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 Phoenix.Kirana
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-01-14 06:28:39
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This is what I'm currently using for rudra's storm, the only obvious upgrade I see is Heca +1 legs. Is there anything that I'm missing?
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2011-01-14 06:50:40
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Not sure if the attack is needed, but if not, Matre Braggzen.
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By Asura.Buddhsie 2011-01-14 06:52:56
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Matre Braggzen is the most overrated piece of gear in the game, I wouldn't use it for anything.
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-01-14 07:02:51
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I'd use heca NQ or +1 over matre because of the +20 attack. I just need to get another damn abjuration somehow, haha
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2011-01-14 18:23:56
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Asura.Buddhsie said:
Matre Braggzen is the most overrated piece of gear in the game, I wouldn't use it for anything.
I have Tumbler Trunks for DNC, but I also have the easy option of getting Matre Braggzen if I wanted to. Should I get them for Evisceration?
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By Asura.Yunalaysca 2011-01-27 17:05:58
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digging this back up, would you still use shadow gorget/belt over agayasa and uhhhhhh chuchulains or anquinious?
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-01-27 17:09:53
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Asura.Yunalaysca said:
digging this back up, would you still use shadow gorget/belt over agayasa and uhhhhhh chuchulains or anquinious?
At 100% on dnc sure except maybe the double attack belt. On thf might go more with stat/att if you have higher triple attack rates. Or ya know was using AC
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By Asura.Yunalaysca 2011-01-27 17:11:29
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yeah for dnc, anquinious wouldnt belt shadow belt?
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-01-27 17:13:52
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comparing attack to anything else is really situational and harder to do... probably would especially since you aren't critting and all. The big question is will rudra's help your dps enough for it to beat the loss of dmg from not using evisceration for dnc?
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By Asura.Yunalaysca 2011-01-27 17:19:08
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ah but with the af3 body rudra can now crit on dnc
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-01-27 17:25:04
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Asura.Yunalaysca said:
ah but with the af3 body rudra can now crit on dnc
Verification needed!!! Also does it all the whole ws to crit or just the forced double attack part?
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By Asura.Yunalaysca 2011-01-27 17:30:58
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ideally it's a 2hit ws to begin with, so it crits the main hit and double attack from the main hand.

also here you go:

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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-01-27 17:34:53
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Hmmm not bad... maybe I'll make one
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-01-27 17:40:13
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That makes me want to finish my dancer now. Glad to see rudra's isn't only good on thf.

edit: fixed typo
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By Ramuh.Kyamiiux 2011-01-27 18:04:26
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Phoenix.Kirana said:
That makes me want to finish my dancer now. Glad to see rudra's isn't on good on thf.

How could THF not do more damage?
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By Bismarck.Ihina 2011-01-27 18:08:22
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I believe that was a typo and he meant "Glad to see rudra's isn't only good on thf.'
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-01-27 18:08:39
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Ramuh.Kyamiiux said:
Phoenix.Kirana said:
That makes me want to finish my dancer now. Glad to see rudra's isn't on good on thf.
How could THF not do more damage?
I think he meant only good on thf... And well if the thf is tanking/soloing and there is no one with TA it's not going to crit. And well based on the ftp a 2 hit rudras that doesn't crit is probably inferior to a 6 hit evisceration that is critting alot



And from what yuna is saying dnc can make it crit and double attack whenever she wants. For that matter double attack could end up adding as much dmg as SA/TA dex/agi bonuses anyways lol
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By Ramuh.Kyamiiux 2011-01-27 18:11:58
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
Ramuh.Kyamiiux said:
Phoenix.Kirana said:
That makes me want to finish my dancer now. Glad to see rudra's isn't on good on thf.
How could THF not do more damage?
I think he meant only good on thf... And well if the thf is tanking/soloing and there is no one with TA it's not going to crit. And well based on the ftp a 2 hit rudras that doesn't crit is probably inferior to a 6 hit evisceration that is critting alot



And from what yuna is saying dnc can make it crit and double attack whenever she wants. For that matter double attack could end up adding as much dmg as SA/TA dex/agi bonuses anyways lol

DNC is pretty boss. Forced DA...

*edit More often than Assassin's charge
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-01-27 18:15:04
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Yeah I've come to the conclusion that SE hates thfs DDing and thinks they are TH *** that can play with hate only
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-01-27 18:35:26
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What is the timer like on that dnc force crit flourish? Wiki says it's a 2:00 recast, which would make it usable only once every 6 WS or so.
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By Ramuh.Kyamiiux 2011-01-27 19:09:19
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Phoenix.Kirana said:
What is the timer like on that dnc force crit flourish? Wiki says it's a 2:00 recast, which would make it usable only once every 6 WS or so.

Striking flourish (DA) is a 2:00 recast and Climactic flourish (crits) is 1:30 recast allowing you to keep WS damage pretty high quite often. It's not 5 min recast like most abilities.
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By Ragnarok.Flippant 2011-01-27 19:12:16
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Wouldn't bother with gorget/belt if you're forcing double attack. Three hits, it'd be 5.25 collective fTP, another .1 is barely even 2% more to WS damage. And if crit on the double attack hits, it'd really be less. Honestly not sure if it's worth it without DA, but I'd lean towards Love Torque/Cuchulain's Belt.

And uh..Climactic and Striking are the same JA group (Flourish III). Their timers are linked. Also, Climactic doesn't work on WS that don't naturally crit (unless that's what Charis Tiara does, haven't heard any info on it).
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-01-27 19:15:29
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-01-27 19:31:44
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Bahamut.Dasva said:
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-01-27 22:46:01
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Striking Flourish is worse than Sneak Attack and you can use it less than half as often, but it does let the first hit and one DA potentially crit. I think my current max with Rudra's is around 6.6k. It is mostly limited by luck and monster HP.
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By Asura.Yunalaysca 2011-01-28 02:12:16
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as for back piece you think cavaros is better than atheling? since you can only have 42% crit dmg for rudra (cant wear loki)
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-01-28 02:13:38
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Asura.Yunalaysca said:
as for back piece you think cavaros is better than atheling? since you can only have 42% crit dmg for rudra (cant wear loki)
Very doubtful. Comes out to only a 2% increase in dmg... compared to double attack and 20att...
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By Asura.Yunalaysca 2011-01-28 02:16:18
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2? i thought it was 3
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-01-28 02:17:30
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Asura.Yunalaysca said:
2? i thought it was 3
It was but you already have +42% so it's only a 2% increase in dmg
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By Asura.Yunalaysca 2011-01-28 02:20:04
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is there a curve for crit dmg that i wasnt aware of?
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