VNMs Have A "Criteria"?

So the other day while I was at work my friend was working on getting a Colorful Abyssite and was having horrible luck. 0/20, 0/30, 0/40.

Finally 0/50 rolls around and he decides to call a GM since we were under the impression it was either or glitch or just ***.

4 kills later GM replies, and this ensues:



Now I've dealt with this GM quite a few times and he's pretty boss, but I can't tell if he's just trolling or if there's seriously some kind of secret "criteria" to upgrade from Clear to Colorful.

My current theory is that the "criteria" requires both magical and physical damage, but that's because it's the only thing I could think of.

What do you guys think?

(These were in the normal zones, not Abyssea, though I assume the same criteria would apply)

random number generators are so random lolz

Basically he was one of the GMs that have never played the game and used a generic you aren't doing it right check the community sites. The best part is when you tell them you already have and it's not there...

Sounds like a load of *** to me. Also, can definitely say a mix of damage types isn't required for upgrading.

are you seriously having this discussion right now?

op is real dumb for still questioning the ffxi RNG in 2011


im 0/5 on bounding boots qq time to call a gm its borked!


and yes GMs dont know everything/anything? about this game! /gasp!

You gotta proc red to get the ki.

I wound up 1/652 on Bounding Boots just before Abyssea was released :3


On topic, I've gone 1/112 on T1 VNMs in Abyssea, trying to get Brooder pops for my Serpentes Sabots, and yes it sucks hardcore. I believe its completely random but more than 20+ is ridiculus >.<

Oh yeah I took over 100 to get change to color abyssite in abyssea the other day

nope
upgraded to brown while doing h2h VNM trials, while in ru'lude i got another clear and popped some t1's while group was looking for t2.
went 1/3 wih mnk/war and upgraded to gray doing chesma

later for katana went 1/1 and 1/2 on colorful as nin/war

"criteria" is: you have to not want the colorful/specific colored abyssites. that's when they always change. when you want them to, they won't.

I think hes onto something here...

i tested this. it's true.


















(not really, but seriously, that's what always happens >_> <_<)

It's totally true, for a while I was killing T1's to farm lights because they were reported to give extra (in Visions zones), I kept upgrading to colorful in just a few kills. But when I actually WANT the colorful? Holy ***, I had one clear abyssite for about a month because it just kept refusing to change.

inorite...

my worst record is 1/239 when I was working on my Occ Atk. Twice GKT

Must be bad luck for you all, I seem to get T2 and T3 pops in 10 kills or less

GMs are separated far enough from the Dev team that they don't have any more insight into the game than we do. I wouldn't read too much into his comment.

Sounds like ***.

This was pretty much how I looked at it. But just thought maybe someone had some insight.

Edit: Some insight that wasn't "OP is a retard".

Baccanale has never been too great of a GM either. He tries to be the white knight, giving warnings and jailing for the dumbest of reasons. There was a topic on here within the last year or two about Baccanale sending people to jail for using the Alt-0153 code to make the (™) symbol. Apparently to him, that means you're using 3rd party tools.

Edit- Slightly more on topic, I think you're just having bad luck. I recently met up with a guy to do VNMs and he had apparently killed more than 60 tier1's without an upgrade. It only took me ~30 kills to get mine and we were both killing at the same time in different zones. That was about a month before yesterdays update.

You have to have to kill them with either Holy or Banish III to gain the Colorful Abyssite.

The other day I went 1/1 from T1 to T2, then 1/1 from T2 to T3, then got another clear and went 1/1 from T1 to T2