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Blade: Jin Build
Phoenix.Hagino
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By Phoenix.Hagino 2011-03-15 17:08:39
current set, i am looking to +2 my feet and use a jupiter's pearl once servers are back up X.x
Also would like to replace body with AF3+2 :(
Phoenix.Ryaan
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By Phoenix.Ryaan 2011-03-15 17:09:24
tp bonus is only added to first hit, and based on ji''n description that would only increase the chance of crit on the first hit only. attack/acc wins over tp bonus
Ragnarok.Nemesio
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2011-03-15 17:09:48
Kannagi is ridiculously easy in comparison to Vere.
(Assuming Guku isn't a *** block.)
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2011-03-15 17:10:36
Ifrit.Zerovirus said: Str katana is probably what id go for while building kannagi, especially if you have nin feet +2. This is exactly what I did. STR+9 Attack+20 and a DMG46 is pretty darn sexy.
Evasion Katana can come in handy, but I'm only 6 skins away from Kannagi85 so I don't think I'll be worrying about it any time soon.
Ragnarok.Nemesio said: (Assuming Guku isn't a *** block.) Guku IS the cockblock.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-15 17:10:45
Phoenix.Ryaan said: tp bonus is only added to first hit, and based on ji''n description that would only increase the chance of crit on the first hit only. attack/acc wins over tp bonus fTP+0.1 =/= TP bonus, though you're right that other options are still better and that the increase is applied to the first hit only.
Ragnarok.Nemesio
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2011-03-15 17:11:09
Ditch the Delta, stick with Loki's(Personally I feel its better, could be horribly mistaken), other then that its pretty solid.
Phoenix.Ryaan
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By Phoenix.Ryaan 2011-03-15 17:11:53
ya, fTP is what i meant
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-15 17:13:27
Ragnarok.Nemesio said: Kannagi is ridiculously easy in comparison to Vere.
(Assuming Guku isn't a *** block.) Apademak :< Not hard but time consuming... But yeah 85 is a joke.
Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said: Ifrit.Zerovirus said: Str katana is probably what id go for while building kannagi, especially if you have nin feet +2. This is exactly what I did. STR+9 Attack+20 and a DMG46 is pretty darn sexy.
Evasion Katana can come in handy, but I'm only 6 skins away from Kannagi85 so I don't think I'll be worrying about it any time soon. I actually did AGI before STR. 24.5 eva in one slot is wonderful for soloing and it still adds a little to your DPS since Hi is AGI mod. My katana progression was Hocho/Kamome -> AGI/Kamome -> Kannagi/Kamome or Sekka +2 as appropriate.
Ragnarok.Nemesio
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2011-03-15 17:14:25
Apademak is more expensive than hard -.-
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2011-03-15 17:16:27
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said: Ifrit.Zerovirus said: Str katana is probably what id go for while building kannagi, especially if you have nin feet +2. This is exactly what I did. STR+9 Attack+20 and a DMG46 is pretty darn sexy.
Evasion Katana can come in handy, but I'm only 6 skins away from Kannagi85 so I don't think I'll be worrying about it any time soon. I actually did AGI before STR. 24.5 eva in one slot is wonderful for soloing and it still adds a little to your DPS since Hi is AGI mod. My katana progression was Hocho/Kamome -> AGI/Kamome -> Kannagi/Kamome or Sekka +2 as appropriate. After I obtain the real Kannagi, I'll look into my options as far as maximizing my damage potential for Hi. I think right now I can put together a decent set, but it is far from perfect.
The AGI Sekka +2 is pretty easy to get compared to STR, right?
Phoenix.Hagino
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By Phoenix.Hagino 2011-03-15 17:17:24
Ragnarok.Nemesio said: Ditch the Delta, stick with Loki's(Personally I feel its better, could be horribly mistaken), other then that its pretty solid.
im holding on to the delta until my jupiter pearl from thf gets made~
vs
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By Ifrit.Zerovirus 2011-03-15 17:20:24
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Ragnarok.Nemesio said: Kannagi is ridiculously easy in comparison to Vere.
(Assuming Guku isn't a *** block.) Apademak :< Not hard but time consuming... But yeah 85 is a joke.
Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said: Ifrit.Zerovirus said: Str katana is probably what id go for while building kannagi, especially if you have nin feet +2. This is exactly what I did. STR+9 Attack+20 and a DMG46 is pretty darn sexy.
Evasion Katana can come in handy, but I'm only 6 skins away from Kannagi85 so I don't think I'll be worrying about it any time soon. I actually did AGI before STR. 24.5 eva in one slot is wonderful for soloing and it still adds a little to your DPS since Hi is AGI mod. My katana progression was Hocho/Kamome -> AGI/Kamome -> Kannagi/Kamome or Sekka +2 as appropriate.
Agi katana is a great route, sometimes I feel the evasion is a bit unneeded when you have GH yonin and af+2 feet on/up. One this is for sure slap on a sekka +2 agi katana and tanking just became child's play (over exaggeration for sure, but I find myself being more lazy with agi equiped rather than str)
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2011-03-15 17:23:22
Ifrit.Zerovirus said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Ragnarok.Nemesio said: Kannagi is ridiculously easy in comparison to Vere.
(Assuming Guku isn't a *** block.) Apademak :< Not hard but time consuming... But yeah 85 is a joke.
Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said: Ifrit.Zerovirus said: Str katana is probably what id go for while building kannagi, especially if you have nin feet +2. This is exactly what I did. STR+9 Attack+20 and a DMG46 is pretty darn sexy.
