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 Phoenix.Kirana
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-01-15 01:47:42
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Has anyone done extensive testing on the rudra's storm dex mod? Looking at wiki, every other empy WS reports a 60% mod, while rudra's reports only a 30% dex mod. Something seems wrong with this if it's true, and I think SE needs to fix something!

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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-01-15 01:56:35
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It might only be 30%... but have you checked it's ftp at 100%? On a ws that dmg is modded by tp...
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By Sylph.Hitetsu 2011-01-15 02:02:10
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I have to ask, what exactly is "ftp"? All I know about it is "bigger number, better damage" >_>;
 
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-01-15 02:13:49
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Sylph.Hitetsu said:
I have to ask, what exactly is "ftp"? All I know about it is "bigger number, better damage" >_>;
It's the tp multiplier on ws. When a ws says dmg varies with tp this is what is changing. When a ws says it does quadruple dmg or whatever it's this that is being bigger usually.

Effectively speaking melee hits (and hits after the first on a ws including offhand hits) all have ftps of 1.0

This combined with stat mods are what make ws do different dmg than melee hits
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-01-15 02:33:48
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Maybe I'll go rudra some bunnies tonight and post my results...

it just sucks getting TP when everything dies in 1 hit
 
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By Lakshmi.Jaguarx 2011-01-15 03:03:12
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Sylph.Hitetsu said:
I have to ask, what exactly is "ftp"?

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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-01-15 03:12:20
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What doesn't make sense to me is that the WS description says "Triple Damage" but the reported 100% ftp is 4.5. Could this be an error in testing? perhaps the actual ftp is 3.0 and the dex mod is 60%?
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-01-15 03:19:15
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Phoenix.Kirana said:
What doesn't make sense to me is that the WS description says "Triple Damage" but the reported 100% ftp is 4.5. Could this be an error in testing? perhaps the actual ftp is 3.0 and the dex mod is 60%?
The differences would be very easy to see. Triple is just a good way of saying alot. Slug shot says quadruple but has 5.0. Fudo says double but is 3.65ish. Hell viper bite says double dmg and it's ftp is only 1.0 (it actually instead raises your att but meh)

The only real way you'd make the mistake you are talking about is if you really sucked at testing and didn't vary the pertinent stat at all and basically just started making up numbers lol
 
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-01-18 17:14:14
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Looks like the wiki page was recently changed...
Dex mod is now reported as 60%, and fTP at 100% 3.25
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-01-18 17:23:50
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Wow they messed up ftp? That is like the easiest thing to test lol
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By Shiva.Khimaira 2011-01-18 17:25:26
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Phoenix.Kirana said:
Maybe I'll go rudra some bunnies tonight and post my results...

it just sucks getting TP when everything dies in 1 hit

/SAM and get a SCH to regain you when Meditate is down (A lot)
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-01-18 17:29:29
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You should be /sam to test anyways since dmg is modded by tp... unless you care to go to 300% each time or set up your store tp to go to exactly 100% for ease of math
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By Asura.Yunalaysca 2011-01-18 17:31:10
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or dnc with +2 hands for a 100tp reverse
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-01-18 18:16:55
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Asura.Yunalaysca said:
or dnc with +2 hands for a 100tp reverse

Sadly my dnc is only 66, working on it though. Anyways, the current reported information on wiki sounds much more reasonable, and I don't see much need for me to test it.
 
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