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 Sylph.Darkside
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By Sylph.Darkside 2011-01-20 03:20:34
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Doing Salvage and can't seem to get Ramparts to pop the NM at all. Last 4 runs we have gone to Bhaf Remnants we did Ramparts on Floor 1,2, and 4 each time. NO NMS.... Anyone know any tricks to getting them to pop?
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-01-20 03:24:52
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There is no trick, random is random.
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By Asura.Dtroyy 2011-01-20 03:25:19
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Luck.
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2011-01-20 03:30:57
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Sylph.Kimble said:
There is no trick, random is random.

Lies, I'll tell you my secret. Since I figured it out, it has worked every time.

Open with flash on the 2nd floor rampart. You'll always get a bee NM spawn. I'm not kidding either. Every single time since I figured it out, it has spawned 1+ nms. I did a bajillion bhaflaus before it, then a bajillion after, and it has worked every time. I totally believe it.
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By Diabolos.Sovereign 2011-01-20 03:57:45
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Leviathan.Hohenheim said:
Sylph.Kimble said:
There is no trick, random is random.

Lies, I'll tell you my secret. Since I figured it out, it has worked every time.

Open with flash on the 2nd floor rampart. You'll always get a bee NM spawn. I'm not kidding either. Every single time since I figured it out, it has spawned 1+ nms. I did a bajillion bhaflaus before it, then a bajillion after, and it has worked every time. I totally believe it.

Oh god here we go... lol
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2011-01-20 04:35:25
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Diabolos.Sovereign said:
Leviathan.Hohenheim said:
Sylph.Kimble said:
There is no trick, random is random.

Lies, I'll tell you my secret. Since I figured it out, it has worked every time.

Open with flash on the 2nd floor rampart. You'll always get a bee NM spawn. I'm not kidding either. Every single time since I figured it out, it has spawned 1+ nms. I did a bajillion bhaflaus before it, then a bajillion after, and it has worked every time. I totally believe it.

Oh god here we go... lol

It's true! ;_;!
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By Asura.Clickclack 2011-01-20 04:35:57
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the trick is you have to go in on windsday, full moon and claim the rampart at 6:00 (game time) with mug facing NE and have exactly 4 members in your pty.

p.s. results may vary depending on luck
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By Bismarck.Tuvae 2011-01-20 04:55:17
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Yeh, its just luck. But everytime an NM pops, it increases the % chance of it popping again. Sorry you had no luck >< Had a few runs like that myself.
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By Leviathan.Pimpchan 2011-01-20 05:13:59
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Bismarck.Tuvae said:
But everytime an NM pops, it increases the % chance of it popping again.

¿
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By Bismarck.Tuvae 2011-01-20 05:16:49
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Leviathan.Pimpchan said:
Bismarck.Tuvae said:
But everytime an NM pops, it increases the % chance of it popping again.
¿

If it pops, the chances of it popping again increase and increase further each time it pops again. Which is why you can see like 10+ pop in 1 rampart, or none at all lol.
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By Leviathan.Pimpchan 2011-01-20 05:27:35
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No
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By Odin.Blazza 2011-01-20 06:00:49
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There's some truth to what Tuvae says, kinda. I think it's more like some ramparts can pop NMs, while some can't. Think of it like a VNM with shadow vs a VNM without a shadow, you have no idea which it's going to be until you're already fighting it. One thing that I definitely believe though, is that if the rampart hasn't popped an NM by the time it reaches 50%, it's not going to. Once we heard this theory, we did a lot of testing on it, and sure enough, every single time it reached 50% without popping an NM, that was it.

So if you're after more than one rampart on the run, and it gets to 50% without popping an NM, move on.
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By Asura.Tezmania 2011-01-20 08:17:15
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4 weeks solid of bhaf remnants - the under 50% no nm pop rule is garbage!

It has clearly spawned NMs after this point and had not popped any prior to 50% many times. I even seen one pop @ 5% with zero spawns prior to it.

Luck is all you have on your side.

Yes there could be a secret to them like all other hidden secrets in the game but nothing ever gets reported as being 100% ever....
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