their own purposes. It doesn't always hash out that way, and I don't think enough is done to gauge these soldiers' (including officers) ideals prior to placing power into their hands.

(Sorry for the long and late post >.<)
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