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 Siren.Quagmire
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By Siren.Quagmire 2011-02-21 03:46:47
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Would like to find some ppl who have side by side #s on meb sets vs the old mdb sets. Would mainly appreciate factual #s over formulas.
Don't have the brain compacity right now to figure them out even with a pen and paper ; ;
I haven't done any testing myself (yet) so sorry if the titles missleading.
Thanks if you do. flame away if you don't. =D
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-02-21 03:49:01
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meb? magic evasion?
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By Odin.Blazza 2011-02-21 03:49:33
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I assume you mean Magic Evasion?

Edit: Damn you Kvazz
 
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-21 03:52:32
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If you are referrring to magic evasion it does the same thing as resist except for all elements... and the resist set vs MDB has been done to death and is situational
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-02-21 03:54:15
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Odin.Blazza said:
I assume you mean Magic Evasion?

Edit: Damn you Kvazz

lol @ you <3
 
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By Siren.Quagmire 2011-02-21 04:30:19
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Yar, just meant magic evasion. Looking at the trials of magians and reading the formulas written I was wondering now if magic evasion sets are the way to go.
Using crappy iPhone to write and check these posts. It's not easy to edit/look for typos on it.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-21 04:31:35
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Magic evasion/resist sets are only good if you get enough to actually make you resist whatever it is which usually requires decent amount of stacking
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By Odin.Blazza 2011-02-21 04:40:50
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So black ribbon is basically just ME+12?
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-21 04:53:19
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Odin.Blazza said:
So black ribbon is basically just ME+12?
Pretty much. Not sure if they tested if it counts for barstatus too
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By Odin.Hevans 2011-02-21 05:00:41
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i don't have anything relevant to add other than, wtf quagmire you still have no pc? posting on the loliphone? also, i miss your smelly, special k snorting, obnoxious ***.
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By Leviathan.Pimpchan 2011-02-21 08:52:57
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If you totalize 400 magic evasion and the mob has 400 magic accuracy, you resist 50% of it's spells. If you downgrade to 390 magic evasion, you resist 40% of the time, with 380 meva you resist 30% of the time ... With 345 meva you resist 5% of the time, this is the cap. If you increase your magic evasion past 400 it's half has good : with 410 you resist 55% of the time ... with 490 meva you resist 95% of the time.

The hard part is reaching the mobs' macc minus 45. For info at 75 even match mobs had ~ 275 magic acc (let's say BLM mobs) while you had ~130 base meva. At level 90, even match mobs should have ~ 360 magic accuracy and you should have ~ 215 magic evasion (~ +4 meva per level). This means that you still need +100 magic evasion to start seeing results. Besically barspells from RDM are about enough to make the next 50 elemental resists match -50% magic damage taken and the next 100 another -50%. At higher levels mobs will have ~5 magic accuracy gain per level probably (similar to players) so against typical +7 level mobs you need ~35 more magic evasion :


weak mobs (<= level 90) : barspell + x elemental resist = -x% magic damage taken if x <= 50 and -50% -(x-50)/2 % if x >=50.
strong mobs : require ~ 270 to cap out resist, 180 to resist half of them.


What's cool with magic eva is that you can almost nullify the damage unlike typcial mdt.


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By Odin.Blazza 2011-02-21 09:17:07
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Where the hell do you get +100 to +150 in magic evasion gear to test this?
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-21 09:19:37
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You can't. Think they just tested meva vs resist or applicable stat once the actually meva gear came out but the formulas working that out I beleive were tested and made before there was meva gear
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2011-02-21 09:21:35
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
mevv
meva?
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-21 09:22:55
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Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said:
Bahamut.Dasva said:
mevv
meva?
whoops. Hey at least I didn't do MEB!
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By Remora.Laphine 2011-02-21 10:01:53
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130 was the base magic eva at 75? Wasn't it 230? i remember seeing somewhere that our base magic evasion is equivalent to a c skill rating.
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By Leviathan.Pimpchan 2011-02-21 11:26:14
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Odin.Blazza said:


Where the hell do you get +100 to +150 in magic evasion gear to test this?

who said you only had to use gear meva only ¿ Barfire is a spell I hear, so is addle.
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By Leviathan.Pimpchan 2011-02-21 11:28:29
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
You can't. Think they just tested meva vs resist or applicable stat once the actually meva gear came out but the formulas working that out I beleive were tested and made before there was meva gear

1 fire resist works the opposite way as 1 magic accuracy, and 1 meva being the same as 1 fire resist to all element is speculation.
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By Siren.Quagmire 2011-02-22 02:20:37
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No real flames some pitiful bantering and no one has done a test. Le~sigh...
Haha hevans. Looky-looky ya gots yar name back. Lulz at remembering the kitty powder days (god I miss them).
Lol still for the troll you trolled.
Well, aside from the chat chit, I'll post any findings on magic evasion compared to mdb.
Got nothing but time so I'll make a couple weapons with mdb and m.e. If anyone cares.
Reaces peaces.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-22 03:02:41
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The testing was done awhile ago. If you want to see it done again do it yourself. Because no one is going to go thru macc/meva testing when info is already out there. It is a very long exhausting process. And pretty much has to be redone for each mob. If you actually read thru the post you'd have your answer
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By Ragnarok.Nekonarf 2011-02-22 03:11:40
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great then I can sit and watch a DNC in the near future not only take forever to evasion solo stuff but now magic evasion? -.- I give up.
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By Siren.Quagmire 2011-02-23 21:25:33
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Read through which post, not real easy sorting and reading 1000s of post. And who the he'll said I was doing this for my dnc o.O?
Bah... Forget I asked.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-02-23 21:28:20
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Good thing about 10 post on the subject here
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By Ragnarok.Nekonarf 2011-02-23 21:41:59
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Siren.Quagmire said:
Read through which post, not real easy sorting and reading 1000s of post. And who the he'll said I was doing this for my dnc o.O?
Bah... Forget I asked.


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