Dual Wield Cap @45 ?!

I recently got my Iga Mimikazari.

I thought be able to reach DW 50 but
after some fast test based on TP reward
it seems we have a DW cap @45.

I can't make more test atm but will do soon.

Can someone, please, confirm am wrong ?

You're wrong. Overall Delay- caps at 80% or so.

Mimikizari is 3% DW, not 5%.

Thx for answering yet I don't get it.

Ok for overall delay reduced but I was speaking about DW direct cap.

My 1st test was done this way :
One hit kill Bunnies in Ronfaure, 10 times, reads the TP.
Unequip-equip katana to TP0 when changing DW geears.
Sekka+1/Sekka+1 or delay 201/201.

So entirely Naked but 2 mentioned Katanas (DW35), I expected 45 and got 45.
With Chainmail+1 only (DW40) I expected 45 and got 45.
With Chainmail+1 and Suppa (DW45) I expected 44 and got 44.
With Chainmail+1 Iga Mimi and Suppa (DW48?)
I expected 43 (if Mimi is 2-3-4 or 5% DW) and got 44.

2 main explanations how far I get the formula
Or Iga Mimi is 1%, which I hope not, and Nightfyre confirmed said is not.
Or a Cap @45 DW ? why I asked.

Sorry to insist about it but :
1/ Even happy with correct info I like to understand when possible.
2/ There is a direct impact on TP gears set according to result.

afaik there is no cap on dual wield itself, i run around on dnc with 55% dual wield and the tp drop is noticeable.

55% as a DNC is impressive and Grats for that.
It means you have almost all possible gears with DW+ for DNC, as max atm is 60% with Body AF3+2

I must certainly miss some detail in maths and would enjoy some explanation on numbers.

Thanks for the info Yunalaysca.

Wait wat? You sure? 3% and not 5% like Suppa?
Sigh, was to be expected I guess.
But then again, not like I have a choice so it's all good for me.

Actually duel weild is so easy to come by on DNC nowday.

It's 2-3% as tested by Failure, and given precedent in Mirke Wardecors I'm assuming 3%. Still better than Brutal if you have access to both Suppa and Iga (barring having enough haste to reach delay reduction cap without it), and given how useless non-Suppa DM earrings are these days there's little reason not to.

45% DW as a cap would be a very odd choice. I don't have Iga Mimikazari yet, but when I get it I'll try to replicate your findings.

I don't think it caps at 45.
I just did a little testing while camping bugbear strongman. Luckily I have a non DW dagger with the same delay as auric for testing :)

DNC90/NIN45

Daggers: Kila+2 (Delay 190) + Renegade (Delay 201)
***DW+0*** (Total: 30)
TP per attack round: 11

Daggers: Kila+2 (Delay 190) + Auric Dagger (Delay201)
***DW+5*** (Total: 35)
TP per attack round: 10.5 < x < 11 (10.75?)

Daggers: Kila+2 (Delay 190) + Auric Dagger (Delay201)
+ Charis Necklace
***DW+10*** (Total: 40)
TP per attack round: 10.5

Daggers: Kila + 2 (Delay 190) + Auric Dagger (Delay 201)
+Charis Necklace + Suppanomimi
***DW+15*** (Total: 45)
TP per attack round: 10.33

Daggers: Kila +2 (Delay 190) + Auric Dagger (Delay 201)
+ Charis Necklace + Suppanomimi + Charis Casaque +2
***DW+25** (Total: 55)
TP per attack round: ~10.1?


I couldn't really get exact TP per round due to the game not showing decimals and having limited attack rounds in oldton movalpolos where I happen to be.

Either way, the TP drop is apparent with each DW enhancing piece I put on.

Hey Night, can you link me to the test results (or c/p would be even better since chances are I won't be able to access it at work). Was just looking at this thread again and got curious since JP testing was showing <2% and just looking at all the craptastic other job earrings, 3% doesn't seem that likely.

So, reading your posts, everyone seems to confirm there is no cap for DW.
It let only the option 2 sadly : earring DW is 1% .
And it must be thought as an Eva+5 with a slight bonus for eva set.
Good eva earring no ?
Unless you consider a +1% DW (with no impact on TP) is nice for your own set.
Personnaly I find it really deceiptive for a MAIN NIN LEVEL 90 GEAR.
About non +5% DW, there was already indeed 3% and even 1% before but never for a NIN only gear. 1% is as high as a level 30 gear for nin as a sub job <.<
And for info max possible DW for DNC is 60 and NIN is 61!

All of the earrings are really shitty.
They look similar to AF3+0, which makes me wonder if they'll be upgradeable in the future.

Failure didn't post methodology since it's a fairly simple and obvious test, but they're about as reliable as it gets for XI math. It's possible it's 1% despite how stupidly low that is. Sent a PM regarding the information in this thread, if they don't post here I'll report back once I get a response.

Some of them seem useful to me, but the ones that aren't tend to be really, really terrible.

Failure says 1% also fits their data, so given the information here I guess it's 1%... bleh.

1% sounds about right for the LV90 earrings.

Meh, keeps getting worse. Guess I only have myself to blame for having been a fool and expecting anything better than that.

In this light, is it still worth using over other options? Like, uhm, I dunno, Hollow Earring or an attack earring?

As long as it doesn't lower your TP/hit it should be better than Aesir or Centaurus, loses vs acc earring if hitrate uncapped though.

Better than Brutal though? Hell no.

Brutal ain't an option for me anyway, I mean removing it ain't an option, since I don't own a Suppanomimi.

Think I'm gonna stick with this lolearring anyway, especially while soloing. That +5 eva is a good placebo.

it is actually 1% dual wield

Really?

That's what wiki says for what its worth... and given the random nature of the strength of the new accessories; ranging from pretty nice to I wouldn't lot even if I could npc it later, I wouldn't doubt it's that crappy

Was more towards the fact that later in this very thread I acknowledged that it's 1%.

Ah I see. The eevee confused me

Just as planned...