Caladbolg Vs. Masamune

Which one of the two is better?

What Caladbolg has over Masamune:
Lower delay
Higher base damage
TripleDMG WS instead of double
Better fTP WS (same as above)

What Masamune has over Caladbolg:
5-hit
Favorable WS mod

inb4 the correct answer is to get Ukonvasara/Kannagi/Turkey Legs.

Blast! Foiled again!

Hvergelmir

You can combine the last two points on Caladbolg since they're discussing the same thing. I still say if both jobs have to /NIN then Masamune wins easily, but DRK/SAM vs SAM/WAR would be closer. I'd still favor SAM though given their greater capacity to capitalize on atmas. If we remove Abyssea from the equation, I believe we also remove DRK's 6-hit, again favoring SAM. pDIF also is a factor since DRK naturally has much higher attack.

Pretty much. 6-hitting Caladbolg w/o VV requires sacrificing haste/STR/ATK gear which is relevant outside abyssea (fingers crossed for the march update).

Caladbolg is the better Weapon.

Samurai is the better Job.

Both suck, get a Claustrum.

/thread

Good thing DRK isn't a DPS job. Something something Hagun.

(DRK isn't the only job on Caladbolg)


Nah, this was the /thread.

EDIT: Not really sure why STR is a favorable mod inside Abyssea since you're fSTR capped after cruor buffs and Furtherances. DRK has plenty of VIT choices.

Because these jobs usually use VV, and that's +50 STR which does alot more for Fudo?

Isn't it because, fSTR may be capped but stat mods still aren't?

I'm a math noob, I honestly don't know..

But... Mjollnir > All

My point was VV is little more than a WSC atma, you could easily take a VIT atma or Sundering Blow instead of VV and tweak your x-hit, or just roll around RR/VV/Sundering Blow.

Either way saying STR is a better mod than VIT in a zone where fSTR is always capped seems silly to me.

If you cant see why its better to use VV than a VIT+50 atma idk.. :p
Using an atma purely for WS mods is kinda lame

Edit: this post were supposed to be a edit in my previous one* -_-
fail

Stacking STR on a weaponskill with no STR mod is uesless once fSTR is capped. fSTR is capped after cruor buffs and Furtherance abyssites. Thusly, VV's only purpose is to lower your x-hit and to help weaponskills with STR mods.

I doubt the 50 VIT you'd get from something like Mounted Champion outweighs the 4% haste you'd have to drop to keep a six hit without VV (and the double attack everyone seems to swoon over), but I think a lot of people overestimate what VV is doing for them.

Edit: I'm sort of wondering why this was asked here instead of BG, but either way; Caladbolg > Masamune, SAM > DRK/PLD (yeah, PLD is on Caladbolg).