Atheists

You have a House avatar, you can't discuss religion other than to strictly criticize it.

Denominations I thought..

Hubology!


...anyone get that?

Oh, yeah I think that's it. D:

Hence why I vote for determinism.

I took a World Religions class a few years ago, and I realized that out of every religion out there, in my opinion, if there were any organized religion I would consider joining would be Jainism

In a nutshell, it's complete pacifism. In some degree, I could never join, because I'm a carnivore. But the idea is nice. No harm to anyone or anything save the plants you eat. It's a nice idea (like Communism) but as long as there are greedy people, something like that would never be implemented correctly. But in a perfect world, something like that would make things more peaceful.

without god's roadmap for your life

it's really the only place you'll end up

The answer is obvious. I'd be a Viking.

And you think secular means don't tell the same fictional stories to teach morals? The only difference between a religion and secular means is the religion uses their stories to bolster a supreme being in a specific theology. As I have said before, you can't prove or disprove a God or Gods exists. So what if people utilize religion as a means to try and stay within their God's or Gods' good graces and stay on a moral path? Atheists just hold morals to their own standards instead of fearing a God or Gods.

I'd follow the ways of Daleism.

Basically, when you follow Daleism, you are automatically awesome.

Still waiting...

Also, damn you Flion.. Making a religion thread!

how else do you expect us to save souls

Not even that Flash animated intro was enough to get Slipi to consider conversion. ;_;

/power of Flash compels me ;_;

With free sex.

as long as it's not premarital

According to my belief, this life is our hell. Life can suck, it gets infinitely better on the other side.

But having to marry everyone wouldn't work! D:

With resistance credits

Waiting for what? Did I anywhere in that post say you were wrong?

So once you get married you can have sex with anyone anytime?

Hinduism.

HALLOWED ARE THE ORI!!!

In all seriousness, give me the Aesir.

Norse, our god dies being eaten by a big dog.

I always kind of liked determinism myself. I am not sure that I am completely sold on it, but I do confidently believe that the world is highly, or mostly, deterministic. The main argument I remember discussing in my metaphysics class that makes me hesitant to jump completely on board went something like this:

- Assume that determinism is true.
- If this is the case, then given all the relevant knowledge of a situation, we can predict the outcome.
- Now, assume that someone has the means to know all the relevant knowledge of a situation.
- Given this, can this person change the outcome?
- If yes, then it wasn't truly determined, and if no, then what exactly is it preventing him or her from doing so? Certainly the predicted outcome for, for example, how long a pencil will be on the table without it being moved is something that is physically possible for someone to change.

I know that we can argue that we can never have absolute knowledge. My problem with this is that it is not logically impossible to know everything. So, maybe the fact that it is physically impossible is what makes determinism the case. Perhaps determinism is dependent on this, and so the existence of determinism is contingent and not necessary (necessary at least in terms of this world). Or, perhaps the above argument is flawed because it is representing "prediction" in a false way.

I really don't know. I go back and forth on it, sometimes thinking that the world is only highly deterministic and that our consciousness is proof that it is not 100% so, while other times I think that our knowledge and consciousness just make the world seem non-deterministic.

Of course, then again, I suppose different people think differently about what determinism is. I take it to be the idea that given the past/present and the laws of nature, everything can be determined. For example, the next move I make essentially has to happen, and this can be predicted by what has happened up until my next move and the natural laws. That is the way I kind of see it, though perhaps not laid out as nicely as it could have been.

But, yea, determinism is certainly appealing to me (at least to some degree), and extremely interesting.

If it were based on proven fact then it wouldn't be classified as religion, it would be fact. Therefore, you're awaiting an impossible example to a paradoxial question...

My answer is that those "choices" we make were actually predermined as well. Including our attempts to change them. I also like it because it offers credible explanation for things like deja vu and people seeming to have some kind of future knowledge sometimes

i think this except more of a there's multiple dimensions going on at the same time for every little choice

essentially an infinite amount of dimensions

Considering athiesm is a religion what's happening to force them to change religions.

A forced belief in some form of higher being (in this hypothetical thread)