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By Phoenix.Hagino 2011-03-15 17:08:39
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current set, i am looking to +2 my feet and use a jupiter's pearl once servers are back up X.x

Also would like to replace body with AF3+2 :(
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By Phoenix.Ryaan 2011-03-15 17:09:24
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tp bonus is only added to first hit, and based on ji''n description that would only increase the chance of crit on the first hit only. attack/acc wins over tp bonus
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2011-03-15 17:09:48
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Kannagi is ridiculously easy in comparison to Vere.

(Assuming Guku isn't a *** block.)
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2011-03-15 17:10:36
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Ifrit.Zerovirus said:
Str katana is probably what id go for while building kannagi, especially if you have nin feet +2.
This is exactly what I did. STR+9 Attack+20 and a DMG46 is pretty darn sexy.

Evasion Katana can come in handy, but I'm only 6 skins away from Kannagi85 so I don't think I'll be worrying about it any time soon.


Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
(Assuming Guku isn't a *** block.)
Guku IS the cockblock.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-15 17:10:45
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Phoenix.Ryaan said:
tp bonus is only added to first hit, and based on ji''n description that would only increase the chance of crit on the first hit only. attack/acc wins over tp bonus
fTP+0.1 =/= TP bonus, though you're right that other options are still better and that the increase is applied to the first hit only.
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2011-03-15 17:11:09
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Ditch the Delta, stick with Loki's(Personally I feel its better, could be horribly mistaken), other then that its pretty solid.
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By Phoenix.Ryaan 2011-03-15 17:11:53
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ya, fTP is what i meant
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-15 17:13:27
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Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
Kannagi is ridiculously easy in comparison to Vere.

(Assuming Guku isn't a *** block.)
Apademak :< Not hard but time consuming... But yeah 85 is a joke.

Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said:
Ifrit.Zerovirus said:
Str katana is probably what id go for while building kannagi, especially if you have nin feet +2.
This is exactly what I did. STR+9 Attack+20 and a DMG46 is pretty darn sexy.

Evasion Katana can come in handy, but I'm only 6 skins away from Kannagi85 so I don't think I'll be worrying about it any time soon.
I actually did AGI before STR. 24.5 eva in one slot is wonderful for soloing and it still adds a little to your DPS since Hi is AGI mod. My katana progression was Hocho/Kamome -> AGI/Kamome -> Kannagi/Kamome or Sekka +2 as appropriate.
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2011-03-15 17:14:25
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Apademak is more expensive than hard -.-
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2011-03-15 17:16:27
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said:
Ifrit.Zerovirus said:
Str katana is probably what id go for while building kannagi, especially if you have nin feet +2.
This is exactly what I did. STR+9 Attack+20 and a DMG46 is pretty darn sexy.

Evasion Katana can come in handy, but I'm only 6 skins away from Kannagi85 so I don't think I'll be worrying about it any time soon.
I actually did AGI before STR. 24.5 eva in one slot is wonderful for soloing and it still adds a little to your DPS since Hi is AGI mod. My katana progression was Hocho/Kamome -> AGI/Kamome -> Kannagi/Kamome or Sekka +2 as appropriate.
After I obtain the real Kannagi, I'll look into my options as far as maximizing my damage potential for Hi. I think right now I can put together a decent set, but it is far from perfect.

The AGI Sekka +2 is pretty easy to get compared to STR, right?
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By Phoenix.Hagino 2011-03-15 17:17:24
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Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
Ditch the Delta, stick with Loki's(Personally I feel its better, could be horribly mistaken), other then that its pretty solid.

im holding on to the delta until my jupiter pearl from thf gets made~


vs
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By Ifrit.Zerovirus 2011-03-15 17:20:24
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
Kannagi is ridiculously easy in comparison to Vere.

(Assuming Guku isn't a *** block.)
Apademak :< Not hard but time consuming... But yeah 85 is a joke.

Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said:
Ifrit.Zerovirus said:
Str katana is probably what id go for while building kannagi, especially if you have nin feet +2.
This is exactly what I did. STR+9 Attack+20 and a DMG46 is pretty darn sexy.

Evasion Katana can come in handy, but I'm only 6 skins away from Kannagi85 so I don't think I'll be worrying about it any time soon.
I actually did AGI before STR. 24.5 eva in one slot is wonderful for soloing and it still adds a little to your DPS since Hi is AGI mod. My katana progression was Hocho/Kamome -> AGI/Kamome -> Kannagi/Kamome or Sekka +2 as appropriate.

Agi katana is a great route, sometimes I feel the evasion is a bit unneeded when you have GH yonin and af+2 feet on/up. One this is for sure slap on a sekka +2 agi katana and tanking just became child's play (over exaggeration for sure, but I find myself being more lazy with agi equiped rather than str)
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2011-03-15 17:23:22
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Ifrit.Zerovirus said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
Kannagi is ridiculously easy in comparison to Vere.

(Assuming Guku isn't a *** block.)
Apademak :< Not hard but time consuming... But yeah 85 is a joke.

Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said:
Ifrit.Zerovirus said:
Str katana is probably what id go for while building kannagi, especially if you have nin feet +2.
This is exactly what I did. STR+9 Attack+20 and a DMG46 is pretty darn sexy.

