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Most of you will be glad to know the bots are down (possibly gone)
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 Siren.Clinpachi
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2009-09-25 17:18:09
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Word on the street is FFXIApp and NASA bots are completely shut down for the time being.

http://www.bluegartrls.com/forum/82218-bot-wars-ending.html

A very interesting read, apparently it's a copyright issue from what i can tell.

http://www.ffxi-app.com/ Has completely blurred out the FFXI related material as well as the name FFXI, at first i thought the site was hacked but after figuring out the story this looks pretty drama-awesome.

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iifuzz (3:27:55 PM): u use app much for ffxi?
Rangler33 (3:28:04 PM): a bit
iifuzz (3:28:13 PM): hmm
iifuzz (3:28:21 PM): might have to not use it at all soon!
Rangler33 (3:28:49 PM): whys that ;o
Rangler33 (3:28:51 PM): oh
Rangler33 (3:29:01 PM): to play aion? lol
iifuzz (3:29:09 PM): well
iifuzz (3:29:10 PM): kinda
iifuzz (3:29:16 PM): maury might be in trouble with the law
iifuzz (3:29:22 PM): u know any good lawyers? lol
Rangler33 (3:29:26 PM): D:
Rangler33 (3:29:36 PM): why might he be in trouble?
iifuzz (3:30:26 PM): maury got a call from the guy who does his taxes
iifuzz (3:30:41 PM): and said he got a letter from CA... something about infringement
iifuzz (3:30:47 PM): im not too sure, i didnt listen to it
iifuzz (3:30:58 PM): thinkin maybe se trying to scare him
Rangler33 (3:31:38 PM):
Rangler33 (3:32:05 PM): i bet they're just trying to scare him
iifuzz (3:32:22 PM): i hope so
iifuzz (3:32:31 PM): i didnt think he was doing anything wrong
Rangler33 (3:32:45 PM): yea idk what they'd be busting him for
Rangler33 (3:32:52 PM): lol
iifuzz (3:33:01 PM): making third pt programs isnt against the tos, is it?
iifuzz (3:33:07 PM): only using them i thought
Rangler33 (3:33:14 PM): im not sure
Rangler33 (3:33:18 PM): i think making isn't against the tos
Rangler33 (3:33:23 PM): but tbh i was never bored enough to read it
iifuzz (3:34:44 PM): depending on how this legal thing works out, if it is serious, maury might have to shut app down
Rangler33 (3:34:58 PM): D:
Rangler33 (3:35:13 PM): would he still host the servers for nasa or would those ppl be SoL too?
iifuzz (3:36:04 PM): he should still be able to host nasa
iifuzz (3:36:15 PM): he doesnt advertise that so its a seperate entitiy


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 Pandemonium.Eternaltriumph
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By Pandemonium.Eternaltriumph 2009-09-25 17:20:28
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If NASA shuts down, I'll laugh a little to myself. Not because I do/did end game, or really because it affects me. But because dumbasses who spent thousands of dollars on a bot program just got money-shot owned.
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By Leviathan.Castonell 2009-09-25 17:21:55
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yep, who knows what will happen now. sicking news to some im sure...
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By Asura.Malekith 2009-09-25 17:26:34
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Gone baby gone... it's a time warp and we're all back in 2004... wow....
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2009-09-25 17:27:09
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i was just going to post about this

beaten to it

this news is pretty huge
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By Pandemonium.Eternaltriumph 2009-09-25 17:27:45
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Wait, so you mean people are actually going to have to HIT that Flash, Stun, Dia and Provoke macro?! You're fucking kidding, that's too much work!
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2009-09-25 17:28:29
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I get the feeling FFACE is about to become a lot more popular
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By Seraph.Caiyuo 2009-09-25 17:34:12
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I think it's pretty fucking great. There's always a chance that the people involved are just fucking with everyone for whatever reason, but if not I'd say anyone who bought NASA is hilariously fucked. Dunno if they'd have any case for a refund from the developer, but if not that guy should really watch his ***. lol

Outside of that, as far as I know plenty of people write their own bots by starting out on fishing and building from there, so I wouldn't say HNM is "safe again" or anything.
 Siren.Clinpachi
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2009-09-25 17:35:11
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Yeah this is really monumental, whether you use the app/nasa or not... it effects every player. Welcome back to 2004 when everything was legit guys XD
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-09-25 17:41:21
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The only thing this changes is the name on the bot and who wrote it. NASA and FFXIAPP were the biggest and most sophisticated setups, but there are others people will use if Maury is shut down.
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2009-09-25 17:43:33
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Nightfyre said:
The only thing this changes is the name on the bot and who wrote it. NASA and FFXIAPP were the biggest and most sophisticated setups, but there are others people will use if Maury is shut down.


This is true but it was also the easiest and most accessible, i can promise nearly 70% of the botting population has just been put on hold lol.
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By Kujata.Akeda 2009-09-25 17:43:59
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OMG people might actually have to PLAY the game like :O

I hope SE sues his *** to the wall.
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By Pandemonium.Bartimaeus 2009-09-25 17:44:37
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Totalllllly worth the money.

I lol'd.
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By Bahamut.Fyyvoaa 2009-09-25 17:51:25
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hahah gogo HNM drama!
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2009-09-25 17:51:41
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Clinpachi said:
Nightfyre said:
The only thing this changes is the name on the bot and who wrote it. NASA and FFXIAPP were the biggest and most sophisticated setups, but there are others people will use if Maury is shut down.


This is true but it was also the easiest and most accessible, i can promise nearly 70% of the botting population has just been put on hold lol.

