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 Ramuh.Vinvv
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-12-08 12:17:54
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Asura.Bartimaeus said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Nah, people can use their own imagination.

Oranges!.


Um... straws out of beverages next to a pool at a hotel.


Skittles


I'll keep thinking and get back to you.
Who is he calling people?!
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-12-08 12:18:15
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Asura.Bartimaeus said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Nah, people can use their own imagination.

Oranges!.


Um... straws out of beverages next to a pool at a hotel.


Skittles


I'll keep thinking and get back to you.

That's the kind of gusto I like.
 
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By Ramuh.Vinvv 2010-12-08 12:44:38
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Asura.Bartimaeus said:
Well, statistically even before they recently announced the possibility of BILLIONS of earth-like planets there should be life out there.

Personally I believe the universe is made up of multiverses that connect as Michio Kaku said, like soap bubbles. So you can't actually reach the end as it expands infinitely.

I'm more or less waiting for ACTUAL microbial life to be discovered anywhere, just so that the "seal is broken" on that whole debate but I doubt we'll find intelligent life within the next 200 years.




And by that time we'll of blown ourselves up, or consumed every natural resource without successfully colonizing Mars or some other planet like we should be doing.


:DDD
exploding wheel of fortune?
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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2010-12-08 13:01:45
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
I want Mars to be terraformed.
I'ma sacrifice you to the reavers. :3
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By Caitsith.Zefiris 2010-12-08 13:36:56
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I found this entertaining. XD
 
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-12-08 15:43:56
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Chances are better than not, we're not alone out there. The sheer expanse of the universe, and the fact we're discovering planets (some of them very earth-like) at the rate of several dozen a year now, makes it statistically likely. We're finding the buggers everywhere we look.

That being said, there's Fermi's Paradox, more easily summarized as: "Well then, where the hell is everyone?"

It's vanishingly unlikely that aliens have every visited our insignificant little planet, let alone with the only apparent goal of anally raping drunk farmers in the middle of the night.

But the alternate explanation, however more likely, isn't very satisfying either: which is that the scale of the universe is so vast, and the speed of light so inviolably slow by comparison, that most intelligent life simply doesn't have a very good chance of ever detecting one another, let alone ever meeting.
well ***, i guess we only have each other and yet we're on our way to self destruction.

But yes very unlikely they meet, it would be... like the butterfly effect, meeting another race, would cause extreme chaos at the other side

lol that planet is on libra...
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-12-08 15:50:18
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Lakshmi.Jaerik said:


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Life could thrive on planets very different from ours for all we know.
Just the other day, NASA evidently discovered a life form that has DNA constructed from a substance we were absolutely sure must be toxic to all forms of life anywhere. Goes to show that our known definitions of life might be totally wrong.


i agree, people think that life can only exist in the ways we know it..That life can only be like us.

Why can't life survive in different forms? Different aspects. After all, distance makes a big difference in probabilities. If we were created, who's to say theres not others who think, feel, live. On their own way. outside of our little bubble.

I am ashamed to see that people still live in this self centered small bubble. 'no life out there' 'life can only exist in a planet like ours'

etc etc...ETC.

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By Asura.Alymorel 2010-12-08 16:18:42
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Asura.Bartimaeus said:
And by that time we'll of blown ourselves up, or consumed every natural resource without successfully colonizing Mars or some other planet like we should be doing.


:DDD

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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2010-12-08 16:18:58
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Caitsith.Zefiris said:


oh yeah?

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By Leviathan.Solanis 2010-12-08 16:20:50
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Phoenix.Darki said:
Lakshmi.Jaerik said:
Bismarck.Dracondria said:
Life could thrive on planets very different from ours for all we know.
Just the other day, NASA evidently discovered a life form that has DNA constructed from a substance we were absolutely sure must be toxic to all forms of life anywhere. Goes to show that our known definitions of life might be totally wrong.
i agree, people think that life can only exist in the ways we know it..That life can only be like us. Why can't life survive in different forms? Different aspects. After all, distance makes a big difference in probabilities. If we were created, who's to say theres not others who think, feel, live. On their own way. outside of our little bubble. I am ashamed to see that people still live in this self centered small bubble. 'no life out there' 'life can only exist in a planet like ours' etc etc...ETC.

you really, really need to chill out
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-12-08 21:25:17
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no i'm not charged wtf.
try stay on topic?
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By Phoenix.Cynric 2010-12-08 21:32:26
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The Universe- some information to help you live in it.