Evasion Katana can come in handy, but I'm only 6 skins away from Kannagi85 so I don't think I'll be worrying about it any time soon.
I actually did AGI before STR. 24.5 eva in one slot is wonderful for soloing and it still adds a little to your DPS since Hi is AGI mod. My katana progression was Hocho/Kamome -> AGI/Kamome -> Kannagi/Kamome or Sekka +2 as appropriate.

Agi katana is a great route, sometimes I feel the evasion is a bit unneeded when you have GH yonin and af+2 feet on/up. One this is for sure slap on a sekka +2 agi katana and tanking just became child's play (over exaggeration for sure, but I find myself being more lazy with agi equiped rather than str)
There are very few mobs I feel I need to throw on my evasion set for anymore. Like you said, with GH + Yonin, Empyrean Feet +2... extra evasion seems unnecessary. I also have my own pocket WHM. However, Nightfyre brought up a good point with the AGI mod for Blade: Hi.
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By Ifrit.Zerovirus 2011-03-15 17:25:44
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Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said:
Ifrit.Zerovirus said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
Kannagi is ridiculously easy in comparison to Vere.

(Assuming Guku isn't a *** block.)
Apademak :< Not hard but time consuming... But yeah 85 is a joke.

Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said:
Ifrit.Zerovirus said:
Str katana is probably what id go for while building kannagi, especially if you have nin feet +2.
This is exactly what I did. STR+9 Attack+20 and a DMG46 is pretty darn sexy.

Evasion Katana can come in handy, but I'm only 6 skins away from Kannagi85 so I don't think I'll be worrying about it any time soon.
I actually did AGI before STR. 24.5 eva in one slot is wonderful for soloing and it still adds a little to your DPS since Hi is AGI mod. My katana progression was Hocho/Kamome -> AGI/Kamome -> Kannagi/Kamome or Sekka +2 as appropriate.

Agi katana is a great route, sometimes I feel the evasion is a bit unneeded when you have GH yonin and af+2 feet on/up. One this is for sure slap on a sekka +2 agi katana and tanking just became child's play (over exaggeration for sure, but I find myself being more lazy with agi equiped rather than str)
There are very few mobs I feel I need to throw on my evasion set for anymore. Like you said, with GH + Yonin, Empyrean Feet +2... extra evasion seems unnecessary. I also have my own pocket WHM. However, Nightfyre brought up a good point with the AGI mod for Blade: Hi.

Should be Kannagi/Kamome unless you really need the extra evasion.

9 agi < 10% increase crit damage
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2011-03-15 17:26:40
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Phoenix.Ryaan said:
ya, fTP is what i meant

You still aren't understanding this correctly. The gorgets and belts add damage always regardless of the weaponskill description it does not add crit chance to jin.
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2011-03-15 17:28:53
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Phoenix.Hagino said:
Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
Ditch the Delta, stick with Loki's(Personally I feel its better, could be horribly mistaken), other then that its pretty solid.

im holding on to the delta until my jupiter pearl from thf gets made~


vs

Dont bother wasting your gil or time on that earring just get the centerion as night already mentioned better and cheaper.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-15 17:47:50
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Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said:
The AGI Sekka +2 is pretty easy to get compared to STR, right?
Very. Diremite trial might take a couple days depending on weather but that's it iirc.

Ifrit.Zerovirus said:
Should be Kannagi/Kamome unless you really need the extra evasion.

9 agi < 10% increase crit damage
Yeah, I was mentioning it more as an incidental bonus. Most of the time I'm fine with Kannagi/Kamome but for example if I need a bit more eva for a Heroes NM (Azdaja, Indrik, etc) I'd use the eva katana to minimize sacrifices in gear elsewhere/atmas or to go all-out with evasion if Azdaja decides to dispel my cruor buffs.
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By Phoenix.Hagino 2011-03-15 18:50:37
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Bismarck.Maxse said:
Phoenix.Hagino said:
Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
Ditch the Delta, stick with Loki's(Personally I feel its better, could be horribly mistaken), other then that its pretty solid.

im holding on to the delta until my jupiter pearl from thf gets made~


vs

Dont bother wasting your gil or time on that earring just get the centerion as night already mentioned better and cheaper.


Im a thf main
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By Ifrit.Zerovirus 2011-03-15 19:30:37
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Phoenix.Hagino said:
Bismarck.Maxse said:
Phoenix.Hagino said:
Ragnarok.Nemesio said:
Ditch the Delta, stick with Loki's(Personally I feel its better, could be horribly mistaken), other then that its pretty solid.

im holding on to the delta until my jupiter pearl from thf gets made~


vs

Dont bother wasting your gil or time on that earring just get the centerion as night already mentioned better and cheaper.


Im a thf main

get both?
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By Phoenix.Hagino 2011-03-15 19:32:47
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inventory becomes an issue~ woudlnt think 4 dex would be so bad though~ more crit gogo!
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By Ifrit.Zerovirus 2011-03-15 19:34:31
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Phoenix.Hagino said:
inventory becomes an issue~ woudlnt think 4 dex would be so bad though~ more crit gogo!

your crit is more than likely capped in abyssea
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