Evasion Katana can come in handy, but I'm only 6 skins away from Kannagi85 so I don't think I'll be worrying about it any time soon. I actually did AGI before STR. 24.5 eva in one slot is wonderful for soloing and it still adds a little to your DPS since Hi is AGI mod. My katana progression was Hocho/Kamome -> AGI/Kamome -> Kannagi/Kamome or Sekka +2 as appropriate.
Agi katana is a great route, sometimes I feel the evasion is a bit unneeded when you have GH yonin and af+2 feet on/up. One this is for sure slap on a sekka +2 agi katana and tanking just became child's play (over exaggeration for sure, but I find myself being more lazy with agi equiped rather than str) There are very few mobs I feel I need to throw on my evasion set for anymore. Like you said, with GH + Yonin, Empyrean Feet +2... extra evasion seems unnecessary. I also have my own pocket WHM. However, Nightfyre brought up a good point with the AGI mod for Blade: Hi.
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By Ifrit.Zerovirus 2011-03-15 17:25:44
Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said: Ifrit.Zerovirus said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Ragnarok.Nemesio said: Kannagi is ridiculously easy in comparison to Vere.
(Assuming Guku isn't a *** block.) Apademak :< Not hard but time consuming... But yeah 85 is a joke.
Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said: Ifrit.Zerovirus said: Str katana is probably what id go for while building kannagi, especially if you have nin feet +2. This is exactly what I did. STR+9 Attack+20 and a DMG46 is pretty darn sexy.
Evasion Katana can come in handy, but I'm only 6 skins away from Kannagi85 so I don't think I'll be worrying about it any time soon. I actually did AGI before STR. 24.5 eva in one slot is wonderful for soloing and it still adds a little to your DPS since Hi is AGI mod. My katana progression was Hocho/Kamome -> AGI/Kamome -> Kannagi/Kamome or Sekka +2 as appropriate.
Agi katana is a great route, sometimes I feel the evasion is a bit unneeded when you have GH yonin and af+2 feet on/up. One this is for sure slap on a sekka +2 agi katana and tanking just became child's play (over exaggeration for sure, but I find myself being more lazy with agi equiped rather than str) There are very few mobs I feel I need to throw on my evasion set for anymore. Like you said, with GH + Yonin, Empyrean Feet +2... extra evasion seems unnecessary. I also have my own pocket WHM. However, Nightfyre brought up a good point with the AGI mod for Blade: Hi.
Should be Kannagi/Kamome unless you really need the extra evasion.
9 agi < 10% increase crit damage
Bismarck.Maxse
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2011-03-15 17:26:40
Phoenix.Ryaan said: ya, fTP is what i meant
You still aren't understanding this correctly. The gorgets and belts add damage always regardless of the weaponskill description it does not add crit chance to jin.
Bismarck.Maxse
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2011-03-15 17:28:53
Phoenix.Hagino said: Ragnarok.Nemesio said: Ditch the Delta, stick with Loki's(Personally I feel its better, could be horribly mistaken), other then that its pretty solid.
im holding on to the delta until my jupiter pearl from thf gets made~
vs
Dont bother wasting your gil or time on that earring just get the centerion as night already mentioned better and cheaper.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-15 17:47:50
Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said: The AGI Sekka +2 is pretty easy to get compared to STR, right? Very. Diremite trial might take a couple days depending on weather but that's it iirc.
Ifrit.Zerovirus said: Should be Kannagi/Kamome unless you really need the extra evasion.
9 agi < 10% increase crit damage Yeah, I was mentioning it more as an incidental bonus. Most of the time I'm fine with Kannagi/Kamome but for example if I need a bit more eva for a Heroes NM (Azdaja, Indrik, etc) I'd use the eva katana to minimize sacrifices in gear elsewhere/atmas or to go all-out with evasion if Azdaja decides to dispel my cruor buffs.
Phoenix.Hagino
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By Phoenix.Hagino 2011-03-15 18:50:37
Bismarck.Maxse said: Phoenix.Hagino said: Ragnarok.Nemesio said: Ditch the Delta, stick with Loki's(Personally I feel its better, could be horribly mistaken), other then that its pretty solid.
im holding on to the delta until my jupiter pearl from thf gets made~
vs
Dont bother wasting your gil or time on that earring just get the centerion as night already mentioned better and cheaper.
Im a thf main
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By Ifrit.Zerovirus 2011-03-15 19:30:37
Phoenix.Hagino said: Bismarck.Maxse said: Phoenix.Hagino said: Ragnarok.Nemesio said: Ditch the Delta, stick with Loki's(Personally I feel its better, could be horribly mistaken), other then that its pretty solid.
im holding on to the delta until my jupiter pearl from thf gets made~
vs
Dont bother wasting your gil or time on that earring just get the centerion as night already mentioned better and cheaper.
Im a thf main
get both?
Phoenix.Hagino
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By Phoenix.Hagino 2011-03-15 19:32:47
inventory becomes an issue~ woudlnt think 4 dex would be so bad though~ more crit gogo!
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By Ifrit.Zerovirus 2011-03-15 19:34:31
Phoenix.Hagino said: inventory becomes an issue~ woudlnt think 4 dex would be so bad though~ more crit gogo!
your crit is more than likely capped in abyssea
I was just curious to see what are others Blade: Jin builds all i have been seeing laitly is Blade: Hi, everybody has that working on mine at the moment. But for the meantime what are some of your Blade Jin builds?
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