1 AREA: Infinite.
The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy offers this definition of the word "Infinite."

Infinite: Bigger than the biggest thing ever and then some. Much bigger than that in fact, really amazingly immense, a totally stunning size, real "Wow, that's big," time. Infinity is just so big that by comparison, bigness itself looks really titchy. Gigantic multiplied by colossal multiplied by staggeringly huge is the sort of concept we're trying to get across here.

2 IMPORTS: None.
It is impossible to import things into an infinite area, there being no outside to import things in from.

3 EXPORTS: None.
See Imports.

4 POPULATION: None.
It is known there are an infinite number of worlds, simply because there is an infinite amount of space for them to be in. However, not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore, there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, as the average population of all the planets in the Universe can be said to be zero. From this it follows that the population of the whole Universe is also zero, and that any people you may meet from time to time are merely the products of a deranged imagination.

5 MONETARY UNITS: None.
In fact there are three freely convertible currencies in the Galaxy, but none of them count. The Altairian Dollar has recently collapsed, the Flainian Pebble Bead is only exchangeable for other Flainian Pebble Beads, and the Triganic Pu has its own very special problems. Its exchange rate of eight Ningis to one Pu is simple enough, but since a Ningi is a triangular rubber coin six thousand eight hundred miles long on each side, no one has ever collected enough to own one Pu. Ningis are not negotiable currency, because the Galactibanks refuse to deal in fiddling small change. From this basic premise it is very simple to prove that the Galactibanks are also the product of a deranged imagination.

6 ART: None.
The function of art is to hold the mirror up to nature, and there simply isn't a mirror big enough- see point one.

7 SEX: None.
Well, in fact there is an awful lot of this, largely because of the total lack of money, trade, banks, art, or anything else that might keep all the nonexistent people of the Universe occupied.

However, it is not worth embarking on a long discussion of it now because it really is terribly complicated. For further information, see Guide Chapters seven, nine, ten, eleven, fourteen, sixteen, seventeen, nineteen, twenty-one to eighty-four inclusive, and in fact most of the rest of the Guide.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-12-08 21:40:00
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Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
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no i'm not charged wtf.
try stay on topic?
The topic is to discourage posting lol?
what..?
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-12-08 21:42:48
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I like this stuff, I believe in other life, though I'm not sure if it's visited us. I find it quite daunting that we know more about our solar system then our oceans though.
 
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2010-12-08 21:52:57
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
I like this stuff, I believe in other life, though I'm not sure if it's visited us. I find it quite daunting that we know more about our solar system then our oceans though.
When the reservoirs of natural gas dry up, more funding will be put into studying the ocean floors, for the frozen methane deposits that coat the deep sea floors. Research funds are generated by possible profit in most cases, until we need those gas deposits, you can probably expect the minuscule funding for deep sea research to continue.

EDIT: Won't be too long though, at the rate we're using it, we have less than a hundred years left in those reservoirs, in comparison the frozen deposits I mentioned could sustain us for thousands of years.
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By Lakshmi.Jaerik 2010-12-08 22:00:45
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We just haven't done enough to be noticed yet.

Our oldest civilizations are only 5,000 years old or so. We didn't start doing anything noticeable, like broadcasting radio into space, until 1920. That means even with the most powerful instruments that happened to be looking right at us, any potential alien civilization would have to be within 90 light years for it to have reached them.

There's only a few hundred stars within that distance. Compared to the billions of stars in just our galaxy alone, this is remarkably poor odds, even if both earth-like planets and extraterrestrial life is relatively abundant.

It's not far-fetched to imagine that any other intelligent civilization is in the same boat. Even if they had a million+ years head start on us, and haven't otherwise managed to blow themselves up, it's statistically unlikely any record of their existence would have reached us by now, given the scale of the cosmos.

Of course, if faster-than-light travel is possible, all bets are off. But if it is, we're back to Fermi's Paradox: given the age of the universe, and the fact there's billions of years for other life forms to have a head-start, where the hell is everyone?
 
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By Ragnarok.Blindphleb 2010-12-08 22:05:23
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Don't you guys watch movies?

The reason Fermi's Paradox exists at all is because of this:

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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-12-08 22:07:48
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As a mahussive stargate fan, I'm still under the belief that the pyramids are actually Goa'uld vessels.
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