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By Asura.Selennia 2010-09-09 00:38:27
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Was wondering if anyone had done any research on Goblin Rush yet? I just got 81 and tested it out a few times. Savage Blade > Goblin Rush makes Light. And it seems to be blunt damage, was outdamaging Hysteric Barrage on skeles. Also it was outdamaging Disseverment on bunnies.
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-09-09 01:00:36
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Wow, that's some good news :o
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By Asura.Selennia 2010-09-09 01:02:19
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Yeah, I was quite impressed, wasn't a big sampling and was on EPs(OPed to Teriggan to get my 1 exp) But every cast it was outdamaging Disseverment/Hysteric Barrage, and closes light without having to go to a str/vit/def set.
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By Phoenix.Esaias 2010-09-09 01:12:27
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woot a 3 hit!

not as much to miss and less tp per hit fed to mob
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-09 01:14:35
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Hmmm sounds like win.
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By Cerberus.Berkley 2010-09-11 12:40:39
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yes its def a win win spell .. was in Abyssea La theine killing the bees doing CA w/200TP getting 1200ish Goblin Rush with matching Light SC

edit: still have yet to even try it with Efflux but im wondering if it will boost it just as much as CA does
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By Bismarck.Kyaaadaa 2010-09-11 12:43:18
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(Puts it up with the high three) you belong on this shelf my friend.
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By Alexander.Ultrarichard 2010-09-11 13:00:00
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Mine is odd. I'm not sure if it's the same for others.. without CA, goblin only does maybe 900 (lizards in cape)
disseverment for 1.1 on the same lizard.. but then with CA first goblin rush did 1600 while disseverment only 1300~

same gear and pretty much the same mob. very weird.
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By Midgardsormr.Renala 2010-09-11 13:04:22
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Alexander.Ultrarichard said:
Mine is odd. I'm not sure if it's the same for others.. without CA, goblin only does maybe 900 (lizards in cape)
disseverment for 1.1 on the same lizard.. but then with CA first goblin rush did 1600 while disseverment only 1300~

same gear and pretty much the same mob. very weird.


The question is, is that constant? If it was used like, one or 5 times, Thats not accurate enough. Misses happen, even if one spell is more hits then the other(Diss is like, 5? 6? Idk, my blu is 30 >.>). Try it 100 times for more accurate results? I dun know what else to say ^^;
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By Alexander.Ultrarichard 2010-09-11 13:33:50
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it happened throughout a whole two FoV pages, not same numbers, but same general theme, rush doing less without CA but more with. Just thought it was rather odd, never seen it before between other spells, one spell is normal always better than the other on normal mobs (not piercing weak nshit).
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By Fenrir.Deno 2010-09-11 13:43:42
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I got the same thing, Goblin rush doing more with CA but less without, not sure why :/
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By Siren.Delirium 2010-09-11 13:53:24
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Higher stat mods would be my assumption.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-09-11 13:56:02
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Can't say for sure since we don't know WSC for the new spells yet, but that would suggest that it has stronger mods than Disseverment. More hits and thus essentially higher fTP would give Disseverment the edge outside of CA, but doubling WSC with CA would let Goblin Rush pull ahead.
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By Alexander.Ultrarichard 2010-09-11 17:43:59
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Could be it. My gear's not particually good and I don't have alot to switch in to test or w/e.

Also, all lizards take 0 damage from final sting >.> Tried 4 different lizards all 0 damage :(
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kyrial 2010-09-11 17:57:29
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Alexander.Ultrarichard said:
Could be it. My gear's not particually good and I don't have alot to switch in to test or w/e.

Also, all lizards take 0 damage from final sting >.> Tried 4 different lizards all 0 damage :(
Well, Lizards > Vermin, but 0 damage does seem a bit extreme.
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By Alexander.Ultrarichard 2010-09-11 18:06:49
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that's what i thought but nope, 0 damage in cape terrigan, 0 damage in temenos, 0 damage in dunes.. 0 damage in kuftal tunnel... and still takes your hp ><
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By Asura.Selennia 2010-09-11 18:39:22
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Alexander.Ultrarichard said:
Mine is odd. I'm not sure if it's the same for others.. without CA, goblin only does maybe 900 (lizards in cape)
disseverment for 1.1 on the same lizard.. but then with CA first goblin rush did 1600 while disseverment only 1300~

same gear and pretty much the same mob. very weird.
That is odd because I was getting around 1.4-1.5k on lizzies with goblin rush, and 1.3k disseverment without CA.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-09-11 18:42:33
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Alexander.Ultrarichard said:
Could be it. My gear's not particually good and I don't have alot to switch in to test or w/e.

Also, all lizards take 0 damage from final sting >.> Tried 4 different lizards all 0 damage :(
Speaking of which, as a result Goblin Rush should surpass Disseverment with enough of the proper mods. Some improvements to your gear might be enough to tilt it and I'd bet good gear + enhanced cruor buffs + maybe an atma would favor Goblin Rush. I honestly don't recall how the two were performing, once I hit 85 I swapped out Disseverment and never looked back.

Interesting information about Final Sting, that's a rather brutal monster correlation O_o
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By Alexander.Ultrarichard 2010-09-11 18:42:54
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Asura.Selennia said:
Alexander.Ultrarichard said:
Mine is odd. I'm not sure if it's the same for others.. without CA, goblin only does maybe 900 (lizards in cape)
disseverment for 1.1 on the same lizard.. but then with CA first goblin rush did 1600 while disseverment only 1300~

same gear and pretty much the same mob. very weird.
That is odd because I was getting around 1.4-1.5k on lizzies with goblin rush, and 1.3k disseverment without CA.

well my gear happens to be fairly terrible, and i'm not capped on skill nshit! ; ;
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By Shiva.Superdan 2010-09-12 09:29:08
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Huh, sounds odd. I havent tried on lizards.. But in general spell casting gear (Didnt have any HP gear on me during aby-pt) I was hitting around 900 on mandys. Still, very dissapointing since I could break 1k with Continumm easy.. And thats without buffs >.>
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2010-09-12 09:59:56
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Posted on the other (wrong) thread:
Has anyone tried Final Sting on plantoids?
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By Alexander.Ultrarichard 2010-09-12 10:02:25
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Phoenix.Fredjan said:
Posted on the other (wrong) thread:
Has anyone tried Final Sting on plantoids?
Shiva.Superdan said:
900 on mandys.
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By Siren.Delirium 2010-09-12 10:10:40
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well i KNOW it doesnt help us with Darkness but lolSwift Blade.....

OR /sam Sekkanoki Vertical Cleave > Quad Cont...

oh wait that wouldnt work either
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