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Q:Iga Attire Set+2 and katana combination
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By Kujata.Savain 2011-03-04 10:20:18
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Been wondering, the full set bonuses from AF3+2 for jobs with melee attributes seem to have a low activation rate. Because the sets are typically the best armor for that slot, people tend to go for 4/5 or 5/5. THF can hit 24% haste while maintaining 5/5, though TA activation is 10% (+atma, additional TA gear), and only what, 5% (if I'm being generous) of those TA hits will do extra damage.

That being said my question is, has anyone done a numerical calculation/test to see which set is better for Ninja: full Iga+2 (25% haste), or Iga+2 / Ninja Chainmail+1 / Dusk Gloves/+1/Ocelot Gloves / not Tiercel Necklace?

Also assuming the ninja is mainhanding a :Hi weapon, what would be best offhand both inside and outside abyssea?

I think more haste / wield will be better, like how with full haste I use iga earring over brutal for better DoT, and I think :Hi/OaT-4 would be good in all situations because of the subtle blow NIN has access to, but those are just intuitive ideas from my experience as NIN.
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By Ifrit.Zerovirus 2011-03-04 10:44:30
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Full Iga +2 is not 25% haste, it's 17% and even with twilight belt your only at 24% haste. Replace iga hands with ocelot gloves and your good. And could be wrong but 1% DW is not better than 5% DA for tp or ws.

edit: In abyssea Kamome in offhand or gtfo.
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By Wafflechan 2011-03-04 13:12:02
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Perfect nin, no? Even though I'm sure some math nerd is going to bust in and tell me "U SUX, EPONA'S IS 0.xxx% BETTER THAN BLITZ!!" Inb4that.
Personally, I find the +2 items bonuses too good to pass up, unless I needed evasion or pdt/mdt depending on how the situation warrants.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-03-04 13:14:08
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Wafflechan said:

Perfect nin, no? Even though I'm sure some math nerd is going to bust in and tell me "U SUX, EPONA'S IS 0.xxx% BETTER THAN BLITZ!!" Inb4that.
Personally, I find the +2 items bonuses too good to pass up, unless I needed evasion or pdt/mdt depending on how the situation warrants.

NIN cant use blitz.
Brutal is better than Iga earring, just 1% DW..
Use tiercel necklace over Iga and you'r atleast on 25% haste.
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By Wafflechan 2011-03-04 13:15:53
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Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Wafflechan said:
Perfect nin, no? Even though I'm sure some math nerd is going to bust in and tell me "U SUX, EPONA'S IS 0.xxx% BETTER THAN BLITZ!!" Inb4that. Personally, I find the +2 items bonuses too good to pass up, unless I needed evasion or pdt/mdt depending on how the situation warrants.
NIN cant use blitz. Brutal is better than Iga earring, just 1% DW.. Use tiercel necklace over Iga and you'r atleast on 25% haste.
Oo naps, I did not see that, thank you. Time to edit that :V.

EDIT: Fixed it, but yeah, twas in a rush, not looking at things.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-03-04 13:19:40
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Qirmiz tathlum -> bomb core inside abyssea too ;O
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2011-03-04 13:21:31
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ITT: You can use Ranged and Ammo items a the same time!
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-03-04 13:22:48
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Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said:
ITT: You can use Ranged and Ammo items a the same time!

I just assumed he ment it as "either or depending on if I need the evasion" :p
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By Lakshmi.Aurilius 2011-03-04 13:22:57
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I must learn your ways. I've been trying to use a boomerang and ammo slot all these years, and mine never works.

Please teach me!
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By Titan.Ardiem 2011-03-04 13:23:00
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You're also using Bomb Core AND Ungur Boomerang. Thats probably just to denote one or the other though?

Personally I like using Qirmiz Tathlum for my ranged slot, but I also think Fire Bomblet is acceptable.
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By Wafflechan 2011-03-04 13:23:38
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Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said:
ITT: You can use Ranged and Ammo items a the same time!
I just assumed he ment it as "either or depending on if I need the evasion" :p
^ this
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By Ragnarok.Nemesio 2011-03-04 13:50:38
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Dusk+1 hands, Usu boots, Agasaya's collar are the best combo. If you are looking for the best.

edit: And Ninja Chainmail, oops.
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-03-04 13:53:01
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As for the THF question earlier. In abyssea when I 5/5 af3+2, I have ~35% triple attack rate, and my set bonus procs very often. It is definitely worth using 5/5 in abyssea with tiercel for 24% haste.

Outside abyssea it's iffy because of the lower Triple attack rate.
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