Oh I know the short-term effects are going to be huge and not a little lulzy, just saying nothing's going to change in the long run.
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2009-09-25 17:53:59
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Nightfyre said:
Clinpachi said:
Nightfyre said:
The only thing this changes is the name on the bot and who wrote it. NASA and FFXIAPP were the biggest and most sophisticated setups, but there are others people will use if Maury is shut down.


This is true but it was also the easiest and most accessible, i can promise nearly 70% of the botting population has just been put on hold lol.

Oh I know the short-term effects are going to be huge and not a little lulzy, just saying nothing's going to change in the long run.


Oh well that is a given, i bet there is someone who will crack the app and make it usable again for the most part... just have to update the memlocs manually.

It's great to watch BG forum go up in a blaze of Q_Q glory XD
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2009-09-25 17:55:54
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Epic.
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By Seraph.Caiyuo 2009-09-25 17:56:36
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In lieu of the fishbot points, a friend just raised a good point about the possible effect on sushi prices as well. How many people are really fishing that *** up legitimately? lol
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2009-09-25 17:58:07
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Clinpachi said:

Oh well that is a given, i bet there is someone who will crack the app and make it usable again for the most part... just have to update the memlocs manually.

It's great to watch BG forum go up in a blaze of Q_Q glory XD


Sure, they'll crack it for now, but app's strength was that iifuzz kept updating it whenever SE did maintenence. As soon as the memlocs change, the cracked app will be nonfunctional.
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By Phoenix.Baelorn 2009-09-25 17:58:09
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You guys act like this was the only bot. There are hundreds more that are just less popular. All this means is that new bots will rise to take the place of app/NASA.

It's like the RIAA thinking that closing down one piracy site will stop all piracy.
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By Cerberus.Katarzyna 2009-09-25 17:58:43
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All I can say is....

FUCK YEA!

Now hopefully SE will use that list to ban all those fuckers (doubtful, but one can hope).

Botting in an MMO is like playing a single player game with god mode on. In the end, you suck.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2009-09-25 17:58:43
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Caiyuo said:
In lieu of the fishbot points, a friend just raised a good point about the possible effect on sushi prices as well. How many people are really fishing that *** up legitimately? lol


True. Look for all fish prices to go WAY up.
 Siren.Clinpachi
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2009-09-25 18:00:28
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Quite a few people are flocking to this URL

http://www.chaotic-realms.com/forums/

When you check out the development area it looks like an APP knock off. Quite a lot of similar features and functions it seems.

Not out of the woods yet as far as getting rid of all botters, however as i stated before this just impacted a *** load of people lol.
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By Pandemonium.Bartimaeus 2009-09-25 18:00:44
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There's hundreds of less updated, less functional, half-assed bots made, sure. For what it was worth, App was popular because it worked so well. If people had just as many options elsewhere, they wouldn't be getting app.

Either way, I give the dude a /clap. He made a killing off of the fucking idiots who paid out for it.
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By Pandemonium.Bartimaeus 2009-09-25 18:02:12
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Btw, at least when we made programs back in the day, we made them LOOK good. All these bots look like ***. :x
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2009-09-25 18:03:59
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Baelorn said:
You guys act like this was the only bot. There are hundreds more that are just less popular. All this means is that new bots will rise to take the place of app/NASA.

It's like the RIAA thinking that closing down one piracy site will stop all piracy.


That's beyond the point of this thread lol, there will always be ways to hack/steal/cheat/bot in every game every time no matter what....

...that's common knowledge.

It's still big news regardless.

I feel as if he got too spooked too fast regarding the lawsuit threat, but he did make 500,000$ some odd dollars during his time so i don't blame him for pulling out and bailing while he can.

He seems to have a good woman who probably helped come to the same consensus.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2009-09-25 18:04:37
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Bartimaeus said:
There's hundreds of less updated, less functional, half-assed bots made, sure. For what it was worth, App was popular because it worked so well. If people had just as many options elsewhere, they wouldn't be getting app.


This. There are lots of programs players can use to bot. App was what players could use to bot without fear of getting caught.
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By Phoenix.Baelorn 2009-09-25 18:06:44
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Bartimaeus said:
There's hundreds of less updated, less functional, half-assed bots made, sure. For what it was worth, App was popular because it worked so well. If people had just as many options elsewhere, they wouldn't be getting app.

Either way, I give the dude a /clap. He made a killing off of the fucking idiots who paid out for it.


Actually there's a bot that does 90% of what app does, is updated more, costs half as much and has a good number of old app-users on it already. I'm not going to buy it but pretending it doesn't exist is borderline-retarded.

EDIT: You can PM me for a link if you want.
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2009-09-25 18:06:47
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Bartimaeus said:
There's hundreds of less updated, less functional, half-assed bots made, sure. For what it was worth, App was popular because it worked so well. If people had just as many options elsewhere, they wouldn't be getting app.

Either way, I give the dude a /clap. He made a killing off of the fucking idiots who paid out for it.


...and from what i know, the problem is that half of them are unsupported/unfinished and i guess this maurey guy even accepted any tech support any time on the forums or AIM...

He pretty much led the way in terms of customer service to a FFXI tool. This is also why the windower is so popular, same service and community support.

I'm sure something will take it's place sometime soon. The link i posted above is already being stampeded by people looking for a new bot to cling to.
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2009-09-25 18:07:52
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Baelorn said:
Bartimaeus said:
There's hundreds of less updated, less functional, half-assed bots made, sure. For what it was worth, App was popular because it worked so well. If people had just as many options elsewhere, they wouldn't be getting app.

Either way, I give the dude a /clap. He made a killing off of the fucking idiots who paid out for it.


Actually there's a bot that does 90% of what app does, is updated more, costs half as much and has a good number of old app-users on it already. I'm not going to buy it but pretending it doesn't exist is borderline-retarded.


yeah i posted it, check a few posts back. The key term you used is 90% making it inferior and unimportant until now.
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